On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:13 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:12:54 -0400, bpuharic wrote:



gee. i know you're not too bright.

did you notice the timeline on this letter?

november 2002. a year after 911.


here you ASSHOLE, is what bin laden said BEFORE he attacked us about
WHY he was attacking us

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terroris...atwa_1996.html


Hey did you actually read this rant?

OBL makes repeated references to the Crusader-Zionist alliance and if
that confused you he also says American-Israeli alliance\

gee. he thinks we're controlled by israel

but doesnt mention israel

he mentions the '2 sacred places'...the mosques of mecca and medina

but you hadnt a clue...

He goes farther to say
Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that the
Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the
hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq.

This is about Israel, get over it.

which, i suppose, is why he doesnt mention israel, instead, bleats on
about the mosques of medina and mecca

but you hate america and love naziism so the truth is irrelevant




YOU are a ****ING NAZI MORON. it's of NO consequence to you that the
nazi islamist movement attacked the US.

YOU BLAME IT ON THE UNITED STATES

i notice NONE of your right wing ass kissing buddies noticed your
cowardice....

asshole

You really have to calm down. I don't want your heart attack on my
conscience.

and you have to get excited. i dont want to have to pull your rotting
hide out of another WTC

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On 7/28/10 9:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:54:13 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:02:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic
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and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it
have
not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply
reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do
whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse
every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we
have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not
give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think
that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find
that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

Finally said something right... they work on Wall Street.


Flajim is now openly spoofing my ID here?

What an ass he is.


Leopard doesn't change it's spots!
Say what? Leopard this! Spot boy!


That's about as dumb a response as you'll read in here!
Get to work, counterman.
I was trying to emulate the dumbest person here. It's hard to even
pretend to be as dumb as you actually are, Donny.

Forget emulating... you set the gold standard for dummies worldwide.
Keep up the dumb work, counterman.

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:34:11 -0400, wrote:


He goes farther to say
Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that the
Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the
hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq.

This is about Israel, get over it.

which, i suppose, is why he doesnt mention israel,

He says "palestine" That is Israel

uh yeah. in the middle of somalia, bosnia, kosovo, etc. he mentions it
passing and then never mentions it again. he focuses on the 'two
sacred spaces' and the govt of saudi arabia.

The Zionists are the Israelis
Why is that so hard for you to understand?

because you're wrong?

it's pretty hard to say he's blaming us for israel when the entire
document deals with sharia in saudia arabia.

guess you never learned to read.


We can debate whether our support of Israel is worth the price but
let's not minimize the cost or the fact that it is the only reason we
are in the middle east. If this was just about oil we would have
invaded Venezuela by now.

and it's irrelevant. fascists like you are experts at inventing
reasons to kill. if it wasn't israel (and he did not say it was),
there would be AnOTHER reason...like our relationship with the govt of
saudi arabia.

so i suggest you stop trying to impose YOUR views on the nazis of
islamist fascism, and read what they actually say.

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On Jul 29, 3:30 am, wrote:


I said that I was hopeful it would change, and from the last link, it
appears to be. So much for him acting as dumb as Bush.


D'Plume. Your president isn't dumb like Bush. He's dumb in his own
unique way, however he is like Bush in that his approval ratings seem
to drop daily.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

No surprise there. Have you noticed how many Obama bumper stickers are
gone? 18 months ago they were everywhere. I remember John Kerry stickers
on cars well over a year after he _lost_ the election.

No surprise that you're a moron.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:11:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"This is not an American offensive, said Johnnie Carson, the
assistant secretary of state for Africa. The U.S. military is not on
the ground in Somalia.."


And...

"Most of the American military assistance to the Somali government has
been
focused on training, or has been channeled through African Union
peacekeepers. But that could change. An American official in Washington,
who
said he was not authorized to speak publicly, predicted that American
covert
forces would get involved if the offensive, which could begin in a few
weeks, dislodged Qaeda terrorists. "

And...

http://original.antiwar.com/lobe/201...slamist-group/

"Obama appears to have suspended such attacks, although, in
mid-September
last year, helicopter-borne U.S. Special Forces ambushed a convoy
carrying
Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, the leader of an al Qaeda cell in Kenya who,
according to U.S. officials, played key roles in the 1998 bombings of
the
U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam and a 2002 bombing of an
Israeli
hotel in Mombasa. "

"That could change" ... "attack in Kenya"

Like I said we are not in Somalia.
A lot of things "could" happen.

We are training them, we have drone attacks on and off. Feel free to bury
your head in the sand.

What part of "on the ground" confuses you?

So you believe that only "on the ground" qualifies as involvement in another
country. Wow.



I am only criticizing Obama for acting as dumb as
Bush

I said that I was hopeful it would change, and from the last link, it
appears to be. So much for him acting as dumb as Bush.

Yeah he "could" be smarter than Bush, we just haven't seen it yet.
I am hopeful but this whole thing was built on "hope" not action.


Yes, we have. He didn't start a war for no reason and he's fulfilling many
of what he said he'd do. He's not a moron and he doesn't take 1/3 of his
time as vacation.


The president is never on vacation. He takes the office with him.

Sure. Hanging out in Crawford clearing brush is exactly the same as sitting
behind a desk in the White House reading reports. Keep defending Bush!

We have been in Korea for almost 60 years and things are worse now
than they were in 1953.


?? In 1953 we were still actively fighting, at least through the first
half
of the year. How many US troops have died fighting N. Koreans this year?


In 1953 big Kim did not have a nuke and he didn't sink any ships.

And, how many US troops have died?? Why don't you blame Clinton for the
nukes and the ship sinking...


