"BAR" wrote in message
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H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and
everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think*
they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's a
fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the
U.S., even when people have health care insurance. Remember, most
people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long term illness, you
lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt.


Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance
reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care
insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the
Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about
Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term
illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt."
scenario.


Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our health
care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the health care
system.


So you expect the health insurance people, the hospital administrators and
doctors to reform a system that had made them wealthy?
They'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and
everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think*
they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's
a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in
the U.S., even when people have health care insurance.
Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long
term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt.


Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance
reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care
insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the
Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about
Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term
illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario.


Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our
health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the
health care system.

After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a
government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't
spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole.

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and
everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think*
they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's
a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in
the U.S., even when people have health care insurance.
Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long
term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt.


Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance
reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care
insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the
Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about
Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term
illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario.


Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our
health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the
health care system.

After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a
government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't
spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole.

4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come.

--
Wafa free since 2009

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and
everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think*
they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's
a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in
the U.S., even when people have health care insurance.
Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long
term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt.


Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance
reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care
insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the
Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about
Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term
illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario.


Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our
health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the
health care system.

After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a
government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't
spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole.

4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come.
Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey?

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and
everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think*
they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's
a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in
the U.S., even when people have health care insurance.
Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long
term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt.


Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance
reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care
insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the
Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about
Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term
illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario.


Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our
health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the
health care system.

After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a
government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't
spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole.

4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come.
Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey?

No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing point
of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and
everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that.
I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think*
they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's
a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in
the U.S., even when people have health care insurance.
Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long
term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt.

Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance
reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care
insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the
Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about
Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term
illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario.

Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our
health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the
health care system.
After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a
government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't
spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole.
4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come.
Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey?

No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing point
of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk



What's funny-sad is that JustWait is without proper health insurance and
depends upon the "informal" uninsured system to take care of his medical
needs. He's one of those "I'll be glad to bend over for the Republicans"
conservatives.

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to
gain and everything to lose. I think people are beginning to
understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people
*think* they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to
use it. It's a fact that health care costs are the leading
cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., even when people have health
care insurance. Remember, most people's insurance is tied to
their jobs. Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your
insurance, then go bankrupt.


Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care
insurance reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets
and health care insurance or retired military with federal health
care. It's part of the Republican "I've got mine, so **** you"
syndrome. They do not care about Americans who unfortunately fall
into the "Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your
insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario.


Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our
health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over
the health care system.

After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a
government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't
spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a
rathole.

4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come.
Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey?

No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing point
of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk

Then you recognize we are wasting our resources with wars that we have no
intention of winning. Great!

Write a letter to Congress and let them know of your disapproval of the
foolishness that has prevailed for eight years.

Here is a helpful link. Do something worth while.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscong...rscongress.htm

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:50:13 -0400, RLM wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to
gain and everything to lose. I think people are beginning to
understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people
*think* they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to
use it. It's a fact that health care costs are the leading
cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., even when people have health
care insurance. Remember, most people's insurance is tied to
their jobs. Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your
insurance, then go bankrupt.


Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care
insurance reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets
and health care insurance or retired military with federal health
care. It's part of the Republican "I've got mine, so **** you"
syndrome. They do not care about Americans who unfortunately fall
into the "Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your
insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario.


Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our
health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over
the health care system.

After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a
government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't
spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a
rathole.

4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come.
Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey?

No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing point
of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk

Then you recognize we are wasting our resources with wars that we have no
intention of winning. Great!

Write a letter to Congress and let them know of your disapproval of the
foolishness that has prevailed for eight years.

Here is a helpful link. Do something worth while.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscong...rscongress.htm

Have you written to Obama about the foolishness in which he's engaged?
Are the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan free? He could have been out of
both countries by the end of February. He's running *his* wars now.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:27:20 -0400, John Leo wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:50:13 -0400, RLM wrote:

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to
gain and everything to lose. I think people are beginning to
understand that.

I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people
*think* they have excellent coverage, until they actually try
to use it. It's a fact that health care costs are the leading
cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., even when people have health
care insurance. Remember, most people's insurance is tied to
their jobs. Get a long term illness, you lose your job and
your insurance, then go bankrupt.


Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care
insurance reform are retired Republicans with substantial
assets and health care insurance or retired military with
federal health care. It's part of the Republican "I've got
mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about Americans
who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term illness, you
lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario.


Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming
our health care system. We are opposed to the government taking
over the health care system.

After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a
government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they
aren't spending billions loosing another war. That was money down
a rathole.

4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come.
Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey?

No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing
point of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk

Then you recognize we are wasting our resources with wars that we have
no intention of winning. Great!

Write a letter to Congress and let them know of your disapproval of the
foolishness that has prevailed for eight years.

Here is a helpful link. Do something worth while.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscong...rscongress.htm

Have you written to Obama about the foolishness in which he's engaged?
Are the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan free? He could have been out of
both countries by the end of February. He's running *his* wars now.

My "Congress Critters" quite possibly recognize my name. Obama wasn't in
office when these fools started their mess. I'm a registered voter and
exercise my right. That answers enough of your question.

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:54:22 -0400, Lu Powell wrote:


I have a dossier for all of them - mid term elections is 2020 and
quadrennial election in 2012, with a slew of tea parties from now on
till they change their ways or are gone.

At least those are fair tactics, but there are parts of the Republican
party that are coming across as very poor *losers*. I particularly like
the tactic of disrupting town hall meetings. I guess Obama should learn
from Bush, and institute an invitation only policy. The gnashing of
teeth begins. If you listen very closely, you might just hear the sounds
of Republicans in the wilderness... noooo, noooo.


I think an announcement ought to be made at the beginning of those town
hall meetings that anyone who behaves in a "disruptive" manner will be
ejected immediately.

The meetings are set up for dialogue between rational adults, usually with
a presented and an audience, and the audience is supposed to ask questions
and get answers during and after the presentation.

Unfortunately, mostly Republicans are engaging in planned and coordinated
activities to disrupt the meetings. Well, screw 'em. Toss them out of the
meetings as forcefully as they misbehave, and if they resist, arrest them.

Civil protest and disobedience is fine in this country. When protestors
cannot behave in a civil fashion, it is time to toss them out on their
asses.

An open town hall meeting, with pro signs, and a stacked audience before the
doors are open to the public. That sounds like a fair dialogue place.