Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 04:02:05 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Can we get back to talking about Supreme Beings - meaning of course,
me.

It is all about me you know.
Some Supreme Being. You called the election wrong.
Maybe not. Some of your own party members are complaining that it is
starting to look like four more years of the same.

Interesting - there is going to be a "scandal" during his first 100
days.

Statute provides that those born on foreign soil to servicemen or
diplomats serving are "natural born -- which is what makes John McCain
"natural born."

That same statute the Nationality Act of 1940 (amended in 19652)
requires the U.S. Citizen to have resided in the U.S. for ten years,
five of which were after the age of 14.

Ann Dunham was only 18 when BHO was born.

Obama's father lived in the US less than a year.

Obama's biological father was a Kenyan citizen and Obama's mother a
U.S. citizen who was not old enough to register Obama's birth in
Hawaii as a "natural born" United States Citizen.

It's technical I know, and a little silly I readily admit, but...

More political hay has been made out of technical legal issues which
are totally silly - it's a politicians stock-in-trade.


Oh, not this crap again. The right-wing fruitcakes have been working the
"Obama is not a natural born citizen" crap for months. The Supremes
refused to cert such a case yesterday and will do the same with the Berg
case.

Get over it. Your boy and his brainless bimbo lost.

Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 04:02:05 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Can we get back to talking about Supreme Beings - meaning of course,
me.

It is all about me you know.
Some Supreme Being. You called the election wrong.
Maybe not. Some of your own party members are complaining that it is
starting to look like four more years of the same.

Interesting - there is going to be a "scandal" during his first 100
days.

Statute provides that those born on foreign soil to servicemen or
diplomats serving are "natural born -- which is what makes John McCain
"natural born."
That same statute the Nationality Act of 1940 (amended in 19652)
requires the U.S. Citizen to have resided in the U.S. for ten years,
five of which were after the age of 14.
Ann Dunham was only 18 when BHO was born.

Obama's father lived in the US less than a year.

Obama's biological father was a Kenyan citizen and Obama's mother a
U.S. citizen who was not old enough to register Obama's birth in
Hawaii as a "natural born" United States Citizen.
It's technical I know, and a little silly I readily admit, but...

More political hay has been made out of technical legal issues which
are totally silly - it's a politicians stock-in-trade.


Oh, not this crap again. The right-wing fruitcakes have been working the
"Obama is not a natural born citizen" crap for months. The Supremes
refused to cert such a case yesterday and will do the same with the Berg
case.

Get over it. Your boy and his brainless bimbo lost.


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?

Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state
of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?

Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state
of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064

We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064

We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth
Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in
September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate
issued in August of 1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:19:43 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/
BREAKING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth
Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in
September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate
issued in August of 1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

Don't you think you might be getting a little paranoid? Put the above
two links together, and most reasonable people would conclude Obama was
born in Hawaii.

"BAR" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth Certificate
from the State of Washington too that was generated in September of 1961.
I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate issued in August of
1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

Maybe like my mother, there is no birth certificate. Doctor thought she was
not going to survive and never filed the BC. She fooled them. Turned 94
last week. Rural Nebraska.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?

Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state
of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064

We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

Letr's not get side tracked here - that's not the issue. It is a
legitimate certificate of birth - as far as it goes.

The problem is that the circumstances of certification are extra legal
as I stated.

Let's not get all icky ballooky about the certificate itself - it's
good.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?
Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state
of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

Letr's not get side tracked here - that's not the issue. It is a
legitimate certificate of birth - as far as it goes.

The problem is that the circumstances of certification are extra legal
as I stated.

Let's not get all icky ballooky about the certificate itself - it's
good.


Game over, Tom. Move on.

The Hawaii certificate is almost exactly the same as the one I got from
New Haven when I applied for a passport. Good enough is good enough is
good enough.

The Supremes are *not* going to cert any of these soreloserman cases.
Find another issue, like whether your party is really going to nominate
Sarah Palin in 2012.