On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:25:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Sorry.. I should have marked it as political. My bad.

No, you should have posted it somewhere else.

nom=de=plume wrote:
For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.

There is already access to high risk pools. The costs are 3 times or
more than for everybody else though.

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:42:37 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:



There's a few more the dems like.. The removal of the restrictions on
abortion

bull****.

, the IRS being in charge of collections, the language
controlling insurance company rates (remember, that was one of the tales
they told us about the plan) was removed late in the process, the pharma
companies (also blamed for the high prices) were given a nice bone and
now have 12 years with no competition from generic drugs which means
many more good drugs won't be available to regualar folks... There are
planty more, either way the bill is a hoax on America and a gift to
Unions, Pharma Companies, Big Insurance, and of course the SEIU...

and the middle class, of course...


Passed through corruption and strong arm tactics, by the most sold out
administration in history... I bet they love it.

ROFLMAO!! only someone who's a moron would believe the previous way of
funding healthcare was NOT corrupt. i was a student nurse...if we had
a patient who couldn't pay, we just billed someone else's insurance
company...

you right whiners...living in a cave


Scotty

Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote:

For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.

--
Nom=de=Plume

From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on
the market or something like that.

No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing.

On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote:
For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools
for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage
when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to
children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay
on their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.

--
Nom=de=Plume
From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on
the market or something like that.
No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing.



Another Krueger?

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:16:54 -0400, wrote:



Nobody has said, or even said they will limit, what the insurance
companies can charge for all of these new liabilities.

agreed. we should just let people die. **** 'em


The real
showdown will come when our insurance options and prices show up this
fall. The CEO of Caterpillar is estimating this will cost his company
$100 million in additional health care insurance costs. That will get
passed on to the employees, one way or another..

i love it. as if we're not already paying for these folks. you people
are in-****ing-credibly greedy.


Where is all of the extra medical capacity going to come from to deal
with 31 million new patients?
Supply and demand says the cost of providing care will go up.

actually not. lost time and wages from people who can't get treatment?
scales of efficiency? etc etc...

the right thinks 31M people should just shut the **** up and die.

after all, they're pro life

On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:20:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.


Nobody has said, or even said they will limit, what the insurance
companies can charge for all of these new liabilities. The real
showdown will come when our insurance options and prices show up this
fall. The CEO of Caterpillar is estimating this will cost his company
$100 million in additional health care insurance costs. That will get
passed on to the employees, one way or another..

Where is all of the extra medical capacity going to come from to deal
with 31 million new patients?
Supply and demand says the cost of providing care will go up.




The obvious answer is to get insurance companies out of the basic health
insurance business, and limit them to providing supplemental packages
only. The private, for-profit health insurers add nothing to the mix but
their profits.

Employees already are paying for their health insurance...it's just
buried in their comp package.

I know exactly what my health insurance costs, because the premiums come
out of my pocket, as they do for most all who are members of
construction unions. Our principal local officers and business agents
negotiate an hourly rate, and *we* decide what portion of that goes into
"pay" and what goes into health and welfare.

Where do you get the idea there will be 31 million new patients?

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools
for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage
when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to
children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on
their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.

--
Nom=de=Plume

From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on
the market or something like that.

Ya I know what you mean. It would be nice to see some boat banter for a
change.

There's a few more the dems like.. The removal of the restrictions on
abortion,

Complete bs and a continuation of right wing lies.

the IRS being in charge of collections

This doesn't make any sense on the face of it. Again, complete bs.

the language
controlling insurance company rates (remember, that was one of the tales
they told us about the plan) was removed late in the process, the pharma
companies (also blamed for the high prices) were given a nice bone and
now have 12 years with no competition from generic drugs which means
many more good drugs won't be available to regualar folks... There are

Substantiation? Can't be fixed if it's true? More bs from a nutcase.

planty more, either way the bill is a hoax on America and a gift to
Unions, Pharma Companies, Big Insurance, and of course the SEIU...

Passed through corruption and strong arm tactics, by the most sold out
administration in history... I bet they love it.

Passed through a vote in Congress. It must be Marxism.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:25:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Sorry.. I should have marked it as political. My bad.

No, you should have posted it somewhere else.


You're in charge of the newsgroup. Wow... news to lots of people!

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Nom=de=Plume

wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:29:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
For the righties... which of these things do you not like?

Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010:

90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools
for
people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage
when
they get sick.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to
children
with pre-existing conditions.
180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on
coverage.
180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on
their
parents' policies until they turn 26.
this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug
beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out.

--
Nom=de=Plume

From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on
the market or something like that.

It appears as though she's completely missed the boat, Tim.


It appears as though he's just as afraid of chance as all the other
nutcases, Tim.

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Nom=de=Plume