On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:06:49 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:



Mumbo Jumbo really. Fact: All kids won't be covered this year
Fact: Insurance company rates are not controlled at all in this bill.

squeezed out on a technicality...due to the GOP screwing the middle
class

Fact: Prescriptions and pre-existing conditions will not be all covered
this year and far into the life of the bill if ever.
Fact: The Pharmas got a great big bone with the extention of generic
protections to 12 years so millions won't have access to the best
medicines and will suffer and die.

uh what? they get health insurance including drug coverage and this
means they wont get coverage?

do you read what you write?

Fact: All illegal aliens will be covered as soon as congress passes a
"comprehensive" (amnesty) immigration act.

uh no. the bill specifically excludes this

Fact: You can't add 35 million people to the medical roles and expect
them to keep up.

sure you can. you just want them to die.

Fact: You can't take billions from doctors and expect better service.

actually they got a raise

Fact: You can't strip money from seniors and expect them to get better
care.

we're not going to get better anyhow. that's what happens when we get
old

Fact: You can't save 38 billion by spending 10 trillion. Maybe they can
call it money "saved or counted" (created snerk
.... The list goes on...

Scotty

and you can't control healthcare by letting insurance companies do
double digit increases with no alternatives for american citizens.

if the GOP hadn't screwed with the process, alot of these problems
could have been addressed

but they're social darwinists

On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:40:26 -0400, wrote:




This is no big secret, they are publicly traded companies.
The profit margin for insurance companies is in the 3-4% range. That
is far less than the fraud and abuse rate in government programs.
It is also lower that the medical conglomerates and pharmaceutical
companies that just got a huge stimulus.

and 30% of their revenue is for administrative costs

vs less than 10% for govt programs

nom=de=plume wrote:
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hk wrote:


On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote:


Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote:


For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk
pools
for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage
when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to
children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps
on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay
on their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.

--
Nom=de=Plume


From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out
on
the market or something like that.


No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing.



Another Krueger?


No idea if she's interested in that.


Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months,
which is what I've said for a while. Now you know.



What's on your short list?


I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with cushions
on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I can find
one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle.



Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie?

http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html

Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool!

Larry wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
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hk wrote:


On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote:


Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote:


For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in
2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk
pools
for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people
coverage
when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to
children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime
caps
on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to
stay
on their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.

--
Nom=de=Plume


From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat
coming out
on
the market or something like that.


No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing.



Another Krueger?


No idea if she's interested in that.


Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months,
which is what I've said for a while. Now you know.



What's on your short list?


I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with
cushions
on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I
can find
one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle.



Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie?

http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html

Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool!

Oops. Forgot to add that my neighbor has a like-new Hobie for sale.
I can get you a real good deal on it.
E-mail me for details. Please.

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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If you have strep, you'd be able to see a doctor. Don't know your
situation, but it sounds like you don't have a very "open" plan.

--
Nom=de=Plume


How do you know you have strep without seeing a doctor for a culture?

Eisboch

"jps" wrote in message
...


I just found a Harvard-educated GP, recommended by a friend. Seems
very personable and thorough. Will be getting my first colonoscopy
soon. Oh boy!

Something struck me as both ironic and funny when I read this.

Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...

I just found a Harvard-educated GP, recommended by a friend. Seems
very personable and thorough. Will be getting my first colonoscopy
soon. Oh boy!

Something struck me as both ironic and funny when I read this.

What goes around, comes around? 8)

On 3/25/10 8:22 PM, Eisboch wrote:
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I just found a Harvard-educated GP, recommended by a friend. Seems
very personable and thorough. Will be getting my first colonoscopy
soon. Oh boy!

Something struck me as both ironic and funny when I read this.





Tailpipe exams are always a subject of irony and humor.

The "rear admiral" who did mine was a woman who was hysterically funny.
I knew right away she was the doc for me! She was terrific. I didn't
feel a thing and I don't remember what happened in the O.R.

But that stuff you have to drink the night before...good grief, it was
just awful.





--
Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another
unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it.

"Larry" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
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hk wrote:


On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote:


Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote:


For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in
2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk
pools
for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people
coverage
when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to
children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime
caps
on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to
stay
on their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.

--
Nom=de=Plume


From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming
out
on
the market or something like that.


No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing.



Another Krueger?


No idea if she's interested in that.


Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months,
which is what I've said for a while. Now you know.



What's on your short list?


I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with
cushions
on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I can
find
one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle.



Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie?

http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html

Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool!


I'm really familar with Hobies! I used to own one eons ago. But, they're a
hassle to trailer, and they're really wet.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...


If you have strep, you'd be able to see a doctor. Don't know your
situation, but it sounds like you don't have a very "open" plan.

--
Nom=de=Plume


How do you know you have strep without seeing a doctor for a culture?

Eisboch



It's tough to tell, so the nurse who typically answers the phone will ask a
bunch of questions, then make a recommendation. If it's likely to be strep,
you need to see the doctor soon, which is never a problem. They can almost
always squeeze you in.

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Nom=de=Plume