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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait |
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Boater wrote:
BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Doesn't everyone have to be a self-proclaimed believer of their respective faith? Bar mitzvahs, Catholic confirmation, protestant baptism. Part of Catholic Mass is the Profession of Faith. You recite it willingly. If you don't want to don't go to Mass. Your problem is that you are judgmental of others in religious and non-religious areas of their lives. You have a rigid view of the world and if someone does fall into to your rigid framework of behavior then your berate and ridicule them. We are curious why you do this and what event in your life caused you behave like this? |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? |
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On Dec 20, 11:06*am, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Dec 20, 9:52 am, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message .... On Dec 20, 8:44 am, Jim wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... On the odd chance you really don't know, it means: Eat **** And Die. Got it? Lovely mood there this morning, Harry. Eisboch I'm beginning to feel a tad sorry for the poor guy. He doesn't seem to be a very happy fellow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, he doesn't have any friends, he's so insecure about what he does have that he has to make up wild lies about his boat, his house, his land, his vehicles, even his wife. The only person here that buys into all of those lies is Don. That in a nutshell is why he's such an angry fat old fart. ************************************************* liar- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, so you DON'T buy into all of Harry's lies? Interesting..... Oh, and that low life vulgar idiot slammer will be proud of you, but too bad you can't think of anything original, but I guess that's why you have your lover/master/clone Harry. ************************************************** ********* You really need to get help for your 'male lovers' fetish.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't have a male lovers fetish. I do, however find it interesting in a sick sort of way how you follow Harry like a little puppy, and have taken to acting just like him! |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of "Religious Judge" upon ye? Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past several days: ****************************** 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ***************************** You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be insulting, in any case. -- Salmonbait |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. |
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Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? If you don't follow these teachings how can you expect others to follow them. |
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Salmonbait wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: Lk. 6.27-36 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of "Religious Judge" upon ye? Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past several days: ****************************** 38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ***************************** You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be insulting, in any case. -- Salmonbait I'm not proclaiming my religious beliefs by quoting lines attributed to your saviour. I'm quoting *your* religious beliefs, and suggesting that a true believer would follow them. That is all. |
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On Dec 21, 9:51*am, Boater wrote:
Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:25:43 -0500, Boater wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message . .. D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait It's really easy, John. Anyone who professes to be a "Christian," but doesn't follow their saviour's teachings in most of the important ways is worth mocking. I'm sure you recognize this: *Lk. 6.27-36 38 * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 * * but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 * * And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. 41 * * And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 * * Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43 * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, Lev. 19.18 and hate thine enemy. 44 * * But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 * * that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 * * For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 * * And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 * * Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Deut. 18.13 See any relevance? Are ye a judge, Harry? Has your religion seen fit to bestow the title of "Religious Judge" upon ye? Here, this is something I've been trying to get across to you for the past several days: ****************************** 38 * * * * ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: Ex. 21.24 · Lev. 24.20 · Deut. 19.21 39 * * * * but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. ***************************** You keep 'judging' the faith, beliefs, and practices of others, post cut'n'pastes from your bible, but don't practice same. I'm thinking there is a name for people who do that, but I can't recall it. It would be insulting, in any case. -- Salmonbait I'm not proclaiming my religious beliefs by quoting lines attributed to your saviour. I'm quoting *your* religious beliefs, and suggesting that a true believer would follow them. That is all.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Loogy only believes in you, Harry. His life consists of following you around, waiting till you fart...then finding some way to call you a liar for farting... What an obsessed idiot. |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:39:55 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote: Salmonbait wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:57:34 -0500, Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: BAR wrote: Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... D. No, I am *not" discussing my personal religious beliefs here. I do happen to know Observant Jews, they are friends of mind, and you obviously don't know Observant Jews from a hole in the ground. No, you don't discuss your personal religious beliefs here. You discuss everyone else's. Eisboch No, I don't. I discuss religions, and I do point out from time to time that many of those who proclaim their religion the loudest seem to be proclaimers only. Do you realize how arrogant and just plain stupid you sound when you make statements like this. Actions speak louder than words. Most of those here who proclaim their religious beliefs the loudest talk the talk but their behavior here indicates they don't walk the walk. You have often professed an interest in the teachings of Buddha and may possibly be a follower of the Dali Lama. You actions of constantly mocking and judging other beliefs is contrary to Buddhism and the teachings of the Dali Lama. I'm also interested in the teachings of Jesus and many of the Biblical prophets, and I certainly am a fan of the Dalai Lama. It's not the "beliefs" I mock, it's the self-proclaimed believers. Harry, could you give an example of 'self-proclaimed believers'? You keep using the term, and I've asked for examples, but you've not been able to provide any. I even offered a suggestion or two. Does your religious faith encourage the 'mocking' of others? My father's second wife was Jewish, but I've never known her to mock anyone. -- Salmonbait Harry's definition of an Observant Jew is based upon his limited knowledge of a few Orthodox Jews he knew as a child. He believes their interpretation of the Torah is the only interpretation used by practicing Jews. At no time did i think my little jokes about Christmas carols and Chinese food would be a basis for trying to defend those who do not follow the same practices as "Harry's Jews". There are Orthodox Jews who actually have to tear and prefold toilet paper before Sabbath just so they work on the Sabbath. They don't turn on or off a light on the Sabbath, they don't answer the phone. Is this the majority of practicing Jews, NO. Even in Israel, 80% of the Jews will drive on Sabbath. Harry's knowledge of Judaism and definition of a Observant Jew is just another way to mock someone's beliefs. According to Harry one would have to follow all 613 Mitzvot or they could not be considered an Observant Jew. One of the Mitzvot says one must not charge an Israeli interest on a loan, one says do not demand repayment of a loan from someone who is poor, and every 7 years one must forgive all debts, one must allow all fields to remain fallow and one should not harvest from trees or vines on that year. Based upon all 613 Mitzvot there probably are no Observant Jews left in the world. Harry knowledge of religion is used to ridicule others, nothing more, nothing less. Harry does ridicule others. I think that's part of his complaint to Tim the other day that he wasn't being treated nicely. I really believe that he would be treated much more nicely if he stopped his ridicule, name-calling, insulting, and cross posting. But, that's just my opinion. I wish I had an $850 desk chair. -- Salmonbait |
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