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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:52 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks
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Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?


yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president


You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent
more
in the last year than Bush did in 4 years. And Obama's next budget is
coming in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount. He is Proposing over
spending more in the next 10 years, that every President, including
Bush
II, has overspent total! My new granddaughter is due tomorrow. She
will
enter the world with a $74,000 debt burden. And you want no pain due
to
the overspending by both Dem's and Republican's you have voted for.
We
all deserve a severe beating for letting our elected representatives,
especially the present ones who are setting records, over spend. We
should revolt at the idea they can screw the people and then get full
pay
for the rest of their lives. We need to hold their feet to the fire
to
both stop spending like drunken sailors and get rid of pensions that
reward them as if they were royalty.



As usual, you're just wrong....

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/19/oba...19hassett.html




That report is 14 months old.




Ok. Produce something more recent. Bush was much worse and ruined the
economy, but it's Obama's fault, right?


I never said that. I've also never posted a political link - old or
current - to a boating group and I'm not going to start now.


You're right. You never said it. Yet, you claim it's "old" but won't supply
something more recent. Not much of an argument in favor of your position.
You do have an opinion right?

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:52 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks
wrote:



Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?

yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president

You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent
more
in the last year than Bush did in 4 years. And Obama's next budget
is
coming in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount. He is Proposing over
spending more in the next 10 years, that every President, including
Bush
II, has overspent total! My new granddaughter is due tomorrow. She
will
enter the world with a $74,000 debt burden. And you want no pain due
to
the overspending by both Dem's and Republican's you have voted for.
We
all deserve a severe beating for letting our elected representatives,
especially the present ones who are setting records, over spend. We
should revolt at the idea they can screw the people and then get full
pay
for the rest of their lives. We need to hold their feet to the fire
to
both stop spending like drunken sailors and get rid of pensions that
reward them as if they were royalty.



As usual, you're just wrong....

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/19/oba...19hassett.html




That report is 14 months old.




Ok. Produce something more recent. Bush was much worse and ruined the
economy, but it's Obama's fault, right?

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Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally.
His spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for
a huge crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.



"Obama knew the problems coming in." Yet, his actions didn't take effect
until he was well into the position, and the results when they did have
been a slowing of the job loss, a stablization of the economy, and he's on
track to save billions if not trillions. But, of course the Republicans
have a plan... the status quo. To hell with getting the spending under
control in a meaningful way, reform the financial system, reform the
healthcare system, reform the school system. Just say no!

Keep flailing away. I'm sure someone out there is listening.

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The only reason the layoffs are slowing is at least 20% of the workforce is
out of work. Lots of the working at underemployed. How did that bank
bailout help? Stopped foreclosures? Helped in loan liquidity?

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"Obama knew the problems coming in." Yet, his actions didn't take
effect until he was well into the position, and the results when they
did have been a slowing of the job loss, a stablization of the
economy, and he's on track to save billions if not trillions. But, of
course the Republicans have a plan... the status quo. To hell with
getting the spending under control in a meaningful way, reform the
financial system, reform the healthcare system, reform the school
system. Just say no!

My crystal ball sure doesn't show the savings of "billions if not
trillions". Are you looking through rose colored glasses?




I'm using the same source as everyone else... the CBO. If you have a
different source, I'd be happy to look at it, as long as it's not
Rush/Beck/Palin/Cheney or Faux News.



I just can't see ridding this country of its "fiscal cancer" anytime
soon. I hope I'm wrong. I know what the CBO says, too many variables and
unforseen circustances. For that matter it could go either way.


I agree with this, and I hope we're both wrong. Of course, the CBO can't
know everything.

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Where are the billions in savings? When do they kick in? Look at the
estimated deficits even after Obama if he makes it 2 terms.
http://www.cbo.gov/

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"Obama knew the problems coming in." Yet, his actions didn't take
effect until he was well into the position, and the results when they
did have been a slowing of the job loss, a stablization of the
economy, and he's on track to save billions if not trillions. But, of
course the Republicans have a plan... the status quo. To hell with
getting the spending under control in a meaningful way, reform the
financial system, reform the healthcare system, reform the school
system. Just say no!

My crystal ball sure doesn't show the savings of "billions if not
trillions". Are you looking through rose colored glasses?




I'm using the same source as everyone else... the CBO. If you have a
different source, I'd be happy to look at it, as long as it's not
Rush/Beck/Palin/Cheney or Faux News.



I just can't see ridding this country of its "fiscal cancer" anytime
soon. I hope I'm wrong. I know what the CBO says, too many variables
and unforseen circustances. For that matter it could go either way.


I agree with this, and I hope we're both wrong. Of course, the CBO can't
know everything.

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Nom=de=Plume


Where are the billions in savings? When do they kick in? Look at the
estimated deficits even after Obama if he makes it 2 terms.
http://www.cbo.gov/

"CBO and JCT estimate that enacting both pieces of legislation—H.R. 3590 and
the reconciliation proposal— would produce a net reduction in federal
deficits of $138 billion over the 2010–2019 period as result of changes in
direct spending and revenue (see the top panel of Table 1 and subtitle A of
title II on Table 5)."

and

"CBO has not extrapolated estimates further into the future because the
uncertainties surrounding them are magnified even more. However, in view of
the projected net savings during the decade following the 10-year budget
window, CBO anticipates that the reconciliation proposal would probably
continue to reduce budget deficits relative to those under current law in
subsequent decades, assuming that all of its provisions would continue to be
fully implemented."


