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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for
a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How come
we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in
bonus money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the
money you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

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I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money
being a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by
living below my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

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Don't you wish you could have been a successful patent atty.

Don't you wish you could have made 1/4 of the money I made as one?

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both
a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up
royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork
for
a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How
come
we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in
bonus
money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the
money you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money
being
a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by living
below
my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

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Nom=de=Plume
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Don't you wish you could have been a successful patent atty.



This from a guy who worked as a home handyman and hired illegal workers
from home depot shape-ups?


But wait! He's got two patents! He's a success!

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both
a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up
royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork
for
a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How
come
we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in
bonus
money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the
money you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money
being
a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by living
below
my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

--
Nom=de=Plume
\

Don't you wish you could have been a successful patent atty.



This from a guy who worked as a home handyman and hired illegal workers
from home depot shape-ups?

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then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer.

And you have proof I hired at Home Depot. I fix peoples homes because I
like to. Not for the money. Lots of older people around here have little
money, but they need repairs. I do it for them cheap. And you help the
poor how? I also volunteer at Habitat for Humanity. And you?

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both
a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up
royally. His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork
for a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How
come we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in
bonus money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the
money you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money
being a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by
living below my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

--
Nom=de=Plume
\

Don't you wish you could have been a successful patent atty.

Don't you wish you could have made 1/4 of the money I made as one?

--
Nom=de=Plume


I doubt you made much. I doubt you were worth a **** as an attorney.
Probably suspended if you were ever an attorney.

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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both
a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up
royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork
for
a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How
come
we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in
bonus
money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the
money you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money
being
a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by living
below
my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

--
Nom=de=Plume
\

Don't you wish you could have been a successful patent atty.



This from a guy who worked as a home handyman and hired illegal workers
from home depot shape-ups?

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then it isn't me, it's an ID spoofer.

And you have proof I hired at Home Depot. I fix peoples homes because I
like to. Not for the money. Lots of older people around here have little
money, but they need repairs. I do it for them cheap. And you help the
poor how? I also volunteer at Habitat for Humanity. And you?




No, Bilious...I have no idea which shape-ups you frequented to find your
illegal workers. Home Depot was just the placemarker for wherever you
hired your illegals.

Is Loogy your son?



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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both
a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up
royally. His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork
for a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed



I am middle class, and my kids are middle class and they are getting
screwed by this administration and the Wall Street you hate. How
come we still have all this unemployment and middle class with little
spending money and Wall Street is giving out billions of bucks in
bonus money?



Middle class huh? Maybe barely. Why don't you tell us about all the
money you made on your patents? Then, you can claim I'm not a PA.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I did not make a lot of money on my patents. I made a lot of money
being a really good engineer and investing the money that I had by
living below my means.

Thus, you are middle class. Way to go. You show them rich folk.

--
Nom=de=Plume
\

Don't you wish you could have been a successful patent atty.

Don't you wish you could have made 1/4 of the money I made as one?

--
Nom=de=Plume


I doubt you made much. I doubt you were worth a **** as an attorney.
Probably suspended if you were ever an attorney.




Your doubts and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee at starbucks. If
that is too abstract for you...your doubts are worth...nothing.

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Of course, if the health care bill fails to pass, you're right about
Obama's leadership.
That's the acid test, right there.
Means he even got the lobbyist-bought Dems in line - or didn't.

Jim - A proud African-American, expecting my man Obama to come through.



My only problem with Obama right now is his recent comments that he is not
concerned
with the parliamentary rules of Congress .... or how Congress skirts them
.... as long as he
gets what he wants passed.

That is a potentially dangerous attitude for any POTUS.
Bush may have "lied" (if you are that opinion), but he convinced Congress
to vote to support him without violating the process.


You quite simply don't know what the **** you are talking about there.
The vote on Sunday, or whenever, will be normal process for a
non-conferenced bill. Been done many, many times.
The "Party of No" wouldn't allow conferencing.
There will be no question of who in the House voted Aye or Nay on the
Senate health care bill.
You've been listening to Fox news again, haven't you?
Or maybe the whining Republican congress critters out there flatly lying
about such things. I warned you of that in the post to which you reply.
Tut tut.
Another big problem in this country - seemingly intelligent people
letting the strings of ideological puppeteers jerk their knees.
Shame on you.
Makes me question whether you are capable of reasoned discourse of
"matters Obama." And that's a shame too.

