On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:38:40 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:54:22 -0400, Lu Powell wrote:


I have a dossier for all of them - mid term elections is 2020 and
quadrennial election in 2012, with a slew of tea parties from now on
till they change their ways or are gone.

At least those are fair tactics, but there are parts of the Republican
party that are coming across as very poor *losers*. I particularly like
the tactic of disrupting town hall meetings. I guess Obama should learn
from Bush, and institute an invitation only policy. The gnashing of
teeth begins. If you listen very closely, you might just hear the sounds
of Republicans in the wilderness... noooo, noooo.

The town hall meetings are being disrupted by those against the
current batch of bull****, unread policies. Those folks are both
Republicans *and* Democrats.

Listen to someone other than Pelosi or Reid.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:42:38 -0400, Little John wrote:


The town hall meetings are being disrupted by those against the current
batch of bull****, unread policies. Those folks are both Republicans
*and* Democrats.

Funny, I heard Rush say the very same thing.

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:45:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:42:38 -0400, Little John wrote:


The town hall meetings are being disrupted by those against the current
batch of bull****, unread policies. Those folks are both Republicans
*and* Democrats.

Funny, I heard Rush say the very same thing.

Good. Now expand a little more and you'll get a feel for what's
happening.

Thunder, do you think it's a *good* thing for unread bills to be
passed?
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:54:22 -0400, Lu Powell wrote:


I have a dossier for all of them - mid term elections is 2020 and
quadrennial election in 2012, with a slew of tea parties from now on
till they change their ways or are gone.

At least those are fair tactics, but there are parts of the Republican
party that are coming across as very poor *losers*. I particularly like
the tactic of disrupting town hall meetings. I guess Obama should learn
from Bush, and institute an invitation only policy. The gnashing of
teeth begins. If you listen very closely, you might just hear the sounds
of Republicans in the wilderness... noooo, noooo.


I think an announcement ought to be made at the beginning of those town
hall meetings that anyone who behaves in a "disruptive" manner will be
ejected immediately.

The meetings are set up for dialogue between rational adults, usually
with a presented and an audience, and the audience is supposed to ask
questions and get answers during and after the presentation.

Unfortunately, mostly Republicans are engaging in planned and
coordinated activities to disrupt the meetings. Well, screw 'em. Toss
them out of the meetings as forcefully as they misbehave, and if they
resist, arrest them.

Civil protest and disobedience is fine in this country. When protestors
cannot behave in a civil fashion, it is time to toss them out on their
asses.

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:50:02 -0400, H the K wrote:


I think an announcement ought to be made at the beginning of those town
hall meetings that anyone who behaves in a "disruptive" manner will be
ejected immediately.

The meetings are set up for dialogue between rational adults, usually
with a presented and an audience, and the audience is supposed to ask
questions and get answers during and after the presentation.

Unfortunately, mostly Republicans are engaging in planned and
coordinated activities to disrupt the meetings. Well, screw 'em. Toss
them out of the meetings as forcefully as they misbehave, and if they
resist, arrest them.

Civil protest and disobedience is fine in this country. When protestors
cannot behave in a civil fashion, it is time to toss them out on their
asses.

I was only joking about an invitation only policy. Personally, I like
letting them disrupt the meetings. Eventually, they will be seen for
what they are, sore losers.

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:49:10 -0400, Another John wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:45:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:42:38 -0400, Little John wrote:


The town hall meetings are being disrupted by those against the
current batch of bull****, unread policies. Those folks are both
Republicans *and* Democrats.

Funny, I heard Rush say the very same thing.

Good. Now expand a little more and you'll get a feel for what's
happening.

Thunder, do you think it's a *good* thing for unread bills to be passed?

Another Rip Van Winkle. Do you think Congressmen just now stopped
reading bills? Just because Obama's President?

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:50:02 -0400, H the K wrote:


I think an announcement ought to be made at the beginning of those town
hall meetings that anyone who behaves in a "disruptive" manner will be
ejected immediately.

The meetings are set up for dialogue between rational adults, usually
with a presented and an audience, and the audience is supposed to ask
questions and get answers during and after the presentation.

Unfortunately, mostly Republicans are engaging in planned and
coordinated activities to disrupt the meetings. Well, screw 'em. Toss
them out of the meetings as forcefully as they misbehave, and if they
resist, arrest them.

Civil protest and disobedience is fine in this country. When protestors
cannot behave in a civil fashion, it is time to toss them out on their
asses.

I was only joking about an invitation only policy. Personally, I like
letting them disrupt the meetings. Eventually, they will be seen for
what they are, sore losers.


The majority of citizens who show up at these meetings are well-behaved
adults who either want information, or want to question their
congresscritter in an appropriate fashion, or want to get a point of
view across in the civil manner. The ****bags who show up only to
disrupt interfere with the process. The problem with "eventually," is
that rational reasonable adults who want to attend such meetings will
simply stop showing up because of the disruptors.

"H the K" wrote in message
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Lu Powell wrote:


I have a dossier for all of them - mid term elections is 2020 and
quadrennial election in 2012, with a slew of tea parties from now on till
they change their ways or are gone.


Lu-ser Powell, teabagger extraordinaire. Suits you. Think you'll still be
around for those 2020 mid-terms?

Right on cue, trying to discredit the messenger when you can't discredit the
message. I probably won't be around in 2020, since you asked. 2010 is more
likely to include me.

Typos don't make one a bad person.

LOSER. WAFA.

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:00:21 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:49:10 -0400, Another John wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:45:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:42:38 -0400, Little John wrote:


The town hall meetings are being disrupted by those against the
current batch of bull****, unread policies. Those folks are both
Republicans *and* Democrats.

Funny, I heard Rush say the very same thing.

Good. Now expand a little more and you'll get a feel for what's
happening.

Thunder, do you think it's a *good* thing for unread bills to be passed?

Another Rip Van Winkle. Do you think Congressmen just now stopped
reading bills? Just because Obama's President?

Another question unanswered.

I've heard of very few thousand page bills attempting to get shoved
through Congress in two days.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:49:10 -0400, Another John wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:45:47 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:42:38 -0400, Little John wrote:


The town hall meetings are being disrupted by those against the
current batch of bull****, unread policies. Those folks are both
Republicans *and* Democrats.
Funny, I heard Rush say the very same thing.
Good. Now expand a little more and you'll get a feel for what's
happening.

Thunder, do you think it's a *good* thing for unread bills to be passed?

Another Rip Van Winkle. Do you think Congressmen just now stopped
reading bills? Just because Obama's President?


Most congressperson depend upon their staff to prepare a precis of
Bills, and to call out areas that individual congressperson might either
approve of or find objectionable. Anyone who thinks congresspersons read
through the mountain of Bills that are introduced in each session of
Congress is hopelessly naive. Some Bills are read from beginning to end
by many members but not the majority of them.

Since the start of the current congress, some 3500 Bills have been
introduced in the House and some 1500 have been introduced in the
Senate. The House has passed 500+ Bills, the Senate half that many or
maybe a little less. There are tons and tons of other paperwork going
around, including committee and subcommittee testimony.

I suppose if you are really simple-minded, you think your
representatives personally read every document that crosses their desks.