Reginald Etc.
 

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:51:39 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I
do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and
you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem
to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you
make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their
religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here
indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may
possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly
mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the
teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical
prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone.
--

Salmonbait

It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but
doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways
is worth mocking.

I'm sure you recognize this:

Lk. 6.27-36
38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a
tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21
39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall
smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let
him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy
neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do
good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use
you, and persecute you;
45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for
he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain
on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even
the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do
not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is
perfect. Deut. 18.13


See any relevance?

Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of
"Religious Judge" upon ye?

Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past
several days:

******************************
38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a
tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21
39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall
smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
*****************************

You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post
cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there
is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be
insulting, in any case.
--

Salmonbait


I'm not proclaiming my religious beliefs by quoting lines attributed to
your saviour. I'm quoting *your* religious beliefs, and suggesting that
a true believer would follow them. That is all.

You don't know my religious beliefs.

You know only that I respect the beliefs of others.

Are you quoting lines with which you disagree?
--

Salmonbait

Reginald Etc.
 

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I
do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and
you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem
to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you
make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their
religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here
indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may
possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly
mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the
teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical
prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone.
--

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge
of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock
someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must
forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one
should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613
Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.

I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait


You really don't get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

Reginald Etc.
 

Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs
here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of
mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole
in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time
to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the
loudest seem to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when
you make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim
their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their
behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha
and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of
constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to
Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the
Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You
keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been
able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My
father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. --

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes
their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't
turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone.
Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's
knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just
another way to mock someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says
one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not
demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7
years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain
fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year.
Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left
in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.
I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait


You really don't get it.

Yes, we get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

Yes.

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond
to those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we
aren't lucky enough to be kept men.

Reginald Etc.
 

On Dec 21, 10:30*am, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
. ..

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I
do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and
you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem
to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you
make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their
religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here
indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may
possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly
mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the
teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical
prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone.
--

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. *He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. *They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. *Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge
of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock
someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. *One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must
forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one
should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. *Based upon all 613
Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.

I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait

You really don't get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then leave. Please.

Reginald Etc.
 

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs
here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends
of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a
hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time
to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the
loudest seem to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound
when you make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim
their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their
behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha
and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of
constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to
Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the
Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'?
You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been
able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My
father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. --

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes
their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't
turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone.
Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's
knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just
another way to mock someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says
one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not
demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7
years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to
remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that
year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant
Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing
more, nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.
I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much
more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait


You really don't get it.

Yes, we get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

Yes.

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond
to those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we
aren't lucky enough to be kept men.

Indeed, I don't know why any smart, educated sensible woman would want
to keep something like you around.

Reginald Etc.
 

On Dec 21, 10:00*am, wrote:
On Dec 21, 9:51*am, Boater wrote:





Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
. ..

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I
do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and
you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem
to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you
make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their
religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here
indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may
possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly
mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the
teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical
prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone.
--

Salmonbait

It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but
doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways
is worth mocking.

I'm sure you recognize this:

*Lk. 6.27-36
38 * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a
tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21
39 * * but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall
smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 * * And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let
him have thy cloak also.
41 * * And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 * * Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43 * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy
neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy.
44 * * But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do
good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use
you, and persecute you;
45 * * that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for
he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain
on the just and on the unjust.
46 * * For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even
the publicans the same?
47 * * And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do
not even the publicans so?
48 * * Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is
perfect. Deut. 18.13

See any relevance?

Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of
"Religious Judge" upon ye?

Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past
several days:

******************************
38 * * * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a
tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21
39 * * * * but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall
smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
*****************************

You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post
cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there
is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be
insulting, in any case.
--

Salmonbait

I'm not proclaiming my religious beliefs by quoting lines attributed to
your saviour. I'm quoting *your* religious beliefs, and suggesting that
a true believer would follow them. That is all.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Loogy only believes in you, Harry. His life consists of following you
around, waiting till you fart...then finding some way to call you a
liar for farting... What an obsessed idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Your infatuation with me is getting kind of scary. I realize that you
look up to me because I'm more than you can ever aspire to be, but
man, give it a break.

