Herodotus wrote:
Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics
at sea etc.

It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls
himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other.

Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of
their names.

I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or
"Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked
up from 3rd mate to command.

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.

Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed
with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain"
emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet?

If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the
romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong
and songkok for authenticity.

Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get
your face away from your coffee cup.

BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures,
top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in
Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney
University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new
eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted
plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair -
same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are
made in Japan with sprung hinges.

My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his
women but he wanted too much for each of them.

Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free
dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses.

It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very
safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl.

cheers
Peter

Well, I used to be called "Emporer". I thought "God" seemed a little
presumptious. My friends just call me "Larry". Without the "2".
Regardless of whether I'm sailing, powerboating, driving, or just walking.
--

Larry 2
rapp at lmr dot com

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:56:51 +1000, Herodotus
wrote:

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.

Don't have my boat yet Peter, though I am Master of my home.
But those here just call me Dad or Honey.
Those will do for now.
When I get my boat when at sea I want to be known as Ahoy There and
when ashore as Cream and Sugar?
BTW, do you add anything to your coffee?
In the Navy I drank it black while steaming, ashore it was always
European style, au latte, con leche, or con Cognac.
After the Navy I added cream (actually Half & Half) due to family
pressures, and now have fallen to non-dairy "cream" AND SUGAR, as the
lowly wife drinks it that way, and serves the same to the Master, who
doesn't care to argue about it, preferring a peaceful reign.
But I do make it that way now myself, out of habit.
I certainly hope I haven't disgraced myself to you by admitting all
that, coffee Admiral that you are. You may consider it mutiny.

--Vic

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:06:37 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:


Don't have my boat yet Peter, though I am Master of my home.
But those here just call me Dad or Honey.
Those will do for now.
When I get my boat when at sea I want to be known as Ahoy There and
when ashore as Cream and Sugar?
BTW, do you add anything to your coffee?
In the Navy I drank it black while steaming, ashore it was always
European style, au latte, con leche, or con Cognac.
After the Navy I added cream (actually Half & Half) due to family
pressures, and now have fallen to non-dairy "cream" AND SUGAR, as the
lowly wife drinks it that way, and serves the same to the Master, who
doesn't care to argue about it, preferring a peaceful reign.
But I do make it that way now myself, out of habit.
I certainly hope I haven't disgraced myself to you by admitting all
that, coffee Admiral that you are. You may consider it mutiny.

--Vic

Nice to hear your cheery voice again Vic.

Yes, I drink my coffee black but sometimes with friends in the city
may have a macciato or piccolo as a long black takes a while to cool
enough to drink and a short black goes too quickly. In Oztralia, a
long black is one shot of espresso in a standard cup topped up with
hot water (dopio is two shots).

However at home in Malaysia I surrender to my perversions and have
black coffee asian style (hot water poured through a gauze funnel)
with at least half an inch of sweetened condensed milk in the bottom -
called "kopi panas" (hot coffee). Without the milk it is "kopi o" and
iced coffee is "kopi ais" or "kopi o ais". We try to go to Chinese
establishments as generally they make the best coffee, the Malays make
the second best and the Indians make the worst.

I took a young nephew to a new mall at Bukit Tingi between Kuala
Lumpur and Port Kelang the other day and introduced him to tiramisu
cake and iced cappuccino. He was horrified that my esspresso coffee
cost 5 Ringit (AUD $1.50) as normally kopi costs between 1 and 1.30
Ringit. Has become addicted to tiramisu though.

As to you being master of your own home, your innocence and naivity is
quite endearing. Most of us live quite happily under that impression
though.

My regards to your owner and the other owners (if daughters) who have
you around their little fingers.
cheers,

Peter

For most small/recreational boaters, the term "Captain" only comes into
play when the crap hits the fan and you are describing the "person in
charge".
Many small/recreational boaters and Captains of small commercial vessels,
of long standing, are rightfully addressed as "Captain".
Most professional mariners of any size vessel, only require the title by
crew or those directly assoiated with their vessel's operation.....but this
is not hard and fast for all sizees of vessel.
I've never required that anyone call me "Captain", but Gawd help the stupid
SOB who called me by name if he/she was crew aboard a vessel that I was the
Master of, under my license.
Ashore, I never introduce myself as Captain SoandSo, unless I am in a
professional capacity or trying to intimidate/impress/cajol.
At any rate, many people call me "Captain" sometimes, others at all times,
and others, never......not all that important, as I generally take into
consideration the person, conditions, and state of my ego for the given
situation.

Just NEVER call me "Skipper"...that's a military term that has it's
justification within the military, but as far as I'm concerned, it's the
ultimate insult in the civilian world of professional mariners!!!

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:38:13 +1000, Herodotus
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:06:37 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:


Nice to hear your cheery voice again Vic.

Yes, I drink my coffee black but sometimes with friends in the city
may have a macciato or piccolo as a long black takes a while to cool
enough to drink and a short black goes too quickly. In Oztralia, a
long black is one shot of espresso in a standard cup topped up with
hot water (dopio is two shots).

