Reginald Etc.
 

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:39:22 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs
here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends
of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a
hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time
to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the
loudest seem to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound
when you make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim
their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their
behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha
and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of
constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to
Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the
Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'?
You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been
able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My
father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. --

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes
their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't
turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone.
Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's
knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just
another way to mock someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says
one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not
demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7
years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to
remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that
year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant
Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing
more, nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.
I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much
more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait


You really don't get it.

Yes, we get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

Yes.

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond
to those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we
aren't lucky enough to be kept men.

Indeed, I don't know why any smart, educated sensible woman would want
to keep something like you around.


Now see. You could have addressed the comments he made regarding your
statements. You chose instead to address the mildly insulting comment.

Go back and address the meaningful comments, and disregard the last one.

You can do it!
--

Salmonbait

Reginald Etc.
 

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:49:47 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
m...
Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs
here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of
mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole
in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest
seem to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when
you make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim
their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their
behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and
may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of
constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism
and the teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the
Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You
keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able
to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My
father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. --

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's
knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another
way to mock someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one
must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and
one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon
all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.
I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much
more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait


You really don't get it.

Yes, we get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

Yes.

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond to
those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we
aren't lucky enough to be kept men.


Looks like Uncle Sam keeps the retired Lt Colonel quite well.


Uncle Sam and the county. Yup, I'm getting the retirement I earned. And,
it's keeping me quite well. Along with the Social Security check, it'll go
a long way towards helping my grandkids also. That's what it's all about,
right?
--

Salmonbait

Reginald Etc.
 

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:51:03 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:30:25 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I
do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and
you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem
to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you
make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their
religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here
indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may
possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly
mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the
teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical
prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone.
--

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge
of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock
someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must
forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one
should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613
Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.
Harry does ridicule others.

I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait

You really don't get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

Yes, you were complaining to Tim about the way you were treated. You
complain that all these other people call you names and insult you, and
therefore you should return the behavior. If you didn't care, why would you
be so desirous of returning the behavior?

If you 'don't give a tinker's damn about the rest', then why try so hard to
insult, degrade, call names, or 'best' the 'rest'.

I'd never spend $850 on a desk chair. I'd rather put the money in the bank
for my grandkids' college expenses. If I had one, I'd surely not brag about
it.
--

Salmonbait

1. Your interpretation of my comments to Tim is incorrect.

2. You might consider working on others here. My position is perfectly
clear and will not change no matter how much hectoring you attempt.

3. It's tinker's dam, John. Not damn.

4. You take note of my desk chair with two new Toyotas, a new boat, and
a new travel trailer in your driveway, and many, many more grandchildren
than I have? Talk about hypocrisy.

I like the numbering system, it makes responding much simpler.

re 4. Is taking note of something insulting? What 'hypocrisy' did I
perform?

re 3. Thanks for the correction.

re 2. I've considered same. Your behavior is, in my opinion (and that of
many others you respect), the instigating factor. You claim it's because of
your politics. That is false.

re 1. My interpretation is accurate. If, in your opinion, it is incorrect,
please try to correct it.
--

Salmonbait

Reginald Etc.
 

Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs
here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of
mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole
in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest
seem to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when
you make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim
their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their
behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and
may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of
constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism
and the teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the
Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You
keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able
to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My
father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. --

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's
knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another
way to mock someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one
must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and
one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon
all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.
Harry does ridicule others.
I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much
more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait

You really don't get it.
Yes, we get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?
Yes.

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.
Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond to
those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.
We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we
aren't lucky enough to be kept men.


Looks like Uncle Sam keeps the retired Lt Colonel quite well.

Why don't you ask the retired Lt. Colonel what he had to do to get kept
so well by the Uncle Sam.

For my father to earn his retirement after 26 years of service, retiring
as an Navy Commander. He spent 9 of the first 14 years of his career and
marriage at sea or on foreign soil, unaccompanied. Four of his five
children were born during this time too. We lived in 6 different places
from Hawaii to Alexandria VA during those 14 years. Crossing the USA
three times. The last 12 were spent navigating a desk in the DC area.

Military retirees have earned their retirement pay. And, John like many
military retirees could have gone into government contracting and made a
fortuned but, he decided to continue in public service and became a
substitute teacher.

Reginald Etc.
 

Boater wrote:

4. You take note of my desk chair with two new Toyotas, a new boat, and
a new travel trailer in your driveway, and many, many more grandchildren
than I have? Talk about hypocrisy.


I think we have found the root of the hostility and it is jealously.

Reginald Etc.
 

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

4. You take note of my desk chair with two new Toyotas, a new boat,
and a new travel trailer in your driveway, and many, many more
grandchildren than I have? Talk about hypocrisy.


I think we have found the root of the hostility and it is jealously.


I think you are too dimwitted to analyze others.

Reginald Etc.
 

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:05:12 -0500, BAR wrote:

Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs
here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of
mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole
in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest
seem to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when
you make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim
their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their
behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and
may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of
constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism
and the teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the
Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You
keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able
to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My
father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. --

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's
knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another
way to mock someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one
must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and
one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon
all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.
Harry does ridicule others.
I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much
more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait

You really don't get it.
Yes, we get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?
Yes.

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.
Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond to
those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.
We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we
aren't lucky enough to be kept men.


Looks like Uncle Sam keeps the retired Lt Colonel quite well.

Why don't you ask the retired Lt. Colonel what he had to do to get kept
so well by the Uncle Sam.

For my father to earn his retirement after 26 years of service, retiring
as an Navy Commander. He spent 9 of the first 14 years of his career and
marriage at sea or on foreign soil, unaccompanied. Four of his five
children were born during this time too. We lived in 6 different places
from Hawaii to Alexandria VA during those 14 years. Crossing the USA
three times. The last 12 were spent navigating a desk in the DC area.

Military retirees have earned their retirement pay. And, John like many
military retirees could have gone into government contracting and made a
fortuned but, he decided to continue in public service and became a
substitute teacher.

I became a 'real' teacher. Only after retiring as a teacher ('cause ten
years was all I could take) did I take up subbing.
--

Salmonbait

Reginald Etc.
 

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:06:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
4. You take note of my desk chair with two new Toyotas, a new boat, and
a new travel trailer in your driveway, and many, many more grandchildren
than I have? Talk about hypocrisy.

I think we have found the root of the hostility and it is jealously.

I couldn't see the connection between grandchildren and the Toyotas.
--

Salmonbait


Well, you could have put the money you spent or are spending on the
Toyotas into an educational savings account for your grandchildren.
There's probably more tied up in those cars than I have tied up in my
chair.

Reginald Etc.
 

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:06:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:

4. You take note of my desk chair with two new Toyotas, a new boat, and
a new travel trailer in your driveway, and many, many more grandchildren
than I have? Talk about hypocrisy.


I think we have found the root of the hostility and it is jealously.

I couldn't see the connection between grandchildren and the Toyotas.
--

Salmonbait

Reginald Etc.
 

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:

4. You take note of my desk chair with two new Toyotas, a new boat,
and a new travel trailer in your driveway, and many, many more
grandchildren than I have? Talk about hypocrisy.


I think we have found the root of the hostility and it is jealously.


I think you are too dimwitted to analyze others.

I think you don't like the truth.