Reginald Etc.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs
here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of
mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole
in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest
seem to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when
you make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim
their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their
behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and
may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of
constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism
and the teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the
Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You
keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able
to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My
father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. --

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's
knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another
way to mock someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one
must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and
one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon
all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.
I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much
more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait


You really don't get it.

Yes, we get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

Yes.

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond to
those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we
aren't lucky enough to be kept men.


Looks like Uncle Sam keeps the retired Lt Colonel quite well.

Reginald Etc.
 

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:30:25 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I
do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and
you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem
to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you
make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their
religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here
indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may
possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly
mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the
teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical
prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone.
--

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge
of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock
someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must
forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one
should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613
Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.

I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait


You really don't get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

Yes, you were complaining to Tim about the way you were treated. You
complain that all these other people call you names and insult you, and
therefore you should return the behavior. If you didn't care, why would you
be so desirous of returning the behavior?

If you 'don't give a tinker's damn about the rest', then why try so hard to
insult, degrade, call names, or 'best' the 'rest'.

I'd never spend $850 on a desk chair. I'd rather put the money in the bank
for my grandkids' college expenses. If I had one, I'd surely not brag about
it.
--

Salmonbait

Reginald Etc.
 

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater
wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs
here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends
of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a
hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from
time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion
the loudest seem to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound
when you make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who
proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but
their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha
and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of
constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to
Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the
Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'?
You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been
able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My
father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. --

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes
their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used
by practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold
toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They
don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the
phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's
knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just
another way to mock someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says
one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not
demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7
years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to
remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on
that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no
Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing
more, nothing less.

Harry does ridicule others.
I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he
wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much
more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait


You really don't get it.

Yes, we get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

Yes.

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging
pleasantries and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

Yes, you give a tinker's damn. If you didn't care you wouldn't respond
to those you profess to not give a tinker's damn about.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

We would rather have a sugar momma like yours buy it for us. But, we
aren't lucky enough to be kept men.

Indeed, I don't know why any smart, educated sensible woman would want
to keep something like you around.

Nineteen years ago she, now my wife, saw in me the potential to provide
a good life for her and the children we may have. So far so good.

Reginald Etc.
 

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:30:25 -0500, Boater wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I
do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and
you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground.

No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here.

You discuss everyone else's.

Eisboch

No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to
time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem
to be proclaimers only.
Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you
make statements like this.
Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their
religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here
indicates they don't walk the walk.
You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may
possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly
mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the
teachings of the Dali Lama.

I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical
prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama.

It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers.
Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep
using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to
provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two.

Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's
second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone.
--

Salmonbait
Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited
knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their
interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by
practicing Jews.

At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and
Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not
follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews".

There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet
paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn
on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this
the majority of practicing Jews, NO.

Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge
of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock
someone's beliefs.

According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they
could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one
must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand
repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must
forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one
should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613
Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world.

Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more,
nothing less.
Harry does ridicule others.

I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't
being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more
nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross
posting.

But, that's just my opinion.

I wish I had an $850 desk chair.
--

Salmonbait

You really don't get it.

You actually think I care about the behavior in this group?

There are a few posters here with whom I enjoy exchanging pleasantries
and quips. I don't give a tinker's dam about the rest.

If you want a good desk chair, buy one.

Yes, you were complaining to Tim about the way you were treated. You
complain that all these other people call you names and insult you, and
therefore you should return the behavior. If you didn't care, why would you
be so desirous of returning the behavior?

If you 'don't give a tinker's damn about the rest', then why try so hard to
insult, degrade, call names, or 'best' the 'rest'.

I'd never spend $850 on a desk chair. I'd rather put the money in the bank
for my grandkids' college expenses. If I had one, I'd surely not brag about
it.
--

Salmonbait

1. Your interpretation of my comments to Tim is incorrect.

2. You might consider working on others here. My position is perfectly
clear and will not change no matter how much hectoring you attempt.

3. It's tinker's dam, John. Not damn.

4. You take note of my desk chair with two new Toyotas, a new boat, and
a new travel trailer in your driveway, and many, many more grandchildren
than I have? Talk about hypocrisy.