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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:52 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks
wrote:



Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man
being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?

yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president

You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent
more
in the last year than Bush did in 4 years. And Obama's next budget
is
coming in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount. He is Proposing over
spending more in the next 10 years, that every President, including
Bush
II, has overspent total! My new granddaughter is due tomorrow. She
will
enter the world with a $74,000 debt burden. And you want no pain
due to
the overspending by both Dem's and Republican's you have voted for.
We
all deserve a severe beating for letting our elected
representatives,
especially the present ones who are setting records, over spend. We
should revolt at the idea they can screw the people and then get
full pay
for the rest of their lives. We need to hold their feet to the fire
to
both stop spending like drunken sailors and get rid of pensions that
reward them as if they were royalty.



As usual, you're just wrong....

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/19/oba...19hassett.html




That report is 14 months old.




Ok. Produce something more recent. Bush was much worse and ruined the
economy, but it's Obama's fault, right?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct. But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up
royally. His spending is out of control, not helping and laying the
groundwork for a huge crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.



"Obama knew the problems coming in." Yet, his actions didn't take effect
until he was well into the position, and the results when they did have
been a slowing of the job loss, a stablization of the economy, and he's
on track to save billions if not trillions. But, of course the
Republicans have a plan... the status quo. To hell with getting the
spending under control in a meaningful way, reform the financial system,
reform the healthcare system, reform the school system. Just say no!

Keep flailing away. I'm sure someone out there is listening.

--
Nom=de=Plume


The only reason the layoffs are slowing is at least 20% of the workforce
is out of work. Lots of the working at underemployed. How did that bank
bailout help? Stopped foreclosures? Helped in loan liquidity?

Really? The only reason. And you know this because you have some inside
information? Or, more likely, you're listening to someone's talking point.

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wrote:


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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:52 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks
wrote:



Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?

yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president

You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent more in
the last year than Bush did in 4 years

to repair the damage bush and his wall street playboy buddies did to
the economy

yet you guys blame it on the darkie.

speaking of stupid...

.. And Obama's next budget is coming
in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount.

irrelevant. the interest after all his spending will amount to 3.4% of
GDP...which is about the same as bush number one spent on debt service

you right wing racists are just too stupid to be believed

He is Proposing over spending more
in the next 10 years, that every President, including Bush II, has overspent
total!

and if he hadnt rescued the economy? what life would she have with 25%
unemployment?

of course you wont answer....

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:19:35 -0400, wrote:



What this doesn't say is that 65% of government spending is for
entitlements and the interest on the debt. That will be more like 80%
in the next decade or two.
Right now all government spending other than this and the military is
only 17%.
I would certainly like to see us scale back the 18% we spend on the
military by bringing our troops home from all the mis-adventures we
are engaged in but I don't think that is enough to save us.

wall street ****ed us and then blamed it on the middle class.

that's where the tea baggers come from

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally. His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.

really? 25% unemployment looks good?

oh. i forgot. you're right wing. to the right wing, the middle class
should ALWAYS get screwed

On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:07:54 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:18:33 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Ok. Produce something more recent. Bush was much worse and ruined the
economy, but it's Obama's fault, right?

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Nom=de=Plume


Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more correct.
But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up royally. His
spending is out of control, not helping and laying the groundwork for a huge
crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.


Something that I am sure will be pointed out in the congressional
elections is that the economy tanked after the Democrats took over
both houses in 2006. Neither Bush nor Obama is going to be on the
ballot but about 468 people from congress will be.

and who was president?

oh. bush.

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:45:52 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks
wrote:



Naw. Jest cracker talk from them's too scared of a black man
being
Prez. Like I said, we colored folk fish too.
You ain't said nothin but scare talk. Nothin. Not a damn
detail.
Why's that, peckerwood?

yeah it's amazing. a rich white guy destroys the economy and the
middle class

and they blame it on the darkie president

You sound really stupid and you probably are. Obama has over spent
more
in the last year than Bush did in 4 years. And Obama's next budget
is
coming in with a $1.4 trillion deficit amount. He is Proposing
over
spending more in the next 10 years, that every President, including
Bush
II, has overspent total! My new granddaughter is due tomorrow.
She will
enter the world with a $74,000 debt burden. And you want no pain
due to
the overspending by both Dem's and Republican's you have voted for.
We
all deserve a severe beating for letting our elected
representatives,
especially the present ones who are setting records, over spend.
We
should revolt at the idea they can screw the people and then get
full pay
for the rest of their lives. We need to hold their feet to the
fire to
both stop spending like drunken sailors and get rid of pensions
that
reward them as if they were royalty.



As usual, you're just wrong....

http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/19/oba...19hassett.html




That report is 14 months old.




Ok. Produce something more recent. Bush was much worse and ruined the
economy, but it's Obama's fault, right?

--
Nom=de=Plume


Bush screwed the economy. You are somewhat correct. Throw in both a
Republican and Democrat Controlled Congress and you got it more
correct. But Obama knew the problems coming in. He has screwed it up
royally. His spending is out of control, not helping and laying the
groundwork for a huge crash. Make 1929 look good, maybe.



"Obama knew the problems coming in." Yet, his actions didn't take effect
until he was well into the position, and the results when they did have
been a slowing of the job loss, a stablization of the economy, and he's
on track to save billions if not trillions. But, of course the
Republicans have a plan... the status quo. To hell with getting the
spending under control in a meaningful way, reform the financial system,
reform the healthcare system, reform the school system. Just say no!

Keep flailing away. I'm sure someone out there is listening.

--
Nom=de=Plume


The only reason the layoffs are slowing is at least 20% of the workforce
is out of work. Lots of the working at underemployed. How did that bank
bailout help? Stopped foreclosures? Helped in loan liquidity?

Really? The only reason. And you know this because you have some inside
information? Or, more likely, you're listening to someone's talking point.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Nope, I have an analytical brain. You have a brain?