On Jan 17, 1:34*pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related

(One of my favorites.)

Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

This really sucks...

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:34*pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related

(One of my favorites.)

Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

This really sucks...

Well, maybe they just want the Army back in San Francisco.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:22:49 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:34*pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related

(One of my favorites.)

Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

This really sucks...

Well, maybe they just want the Army back in San Francisco.

Plus, I've got a feeling that allowing some open gays into the Army,
Marines, etc, is going to result in a lot of openly gay guys getting the
**** stomped out of them. Not judging right or wrong, but I'll bet it
happens.

On Jan 17, 2:31*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:22:49 -0500, John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:34*pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related

(One of my favorites.)

Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

This really sucks...

Well, maybe they just want the Army back in San Francisco.

Plus, I've got a feeling that allowing some open gays into the Army,
Marines, etc, is going to result in a lot of openly gay guys getting the
**** stomped out of them. Not judging right or wrong, but I'll bet it
happens.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have a feeling it will be the opposite. I think they would put open
pressure through activism on straight recruits making them very
uncomfortable. Look at the armies around the world who allow open gay
activity. I think it kills the team by separating them and through
privilege of "special" protection. I won't say all, but as in civilian
situations, activists will take advantage of the situation to disrupt
and attempt to indoctrinate..

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:34:58 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 17, 2:31*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:22:49 -0500, John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:34*pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related

(One of my favorites.)

Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

This really sucks...

Well, maybe they just want the Army back in San Francisco.

Plus, I've got a feeling that allowing some open gays into the Army,
Marines, etc, is going to result in a lot of openly gay guys getting the
**** stomped out of them. Not judging right or wrong, but I'll bet it
happens.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have a feeling it will be the opposite. I think they would put open
pressure through activism on straight recruits making them very
uncomfortable. Look at the armies around the world who allow open gay
activity. I think it kills the team by separating them and through
privilege of "special" protection. I won't say all, but as in civilian
situations, activists will take advantage of the situation to disrupt
and attempt to indoctrinate..

You really think that someone could give you a sales pitch and make
you gay?

"John H" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:22:49 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:34 pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related

(One of my favorites.)

Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

This really sucks...

Well, maybe they just want the Army back in San Francisco.

Plus, I've got a feeling that allowing some open gays into the Army,
Marines, etc, is going to result in a lot of openly gay guys getting the
**** stomped out of them. Not judging right or wrong, but I'll bet it
happens.


All depends. If the gays interpret this as a free ticket to actively live
and promote their lifestyle, yep, they are going to pay the consequences.
If they continue to keep their persuasion private and among themselves, no
problem.

Eisboch

On Jan 17, 2:38*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:22:49 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 17, 1:34 pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related

(One of my favorites.)

Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08

This really sucks...

Well, maybe they just want the Army back in San Francisco.

Plus, I've got a feeling that allowing some open gays into the Army,
Marines, etc, is going to result in a lot of openly gay guys getting the
**** stomped out of them. Not judging right or wrong, but I'll bet it
happens.

All depends. *If the gays interpret this as a free ticket to actively live
and promote their lifestyle, yep, they are going to pay the consequences.
If they continue to keep their persuasion private and among themselves, *no
problem.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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If they would be satisfied to serve and keep their persuasion private,
there would be no problem. They already have the protections in place
to do that. This is something the activists want so they can actively
live and promote their lifestyle... Even if all don't, it only takes
a few zealous activists to disrupt any organization. I know the haters
will say I am prejudice, sure, I have issues with homosexuals, but as
a conservative (well liberatarian) Christian I have decided to not be
their judge. I have a couple of great gay couples right here in my
neighborhood, both couples raising children. I have no problem with
that, I do however appreciate that neither couple is trying outwardly
to sway their children in any particular direction.

wrote:
On Jan 17, 2:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

...





On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:22:49 -0500, John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST),
wrote:
On Jan 17, 1:34 pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related
(One of my favorites.)
Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08
This really sucks...
Well, maybe they just want the Army back in San Francisco.
Plus, I've got a feeling that allowing some open gays into the Army,
Marines, etc, is going to result in a lot of openly gay guys getting the
**** stomped out of them. Not judging right or wrong, but I'll bet it
happens.
All depends. If the gays interpret this as a free ticket to actively live
and promote their lifestyle, yep, they are going to pay the consequences.
If they continue to keep their persuasion private and among themselves, no
problem.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If they would be satisfied to serve and keep their persuasion private,
there would be no problem. They already have the protections in place
to do that. This is something the activists want so they can actively
live and promote their lifestyle... Even if all don't, it only takes
a few zealous activists to disrupt any organization. I know the haters
will say I am prejudice, sure, I have issues with homosexuals, but as
a conservative (well liberatarian) Christian I have decided to not be
their judge. I have a couple of great gay couples right here in my
neighborhood, both couples raising children. I have no problem with
that, I do however appreciate that neither couple is trying outwardly
to sway their children in any particular direction.


You say you are a christian, but your hehavior says no.

hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 17, 2:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

...





On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:22:49 -0500, John H
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:52:10 -0800 (PST),

wrote:
On Jan 17, 1:34 pm, John H wrote:
...we need a United States Sailors' Dance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouNQ...eature=related
(One of my favorites.)
Well, if Pelosi and Obama get their way, this will be the new U.S.
Army fight song..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08
This really sucks...
Well, maybe they just want the Army back in San Francisco.
Plus, I've got a feeling that allowing some open gays into the Army,
Marines, etc, is going to result in a lot of openly gay guys getting
the
**** stomped out of them. Not judging right or wrong, but I'll bet it
happens.
All depends. If the gays interpret this as a free ticket to actively
live
and promote their lifestyle, yep, they are going to pay the
consequences.
If they continue to keep their persuasion private and among
themselves, no
problem.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If they would be satisfied to serve and keep their persuasion private,
there would be no problem. They already have the protections in place
to do that. This is something the activists want so they can actively
live and promote their lifestyle... Even if all don't, it only takes
a few zealous activists to disrupt any organization. I know the haters
will say I am prejudice, sure, I have issues with homosexuals, but as
a conservative (well liberatarian) Christian I have decided to not be
their judge. I have a couple of great gay couples right here in my
neighborhood, both couples raising children. I have no problem with
that, I do however appreciate that neither couple is trying outwardly
to sway their children in any particular direction.


You say you are a christian, but your hehavior says no.

It has nothing to do with being a Christian or about behavior. It has to
do with maintaining order and discipline. A cohesive fighting unit can't
have two sub groups.

wrote in message
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Ok. That's enough about gays. Let's get back to the original, off-topic
subject that we were discussing.

I just finished moving the Hammond "Porta-B" and it's Leslie speaker up from
the horse garage to my "apartment".

Whoever decided this thing is portable took a lot of liberties, especially
when you are doing it yourself. The upper section still weighs 249 lbs and
the Leslie isn't exactly a lightweight either. I got my energy up, grabbed
a dolly and got it done. Out of the garage, up that ice packed driveway,
into the house (with Mrs.E. freaking out), up two flights of stairs and ....
whew.... done.

Now I need to get some beer to nurse my aching back. I also am thinking
that thank God my B3 rental business really hasn't taken off. The Porta-B
is 249 lbs. The B3 is 500.

Sounds good though.

Eisboch