On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:17:02 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


...... three months makes.

Obama is letting the CIA and the Bush JD lawyers off the hook.
Chris Matthews is strongly defending our anti-Castro position.
Keith Olbermann is becoming more and more disgusted with Obama.

Stay tuned for further developments.

Eisboch

Did he say the lawyers were off the hook? I thought it was just the
practitioners who were dependent on the instructions of others.

This is where the stark difference between left and right show up.

The left aren't afraid to criticize their leaders when there's
disagreement.

The right often remain in lockstep with its leaders no matter.

"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.

"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:17:02 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


...... three months makes.

Obama is letting the CIA and the Bush JD lawyers off the hook.
Chris Matthews is strongly defending our anti-Castro position.
Keith Olbermann is becoming more and more disgusted with Obama.

Stay tuned for further developments.

Eisboch

Did he say the lawyers were off the hook? I thought it was just the
practitioners who were dependent on the instructions of others.

This is where the stark difference between left and right show up.

The left aren't afraid to criticize their leaders when there's
disagreement.

The right often remain in lockstep with its leaders no matter.

"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.



Sorry. The word "disgust" comes to mind too quickly when thinking of
Olbermann.
And before you hit the "fire" button, it is his style and manner that I
despise so much, not necessarily all his points of views. He creates more
division and distrust among people with different thoughts and ideas on a
subject than anyone I know and does so with a sneer on his face.

Back to your question .... my understanding is that the Bush's JD
department is off the hook also.

Eisboch

"jps" wrote in message
...


"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.




Thanks for bringing this subject up. I don't agree with you.

It seems to me from watching and reading the various media outlets and
catching the buzz word phrases and talking points of both the lefty lefts
and the righty rights that the lefties have adopted a "we are smarter, we
are better, we are the enlightened, we are right (correct) attitude. It's at
the expense of those who don't share their viewpoints by referring to their
"inferior" status. The words "elitist" and "snob" come to mind very
quickly.

The righty rights have not picked up this habit yet, at least not to the
degree the lefty lefts have.

Examples are available daily right here in this newsgroup.

Eisboch

On Apr 17, 1:15*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

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"Disgust" is your *sensationalized version of what's happening. *On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.

Thanks for bringing this subject up. * *I don't agree with you.

It seems to me from watching and reading the various media outlets and
catching the buzz word phrases and talking points of both the lefty lefts
and the righty rights that the lefties have adopted a "we are smarter, we
are better, we are the enlightened, we are right (correct) attitude. It's at
the expense of those who don't share their viewpoints by referring to their
"inferior" status. * The words "elitist" and "snob" come to mind very
quickly.

The righty rights have not picked up this habit yet, at least not to the
degree the lefty lefts have.

Examples are available daily right here in this newsgroup.

Eisboch

Yup, take the last "answer" by JPS calling someone "daft" for having a
reasonable point of view..

Eisboch wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...


"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.




Thanks for bringing this subject up. I don't agree with you.

It seems to me from watching and reading the various media outlets and
catching the buzz word phrases and talking points of both the lefty
lefts and the righty rights that the lefties have adopted a "we are
smarter, we are better, we are the enlightened, we are right (correct)
attitude. It's at the expense of those who don't share their viewpoints
by referring to their "inferior" status. The words "elitist" and
"snob" come to mind very quickly.

The righty rights have not picked up this habit yet, at least not to the
degree the lefty lefts have.

Examples are available daily right here in this newsgroup.

Eisboch


Most of the "righty rights" here are as dumb as a doorknob. Loogy is a
lefty; he's also dumb as a doorknob. You're a moderate righty, and I
don't think you have been accused of being dumb.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:15:22 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .


"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.




Thanks for bringing this subject up. I don't agree with you.

It seems to me from watching and reading the various media outlets and
catching the buzz word phrases and talking points of both the lefty lefts
and the righty rights that the lefties have adopted a "we are smarter, we
are better, we are the enlightened, we are right (correct) attitude. It's at
the expense of those who don't share their viewpoints by referring to their
"inferior" status. The words "elitist" and "snob" come to mind very
quickly.

The righty rights have not picked up this habit yet, at least not to the
degree the lefty lefts have.

Why should they? They just call opponents gun-grabbers, baby-killers,
socialists or commies. No need to use fancy words.
You can't seriously believe that Hannity/Limbaugh think their ****
stinks more than Olbermann's.


Examples are available daily right here in this newsgroup.

That's for sure. But don't mistake who are the "elitists."
Both sides think they are the true champions, have nothing but
contempt for the other side, and their "leaders" have the little guys
fighting each other. It's good for their business.
Not much different from major league soccer. The guys putting on the
show get rich, and the spectators cry in their beer at losses, cheer
small victories, and occasionally the hooligans riot.
Nothing new.
Your main choice is whether or not to show up for the games.

--Vic

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:00:41 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:15:22 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..


"Disgust" is your sensationalized version of what's happening. On
the left, we consider it discourse, dissent, a challenge to do the
right thing.

On the right it's considered unpatriotic, sedition or appeasement.




Thanks for bringing this subject up. I don't agree with you.

It seems to me from watching and reading the various media outlets and
catching the buzz word phrases and talking points of both the lefty lefts
and the righty rights that the lefties have adopted a "we are smarter, we
are better, we are the enlightened, we are right (correct) attitude. It's at
the expense of those who don't share their viewpoints by referring to their
"inferior" status. The words "elitist" and "snob" come to mind very
quickly.

The righty rights have not picked up this habit yet, at least not to the
degree the lefty lefts have.

Why should they? They just call opponents gun-grabbers, baby-killers,
socialists or commies. No need to use fancy words.
You can't seriously believe that Hannity/Limbaugh think their ****
stinks more than Olbermann's.


Examples are available daily right here in this newsgroup.

That's for sure. But don't mistake who are the "elitists."
Both sides think they are the true champions, have nothing but
contempt for the other side, and their "leaders" have the little guys
fighting each other. It's good for their business.
Not much different from major league soccer. The guys putting on the
show get rich, and the spectators cry in their beer at losses, cheer
small victories, and occasionally the hooligans riot.
Nothing new.
Your main choice is whether or not to show up for the games.

--Vic

If you don't show up, you're just another spectator.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:00:41 -0500, Vic Smith

Your main choice is whether or not to show up for the games.

--Vic

If you don't show up, you're just another spectator.

Everybody here is a spectator. The only game is election day.
But the real fans can argue off-season.
Of course there may be some political activists here who actually
participate in politics when they're not boating.
Personally, I find their boats more interesting.
Most can talk real nuts and bolts about boat, but they're just nuts
when talking politics.

--Vic

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:34:13 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:04:23 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:00:41 -0500, Vic Smith

Your main choice is whether or not to show up for the games.

--Vic

If you don't show up, you're just another spectator.

Everybody here is a spectator. The only game is election day.
But the real fans can argue off-season.
Of course there may be some political activists here who actually
participate in politics when they're not boating.
Personally, I find their boats more interesting.
Most can talk real nuts and bolts about boat, but they're just nuts
when talking politics.

--Vic

Present company excepted I'm sure.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...

Everybody here is a spectator. The only game is election day.


I disagree.

Make enough of a stink and the pols will pay attention, even during the
off-season.

Eisboch