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I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim


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"KimDalkin" wrote in message
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I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim



I suppose that
1. remaining cool and eliminating water loss in sweat and

2. breathing in more humid air and so reducing so-called insensible loss
(the amount of moisture needed to humidify air, about 500 mls per day, in
the nasopharynx before entering the lungs- the air that you breathe out is
fully humidified which is why it mists up mirrors)

would reduce water requirements.

I doubt that water transfer through the skin would be much as the skin is
designed to be water impermeable, otherwise we would leak all the time. Some
disease states (with marked oedema) result in water oozing out through the
skin but it is not common.

Seawater is much more concentrated than plasma- from memory about 5-6 times-
which is why one cannot drink seawater and survive. If it were only slightly
different to plasma then drinking seawater to survive would be possible.

Thus the Ancient Mariner was correct- Water, water everywhere, nor any drop
to drink.

Peter
(Physician)


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You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
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I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim




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The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim
















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AC
 
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You don't seem to understand how the lower bowel works. Try researching it,
and you will understand.

The part of the bowel before the anus re-hydrates the body through
re-absorbtion. It does this by several means to which "JAXAshby", for one -
would not even have a clue.


"Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message
t...
The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than

the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water

would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim
















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JAXAshby
 
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AC, you lying sack of squat. knock it off. you are a moral miscreant
deliberating trying to harm people. go pull the wings off flies. better yet,
go pull a fake gun on a cop at night.

You don't seem to understand how the lower bowel works. Try researching it,
and you will understand.

The part of the bowel before the anus re-hydrates the body through
re-absorbtion. It does this by several means to which "JAXAshby", for one -
would not even have a clue.


"Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message
et...
The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than

the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water

would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim
























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Actually we just got through that section here in Nursing School.

The lower bowel ( the colon) does absorb excess water from food. However,
it is not by some magic process. There are not little guys in there pumping
water through the colon wall. It is by passive osmosis only. By definition
osmosis moves water from an area of lesser solute concentration to one of
greater concentration. Since sea water has a higher gradient of salt, water
would go in that direction no matter which end of the alimentary canal you
were using.
Clear enough?

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net
"AC" wrote in message
...
You don't seem to understand how the lower bowel works. Try researching

it,
and you will understand.

The part of the bowel before the anus re-hydrates the body through
re-absorbtion. It does this by several means to which "JAXAshby", for

one -
would not even have a clue.


"Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message
t...
The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than

the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in

the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST

AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than

sitting
in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in

sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it

entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible.

The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water.

If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water

would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead

of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim


















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Osmosis (even if it did apply internally-human such as this) is not a simple
salt-water system, nor is that analysis applicable in this case.


"Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message
t...
The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than

the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water

would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim
















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JAXAshby
 
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ac, you lying sack of squat KNOCK IT OFF!! go pull a fake gun on a cop at
night.

Osmosis (even if it did apply internally-human such as this) is not a simple
salt-water system, nor is that analysis applicable in this case.


"Dennis Gibbons" wrote in message
et...
The problem is that since sea water has a higher salt concentration than

the
body, if water could travel through the skin, it would LEAVE the body.
Water follows salt (let's hear it for countercurrent multiplication in the
loops of Henle)

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
KNOCK IT OFF, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know not a thing you are talking about. a seawater enema is JUST AS
DANGEROUS as drinking seawater.

Idiot. geesus kriste!!

From: "AC"
Date: 8/29/2004 5:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

You'd be much better off giving yourself an enema with it, than sitting

in
it.

Several cases of extended survival at sea without drinking, using

seawater
enemas have been reported.


"KimDalkin" wrote in message
...
I just finished ready Jack London's "South Sea Island Tales".

In it he descibes Islanders preventing dehydration by sitting in sea
water. A hurrican had just destroyed the islands drinking water. He
describes it relieving thirst, though not getting rid of it entirely.

I spoke to a doctor friend of mine, and he thinks its pluasible. The
density of salt in the body is just slightly less than sea water. If
severely dehyrated, then reverse osmoosis would occur, and water

would
pass through the skin back into the body.

Does reverse osmosis occur?
If so, should the Ancient Mariner of jumped into the sea, instead of
watching the boards shrink?

Kim


























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