You keep ignoring what I write and answering a question I didn't ask.
I will rephrase and ask you again
Do you think things are significantly better in Korea than they were
on July 27. 1953?

Yes. No US troops are dying.

Quibbling about 8 months in a 57 year debacle only shows the weakness
in your position.

?? I'm not quibbling about anything. So far, the peace is being kept in
Korea, with occasional lapses by the NKs.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:11:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"This is not an American offensive, said Johnnie Carson, the
assistant secretary of state for Africa. The U.S. military is not on
the ground in Somalia.."


And...

"Most of the American military assistance to the Somali government has
been
focused on training, or has been channeled through African Union
peacekeepers. But that could change. An American official in
Washington,
who
said he was not authorized to speak publicly, predicted that American
covert
forces would get involved if the offensive, which could begin in a few
weeks, dislodged Qaeda terrorists. "

And...

http://original.antiwar.com/lobe/201...slamist-group/

"Obama appears to have suspended such attacks, although, in
mid-September
last year, helicopter-borne U.S. Special Forces ambushed a convoy
carrying
Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, the leader of an al Qaeda cell in Kenya who,
according to U.S. officials, played key roles in the 1998 bombings of
the
U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam and a 2002 bombing of an
Israeli
hotel in Mombasa. "

"That could change" ... "attack in Kenya"

Like I said we are not in Somalia.
A lot of things "could" happen.

We are training them, we have drone attacks on and off. Feel free to bury
your head in the sand.

What part of "on the ground" confuses you?


I am only criticizing Obama for acting as dumb as
Bush

I said that I was hopeful it would change, and from the last link, it
appears to be. So much for him acting as dumb as Bush.

Yeah he "could" be smarter than Bush, we just haven't seen it yet.
I am hopeful but this whole thing was built on "hope" not action.


Yes, we have. He didn't start a war for no reason and he's fulfilling
many
of what he said he'd do. He's not a moron and he doesn't take 1/3 of his
time as vacation.


The president is never on vacation. He takes the office with him.

We have been in Korea for almost 60 years and things are worse now
than they were in 1953.


?? In 1953 we were still actively fighting, at least through the first
half
of the year. How many US troops have died fighting N. Koreans this
year?


In 1953 big Kim did not have a nuke and he didn't sink any ships.

And, how many US troops have died?? Why don't you blame Clinton for the
nukes and the ship sinking...


You keep ignoring what I write and answering a question I didn't ask.
I will rephrase and ask you again
Do you think things are significantly better in Korea than they were
on July 27. 1953?
Quibbling about 8 months in a 57 year debacle only shows the weakness
in your position.



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There.. I fixed your post for you.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:11:50 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:11:49 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

OBL's beef with us was about Israel

really?

got proof of that?

Bin Laden's l;etter to America

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

(Q1) Why are we fighting and opposing you?

As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The
answer is very simple:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

a) You attacked us in Palestine:

So, you take the word of a mass murderer? Well, you got me there.


I believe him when he tells us what ****ed him off.
Again you didn't read what I wrote before you responded.

Sorry, but I don't believe OBL over anyone including GWB.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:11:50 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:11:49 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

OBL's beef with us was about Israel

really?

got proof of that?

Bin Laden's l;etter to America

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

(Q1) Why are we fighting and opposing you?

As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The
answer is very simple:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

a) You attacked us in Palestine:

So, you take the word of a mass murderer? Well, you got me there.


I believe him when he tells us what ****ed him off.
Again you didn't read what I wrote before you responded.



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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:12:54 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:43:53 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:11:49 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

OBL's beef with us was about Israel

really?

got proof of that?

Bin Laden's l;etter to America

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver

(Q1) Why are we fighting and opposing you?

As for the first question: Why are we fighting and opposing you? The
answer is very simple:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.

a) You attacked us in Palestine:


gee. i know you're not too bright.

did you notice the timeline on this letter?

november 2002. a year after 911.

christ you dont even know modern history. you're a BLITHERINNG MORON
who can't even remember what osama said about WHY he was attacking
us....

when it was called to his attention that he ignored israel in his
original 'declaration of war on america', he issued the letter you
just quoted.

you just make up ****. that's all you do. you make **** up then vomit
your hatred of the US about why nazi beleifs are correct

here you ASSHOLE, is what bin laden said BEFORE he attacked us about
WHY he was attacking us

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terroris...atwa_1996.html


Hey did you actually read this rant?

OBL makes repeated references to the Crusader-Zionist alliance and if
that confused you he also says American-Israeli alliance
He goes farther to say
Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that the
Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the
hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq.

This is about Israel, get over it.


YOU are a ****ING NAZI MORON. it's of NO consequence to you that the
nazi islamist movement attacked the US.

YOU BLAME IT ON THE UNITED STATES

i notice NONE of your right wing ass kissing buddies noticed your
cowardice....

asshole

You really have to calm down. I don't want your heart attack on my
conscience.

Well, what do you expect him to rant about? His a lunatic murderer with
religious zealots on his side. We you expecting him to complain about the
lack of EPA oversight?

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He goes farther to say
Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that the
Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the
hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq.

This is about Israel, get over it.

which, i suppose, is why he doesnt mention israel,

He says "palestine" That is Israel
The Zionists are the Israelis
Why is that so hard for you to understand?

We can debate whether our support of Israel is worth the price but
let's not minimize the cost or the fact that it is the only reason we
are in the middle east. If this was just about oil we would have
invaded Venezuela by now.

The Great Game has been going on for a long time in the middle east region.
We already messed with countries in South America, so there goes that
argument.