On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:42:48 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:36:51 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:25:24 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


I am not the one doing the complaining about Obama. The complaints are
coming from your flock.

Are you sure? Those that are writing those articles, whose flock to
they belong to? Personally, I haven't heard any complaints, have you?

OK, OK, there is Tom. ;-)

YAY!!! Somebody loves me!!! :)

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 04:02:05 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Can we get back to talking about Supreme Beings - meaning of course,
me.

It is all about me you know.
Some Supreme Being. You called the election wrong.
Maybe not. Some of your own party members are complaining that it
is starting to look like four more years of the same.

Interesting - there is going to be a "scandal" during his first 100
days.

Statute provides that those born on foreign soil to servicemen or
diplomats serving are "natural born -- which is what makes John McCain
"natural born."
That same statute the Nationality Act of 1940 (amended in 19652)
requires the U.S. Citizen to have resided in the U.S. for ten years,
five of which were after the age of 14.
Ann Dunham was only 18 when BHO was born.

Obama's father lived in the US less than a year.

Obama's biological father was a Kenyan citizen and Obama's mother a
U.S. citizen who was not old enough to register Obama's birth in
Hawaii as a "natural born" United States Citizen.
It's technical I know, and a little silly I readily admit, but...

More political hay has been made out of technical legal issues which
are totally silly - it's a politicians stock-in-trade.


Oh, not this crap again. The right-wing fruitcakes have been working
the "Obama is not a natural born citizen" crap for months. The
Supremes refused to cert such a case yesterday and will do the same
with the Berg case.

Get over it. Your boy and his brainless bimbo lost.


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?


Yup...the right-wing fruitcakes...like Bertie.

BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?

Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the
state of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064

We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate.

What you want is not relevant.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:19:43 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/
BREAKING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth
Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in
September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate
issued in August of 1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

Don't you think you might be getting a little paranoid? Put the above
two links together, and most reasonable people would conclude Obama was
born in Hawaii.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:55 -0500, BAR wrote:


Does the rule of law mean anything? From where do the laws of the USA
come? I find it interesting that a lawyer, The Obama, is so ignorant of
the laws of the USA. What is he hiding regarding his birth?
Absolutely nothing, he has disclosed his birth certificate, and the state
of Hawaii has declared it legitimate.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar...ING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.

Letr's not get side tracked here - that's not the issue. It is a
legitimate certificate of birth - as far as it goes.

The problem is that the circumstances of certification are extra legal
as I stated.

Let's not get all icky ballooky about the certificate itself - it's
good.


Game over, Tom. Move on.

The Hawaii certificate is almost exactly the same as the one I got from
New Haven when I applied for a passport. Good enough is good enough is
good enough.

The Supremes are *not* going to cert any of these soreloserman cases.
Find another issue, like whether your party is really going to nominate
Sarah Palin in 2012.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:24 -0500, Boater
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:36:51 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:25:24 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


I am not the one doing the complaining about Obama. The complaints are
coming from your flock.
Are you sure? Those that are writing those articles, whose flock to
they belong to? Personally, I haven't heard any complaints, have you?

OK, OK, there is Tom. ;-)

Tom is just sore because his over-the-hill idea-less pseudorightie and
his dumb bimbo running mate lost big time.

And right there is the reason you are despised and reviled by all who
participate here.

And yes - I did say all.

You cannot, and are incapable of, discussing issues in a calm rational
manner without getting into personal insults and outrageous
statements. You can't keep up, so you resort to negativity.

Ask around Harry - I've often defended you in side conversations with
different participants, but sometimes when you post crap like this, it
becomes very hard to do.

You are nothing more than a slightly more literate slammer2. You are
all venom and spite just like slammer.

So, with that in mind, I'm through with you for a while.

Again.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:34:09 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:29:23 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:11:47 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Interesting - there is going to be a "scandal" during his first 100
days.
If there is going to be a scandal, it isn't going to be that one.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...ry/804684.html
I did say it was silly, but it's still a valid issue and it will be
reviewed at some point - it has to be because it's at the very core of
what is and isnt' an American.

I'm telling you - it's going to become an issue.

Besides, it's all in Congress's hands anyway - they can fix this
quickly and easily. However, the "scandal" will come from trying to
make that "fix".

It's going to happen.

Forgot to add this:

http://daveweigel.com/?p=2003


It's not a scandal. It's a right-wing erotic fantasy.

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:36:51 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:25:24 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


I am not the one doing the complaining about Obama. The complaints are
coming from your flock.
Are you sure? Those that are writing those articles, whose flock to they
belong to? Personally, I haven't heard any complaints, have you?

Actually yes.

To hear Mrs. Wave and her fellow travelers talk that is.

And read the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post.


Kos has participating bloggers from all over the political spectrum,
including the far, far left. It's what makes it interesting sometimes.
But the far lefties don't get the attention in the Democratic party that
the far righties get in the Republican party, because the Republican
party is mostly far righties these days. *White* far righties.

It isn't often one gets to see evolution in action. It is quite
pleasurable watching the Republican party being evolved out of existence.

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:19:43 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:09:58 -0500, BAR wrote:


http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/
BREAKING01/81031064
We have seen a computer generated piece of paper. What we want is a
photo copy of his birth certificate. I Was born just a couple of weeks
after The Obama in Washington State. I have both a computer generated
piece of paper and a photo copy of my birth certificate. They are not
one in the same.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html
That is the computer generated one. As I said, I have one of those from
the State of Washington. I also have a photo copy of my Birth
Certificate from the State of Washington too that was generated in
September of 1961. I want to see a photo copy of the birth certificate
issued in August of 1961 for The Obama.

Anyone can printout a piece of paper and put some stamps on it. But,
forging a document and embossing it with a 50 year old seal takes a real
professional.

Don't you think you might be getting a little paranoid? Put the above
two links together, and most reasonable people would conclude Obama was
born in Hawaii.


It's not paranoia; it's the Republican wet dream.

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:41:02 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:50:24 -0500, Boater
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 05:36:51 -0600, thunder wrote:

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:25:24 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


I am not the one doing the complaining about Obama. The complaints are
coming from your flock.
Are you sure? Those that are writing those articles, whose flock to
they belong to? Personally, I haven't heard any complaints, have you?

OK, OK, there is Tom. ;-)

Tom is just sore because his over-the-hill idea-less pseudorightie and
his dumb bimbo running mate lost big time.

And right there is the reason you are despised and reviled by all who
participate here.

And yes - I did say all.

You cannot, and are incapable of, discussing issues in a calm rational
manner without getting into personal insults and outrageous
statements. You can't keep up, so you resort to negativity.

Ask around Harry - I've often defended you in side conversations with
different participants, but sometimes when you post crap like this, it
becomes very hard to do.

You are nothing more than a slightly more literate slammer2. You are
all venom and spite just like slammer.

So, with that in mind, I'm through with you for a while.

Again.


Welcome to the club.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H