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KimDalkin August 28th 04 07:28 AM

Avoiding Dehydration by staying wet at sea?
 
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim



Peter HK August 28th 04 10:04 AM


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim



I suppose that
1. remaining cool and eliminating water loss in sweat and

2. breathing in more humid air and so reducing so-called insensible loss
(the amount of moisture needed to humidify air, about 500 mls per day, in
the nasopharynx before entering the lungs- the air that you breathe out is
fully humidified which is why it mists up mirrors)

would reduce water requirements.

I doubt that water transfer through the skin would be much as the skin is
designed to be water impermeable, otherwise we would leak all the time. Some
disease states (with marked oedema) result in water oozing out through the
skin but it is not common.

Seawater is much more concentrated than plasma- from memory about 5-6 times-
which is why one cannot drink seawater and survive. If it were only slightly
different to plasma then drinking seawater to survive would be possible.

Thus the Ancient Mariner was correct- Water, water everywhere, nor any drop
to drink.

Peter
(Physician)



AC August 29th 04 10:56 AM

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim





JAXAshby August 29th 04 12:49 PM

KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim













Dennis Gibbons August 29th 04 01:44 PM

The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim















Jeff Richards August 29th 04 11:29 PM

Perhaps you would like to quote the sources. For instance "The
administration of water by enema was probably a great help in speedily
alleviating the dehydration suffered by us in times of drought. While we
used water that was unpalatable, it was not undrinkable. I had wondered if
it would be possible to use sea water in this way, but Lyn had strongly
advised against it. Sea water taken by enema would cause as much damage as
if it was taken by mouth." Dougal Robertson, 'Survive the Savage Sea'. Since
he brought himself, his wife, three children and a family friend through 37
days adrift in a dinghy, his comments need to be taken seriously.
--

"AC" wrote in message
...
You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater
enemas have been reported.




AC August 30th 04 08:30 AM

You don't seem to understand how the lower bowel works. Try researching it,
and you will understand.

The part of the bowel before the anus re-hydrates the body through
re-absorbtion. It does this by several means to which "JAXAshby", for one -
would not even have a clue.


"Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message
t...
The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than

the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water

would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim

















AC August 30th 04 08:33 AM

Osmosis (even if it did apply internally-human such as this) is not a simple
salt-water system, nor is that analysis applicable in this case.


"Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message
t...
The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than

the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water

would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim

















JAXAshby August 30th 04 12:45 PM

ignore AC and every last thing he says or has ever said. He is lost to this
universe. A lying sack of squat with no morals at all. He purposely trying to
hurt people with his stew ped pronouncment that the tissues of the rectum are
capable of filtering the salt from sal****er as compared to the tissues of the
stomach lining which can not.

Ignore AC and everything he says. he is a dilberate miscreant.

Perhaps you would like to quote the sources. For instance "The
administration of water by enema was probably a great help in speedily
alleviating the dehydration suffered by us in times of drought. While we
used water that was unpalatable, it was not undrinkable. I had wondered if
it would be possible to use sea water in this way, but Lyn had strongly
advised against it. Sea water taken by enema would cause as much damage as
if it was taken by mouth." Dougal Robertson, 'Survive the Savage Sea'. Since
he brought himself, his wife, three children and a family friend through 37
days adrift in a dinghy, his comments need to be taken seriously.
--

"AC" wrote in message
...
You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater
enemas have been reported.












JAXAshby August 30th 04 12:46 PM

yeah, AC was deliberately trying to hurt someone. what a squathead.

The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim
























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