However at home in Malaysia I surrender to my perversions and have
black coffee asian style (hot water poured through a gauze funnel)
with at least half an inch of sweetened condensed milk in the bottom -
called "kopi panas" (hot coffee). Without the milk it is "kopi o" and
iced coffee is "kopi ais" or "kopi o ais". We try to go to Chinese
establishments as generally they make the best coffee, the Malays make
the second best and the Indians make the worst.

I took a young nephew to a new mall at Bukit Tingi between Kuala
Lumpur and Port Kelang the other day and introduced him to tiramisu
cake and iced cappuccino. He was horrified that my esspresso coffee
cost 5 Ringit (AUD $1.50) as normally kopi costs between 1 and 1.30
Ringit. Has become addicted to tiramisu though.

Perhaps a bit more than I wanted there, since you've managed to make
me a bit jealous of your coffee experiences.
Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
But I did ask. Thank you for your response.

As to you being master of your own home, your innocence and naivity is
quite endearing. Most of us live quite happily under that impression
though.

My regards to your owner and the other owners (if daughters) who have
you around their little fingers.
cheers,

I thought I made clear my understanding of all that but perhaps I was
too subtle, forgetting I was speaking to somebody probably hopped up
on caffeine, and coiled to jump at conclusions. In any case thanks
for the reminder.
Cheers to you Cap (Coffee Admiral Peter.)

--Vic

On 2008-08-22 05:30:44 -0400, Vic Smith said:

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:38:13 +1000, Herodotus
As to you being master of your own home, your innocence and naivity is
quite endearing. Most of us live quite happily under that impression
though.

My regards to your owner and the other owners (if daughters) who have
you around their little fingers.
cheers,

I thought I made clear my understanding of all that but perhaps I was
too subtle, forgetting I was speaking to somebody probably hopped up
on caffeine, and coiled to jump at conclusions. In any case thanks
for the reminder.
Cheers to you Cap (Coffee Admiral Peter.)

If you look at his header, he was writing in the morning, his local time.

But what are you doing writing at this ungodly hour of the morning?
It's not even dawn-o'clock! I have an excuse as I've got a newsletter
that *must* go out a few hours from now.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:55:17 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

But what are you doing writing at this ungodly hour of the morning?
It's not even dawn-o'clock! I have an excuse as I've got a newsletter
that *must* go out a few hours from now.

My wife gets up at 4:15 every morning to prepare for work, and
sometimes I get up with her if I stir enough to smell the coffee.
But in this case I was up all night playing a video game, and checked
here when I tired of it. I'm retired and have no "hours."
So coffee makes anything possible.

--Vic

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:56:51 +1000, Herodotus
wrote:

Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed
with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain"
emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet?

I was given the title of "Capt" by an internet order form that
insisted I select an honorific. Nobody over 12 calls me "Mr" and I was
far too modest to select "Commodore." Now I automatically select
"Capt" whenever I order fishing or sailing supplies.

The federal goverment clearly thinks I'm a Captain since the United
States Postal Service delivers all that mail addressed to "Capt Cox."
However, when I told my dad I now outranked him, he muttered something
about having been a "real" Commander in the "real" Navy, so clearly
not all branches of the government are in agreement on this.
Chuck Cox
SynchroSystems - embedded computer design - http://synchro.com

my email is politician-proof, just remove the PORK

Herodotus wrote in
:

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.



WHOA! My captain, Geoffrey, who owns the Amel 41, handed me a nicely made,
embroidered ballcap that said "Captain Larry" across it with the boat's own
logo to show his appreciation for all the work I've helped put into her.

I told him, tongue in cheek, he was just looking for someone to blame if
there were a prosecution....(c;

When they call me "captain", I always tell them my title is "3rd Mate, Deck
and Engineering".....and I can't be blamed, your honor! "I was just
following cap'n's orders, your grace!"

If there's any more question, I show them my little bunk in the V-berth
over the forward air conditioner unit. Owner/Captains all sleep in the
spacious aft cabin...(c;

When it's broken, however, you'll find both of us in the bilge fixing it.

On Aug 21, 12:56 am, Herodotus wrote:
Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics
at sea etc.

It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls
himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other.

Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of
their names.

I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or
"Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked
up from 3rd mate to command.

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.

Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed
with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain"
emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet?

If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the
romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong
and songkok for authenticity.

Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get
your face away from your coffee cup.

BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures,
top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in
Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney
University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new
eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted
plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair -
same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are
made in Japan with sprung hinges.

My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his
women but he wanted too much for each of them.

Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free
dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses.

It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very
safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl.

cheers
Peter

Got a UML didn't get Capt.
the only time i get called capt is from the 4 to 8 year olds. (they
seem to think its cool)
I have never used or asked any one to use the term and the only job
I've ever had that introduced me as such i quit.
(i hate white shorts and shoulder boards)
if you are my crew my first name or skipper will work. if you are the
kneedeeps (cg) skipper works. if you are one of my preschoolers or
kinda garden kids and are on the boat with me almost anything will
work.

if you are some person on another boat my boat name works and if you
are onshore i am Mr. or if you know me well my first name.
if you call me Capt then i assume that you are a zero (officer) and as
such have never done a days work in your life. therefor you will get
no respect from me.