On Jul 28, 3:24*pm, Bruce in alaska wrote:
In article .com,
*Peter Bennett wrote:





The latest edition of Industry Canada's applicable document shows that
21B is used for Continuous Marine Broadcasts in all areas of Canada,
and makes no mention of 22B. (However, I have noticed that we don't
always do what this document says...)

With a radio in "Canada" mode, 22 will actually be 22A, as it is used
by the Coast Guard to talk to the public - you would need to use the
International mode to hear "22B".

Note: on the West Coast, the Canadian Coast Guard uses 83A rather than
22A to talk to the public, to avoid potential interference with the
USCG's use of 22A. *I don't know if the CCG in other areas has also
switched to 83A...

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI *
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca *
GPS and NMEA info:http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron:http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

before we get to much farther into this discussion, maybe we should
move AWAY from Channel Designators, that are different between countries
and numbering systems, and move on to FREQUENCIES, in Mhz.

21A = 157.050 Mhz
21B = 161.650 Mhz

22A = 157.100 Mhz
22B = 161.700 Mhz

23A = 157.150 Mhz
23B = 161.750 Mhz

83A = 157.175 Mhz
83B = 161.775 Mhz

--
Bruce in alaska
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Bruce,

I've been looking at these frequencies in my manual, and was surpised
to see that I had to set the radio to International mode, as opposed
to Canadian mode, to receive the B frequencies on my Standard Horizon
radio that the Canadian CG broadcasts.

-- Geoff

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:25:58 -0700 (PDT), GeoffSchultz
wrote:



Bruce,

I've been looking at these frequencies in my manual, and was surpised
to see that I had to set the radio to International mode, as opposed
to Canadian mode, to receive the B frequencies on my Standard Horizon
radio that the Canadian CG broadcasts.

-- Geoff

I would expect to find 21B and 83B among the weather channels - no
need to select "International" mode, then use the "normal" channel
select scheme to find the continuous marine broadcasts. The channel
list in my Icom 504 manual shows 21B (161.65 MHz) and 83B (161.775
MHz) as weather channels 8 and 9, respectively.

I happen to have a Standard Horizon GX2355 manual handy, an its
frequency list also shows 161.65 and 161.775 as Weather Channels 8 and
9.

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

On Jul 28, 10:18*pm, Peter Bennett wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:25:58 -0700 (PDT), GeoffSchultz

wrote:

Bruce,

I've been looking at these frequencies in my manual, and was surpised
to see that I had to set the radio to International mode, as opposed
to Canadian mode, to receive the B frequencies on my Standard Horizon
radio that the Canadian CG broadcasts.

-- Geoff

I would expect to find 21B and 83B among the weather channels - no
need to select "International" mode, then use the "normal" channel
select scheme to find the continuous marine broadcasts. *The channel
list in my Icom 504 manual shows 21B (161.65 MHz) and 83B (161.775
MHz) as weather channels 8 and 9, respectively.

I happen to have a Standard Horizon GX2355 manual handy, an its
frequency list also shows 161.65 and 161.775 as Weather Channels 8 and
9.

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI *
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca *
GPS and NMEA info:http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron:http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

Thanks for the info. This just makes you wonder how many people can't/
don't follow the weather to the assigned frequency when they append
"B" to the frequency. Are channels WX8 and WX9 fairly standard on VHF
radios? If so, wouldn't it make sense to say "83B or WX9 on many
radios"? It would be interesting to run an end-user test to see how
well their current text is understood.

-- Geoff

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:49:27 -0700 (PDT), GeoffSchultz
wrote:


Thanks for the info. This just makes you wonder how many people can't/
don't follow the weather to the assigned frequency when they append
"B" to the frequency. Are channels WX8 and WX9 fairly standard on VHF
radios? If so, wouldn't it make sense to say "83B or WX9 on many
radios"? It would be interesting to run an end-user test to see how
well their current text is understood.

-- Geoff

The appropriate technique for finding weather broadcast channels may
depend on where you are. Here in the Pacific Northwet (BC coast), I
just dial through all the weather channels til I find a usable signal
- that channel will almost certainly cover the area I am interested
in.

I could be highly scientific, and consult "Radio Aids to Marine
Navigation", and the channel list for my radio, to find the most
appropriate channel, but probably wouldn't get any better results.


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

On Jul 29, 10:18*pm, Peter Bennett wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:49:27 -0700 (PDT), GeoffSchultz

wrote:
Thanks for the info. *This just makes you wonder how many people can't/
don't follow the weather to the assigned frequency when they append
"B" to the frequency. *Are channels WX8 and WX9 fairly standard on VHF
radios? *If so, wouldn't it make sense to say "83B or WX9 on many
radios"? *It would be interesting to run an end-user test to see how
well their current text is understood.

-- Geoff

The appropriate technique for finding weather broadcast channels may
depend on where you are. *Here in the Pacific Northwet (BC coast), I
just dial through all the weather channels til I find a usable signal
- that channel will almost certainly cover the area I am interested
in.

I could be highly scientific, and consult "Radio Aids to Marine
Navigation", and the channel list for my radio, to find the most
appropriate channel, but probably wouldn't get any better results.

--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI *
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca *
GPS and NMEA info:http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron:http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

My point is that when the CG comes on 16 and tells people to go to 21B/
83B to hear the forecast, it would be interesting to see how many
people find the channel.
You may be "highly scientific", but that doesn't mean that the
majority of people are. If people can't
follow the frequency change, and a small change in the text could
solve that, then they should look at solving the problem. Maybe it
isn't a problem, but looking at
it couldn't hurt.

-- Geoff