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I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".
In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would pass through the skin back into the body. Does reverse osmosis occur? If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of watching the boards shrink? Kim |
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![]() "KimDalkin" wrote in message ... I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales". In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would pass through the skin back into the body. Does reverse osmosis occur? If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of watching the boards shrink? Kim I suppose that 1. remaining cool and eliminating water loss in sweat and 2. breathing in more humid air and so reducing so-called insensible loss (the amount of moisture needed to humidify air, about 500 mls per day, in the nasopharynx before entering the lungs- the air that you breathe out is fully humidified which is why it mists up mirrors) would reduce water requirements. I doubt that water transfer through the skin would be much as the skin is designed to be water impermeable, otherwise we would leak all the time. Some disease states (with marked oedema) result in water oozing out through the skin but it is not common. Seawater is much more concentrated than plasma- from memory about 5-6 times- which is why one cannot drink seawater and survive. If it were only slightly different to plasma then drinking seawater to survive would be possible. Thus the Ancient Mariner was correct- Water, water everywhere, nor any drop to drink. Peter (Physician) |
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You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in
it. Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater enemas have been reported. "KimDalkin" wrote in message ... I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales". In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would pass through the skin back into the body. Does reverse osmosis occur? If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of watching the boards shrink? Kim |
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The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body. Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the loops of Henle) -- Dennis Gibbons dkgibbons at optonline dot net "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS DANGEROUS as drinking seawater. Idiot. geesus kriste!! From: "AC" Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in it. Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater enemas have been reported. "KimDalkin" wrote in message ... I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales". In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would pass through the skin back into the body. Does reverse osmosis occur? If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of watching the boards shrink? Kim |
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Perhaps you would like to quote the sources. For instance "The
administration of water by enema was probably a great help in speedily alleviating the dehydration suffered by us in times of drought. While we used water that was unpalatable, it was not undrinkable. I had wondered if it would be possible to use sea water in this way, but Lyn had strongly advised against it. Sea water taken by enema would cause as much damage as if it was taken by mouth." Dougal Robertson, 'Survive the Savage Sea'. Since he brought himself, his wife, three children and a family friend through 37 days adrift in a dinghy, his comments need to be taken seriously. -- "AC" wrote in message ... You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in it. Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater enemas have been reported. |
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You don't seem to understand how the lower bowel works. Try researching it,
and you will understand. The part of the bowel before the anus re-hydrates the body through re-absorbtion. It does this by several means to which "JAXAshby", for one - would not even have a clue. "Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message t... The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than the body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body. Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the loops of Henle) -- Dennis Gibbons dkgibbons at optonline dot net "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS DANGEROUS as drinking seawater. Idiot. geesus kriste!! From: "AC" Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in it. Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater enemas have been reported. "KimDalkin" wrote in message ... I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales". In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would pass through the skin back into the body. Does reverse osmosis occur? If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of watching the boards shrink? Kim |
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Osmosis (even if it did apply internally-human such as this) is not a simple
salt-water system, nor is that analysis applicable in this case. "Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message t... The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than the body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body. Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the loops of Henle) -- Dennis Gibbons dkgibbons at optonline dot net "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS DANGEROUS as drinking seawater. Idiot. geesus kriste!! From: "AC" Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in it. Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater enemas have been reported. "KimDalkin" wrote in message ... I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales". In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would pass through the skin back into the body. Does reverse osmosis occur? If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of watching the boards shrink? Kim |
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ignore AC and every last thing he says or has ever said. He is lost to this
universe. A lying sack of squat with no morals at all. He purposely trying to hurt people with his stew ped pronouncment that the tissues of the rectum are capable of filtering the salt from sal****er as compared to the tissues of the stomach lining which can not. Ignore AC and everything he says. he is a dilberate miscreant. Perhaps you would like to quote the sources. For instance "The administration of water by enema was probably a great help in speedily alleviating the dehydration suffered by us in times of drought. While we used water that was unpalatable, it was not undrinkable. I had wondered if it would be possible to use sea water in this way, but Lyn had strongly advised against it. Sea water taken by enema would cause as much damage as if it was taken by mouth." Dougal Robertson, 'Survive the Savage Sea'. Since he brought himself, his wife, three children and a family friend through 37 days adrift in a dinghy, his comments need to be taken seriously. -- "AC" wrote in message ... You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in it. Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater enemas have been reported. |
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yeah, AC was deliberately trying to hurt someone. what a squathead.
The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than the body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body. Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the loops of Henle) -- Dennis Gibbons dkgibbons at optonline dot net "JAXAshby" wrote in message ... KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS DANGEROUS as drinking seawater. Idiot. geesus kriste!! From: "AC" Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in it. Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater enemas have been reported. "KimDalkin" wrote in message ... I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales". In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely. I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would pass through the skin back into the body. Does reverse osmosis occur? If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of watching the boards shrink? Kim |
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