Jim - Gets his brain in gear before engaging his mouth.

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because that's the way we, the middle class, voted. we voted ALWAYS to
protect the rich. to bail out the rich. and we're doing it again. the
tea baggers main goal:

protect the rich.




It is a majority Democrat controlled Congress, it is a Democrat POTUS. Who
is protecting the rich?

they had zip to do with deregulating the rich. alan greenspan, phil
gramm and his wife, nice disciples of ayn rand and free market
fundamentalism

the democrats are incompetent. they could not have engineered this
mess. they don't have the intelligence

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:52 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks
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Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man
being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?



yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president



You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent
more
in the last year than Bush did in 4 years. And Obama's next budget
is
coming in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount. He is Proposing over
spending more in the next 10 years, that every President, including
Bush
II, has overspent total! My new granddaughter is due tomorrow. She
will
enter the world with a $74,000 debt burden. And you want no pain
due
to
the overspending by both Dem's and Republican's you have voted for.
We
all deserve a severe beating for letting our elected
representatives,
especially the present ones who are setting records, over spend. We
should revolt at the idea they can screw the people and then get
full
pay
for the rest of their lives. We need to hold their feet to the fire
to
both stop spending like drunken sailors and get rid of pensions that
reward them as if they were royalty.




As usual, you're just wrong....

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/19/oba...19hassett.html





That report is 14 months old.




Ok. Produce something more recent. Bush was much worse and ruined the
economy, but it's Obama's fault, right?

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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally.
His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for a
huge crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.



"Obama knew the problems coming in." Yet, his actions didn't take effect
until he was well into the position, and the results when they did have
been
a slowing of the job loss, a stablization of the economy, and he's on
track
to save billions if not trillions. But, of course the Republicans have a
plan... the status quo. To hell with getting the spending under control
in a
meaningful way, reform the financial system, reform the healthcare
system,
reform the school system. Just say no!

Keep flailing away. I'm sure someone out there is listening.



Closing Gitmo was his first declaration as president. It's still open. I
have a huge concern for a president who can't follow through with a
relatively simple task, but wants to tackle universal health care -
something that less than half of his constituents want under it's current
terms.

Why do you think it's a relatively simple task? Even Bush wanted to close
it, and that brilliant mind of his (Karl Rove) couldn't get it done.

Please show me where he's even talking about universal healthcare? He's not,
although it would be a great thing... as all other 1st world countries have
it. And, just so you're clear on the facts, something like 70% of the public
is in favor of a public option. Get real.


Closing Gitmo is simple compared to passing a huge health care bill with
so many unanswered questions.

The last thing I read was that he wanted to push it through and make
changes later. That's a health care plan?

Google "universal health care". I'm not posting any links here.

70%? I don't know where you read that. I haven't read anything over 50%.

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Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?



yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president



You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent
more
in the last year than Bush did in 4 years. And Obama's next budget is
coming in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount. He is Proposing over
spending more in the next 10 years, that every President, including
Bush
II, has overspent total! My new granddaughter is due tomorrow. She
will
enter the world with a $74,000 debt burden. And you want no pain due
to
the overspending by both Dem's and Republican's you have voted for.
We
all deserve a severe beating for letting our elected representatives,
especially the present ones who are setting records, over spend. We
should revolt at the idea they can screw the people and then get full
pay
for the rest of their lives. We need to hold their feet to the fire
to
both stop spending like drunken sailors and get rid of pensions that
reward them as if they were royalty.




As usual, you're just wrong....

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/19/oba...19hassett.html





That report is 14 months old.




Ok. Produce something more recent. Bush was much worse and ruined the
economy, but it's Obama's fault, right?



I never said that. I've also never posted a political link - old or
current - to a boating group and I'm not going to start now.


You're right. You never said it. Yet, you claim it's "old" but won't supply
something more recent. Not much of an argument in favor of your position.
You do have an opinion right?


Sure, but you will be very unhappy to hear that I don't think either
side has the right solutions all of the time. Lately the left has
failed us and your old news doesn't support it any longer.