Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics
at sea etc.

It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls
himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other.

Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of
their names.

I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or
"Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked
up from 3rd mate to command.

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.

Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed
with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain"
emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet?

If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the
romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong
and songkok for authenticity.

Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get
your face away from your coffee cup.

BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures,
top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in
Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney
University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new
eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted
plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair -
same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are
made in Japan with sprung hinges.

My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his
women but he wanted too much for each of them.

Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free
dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses.

It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very
safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl.

cheers
Peter

In article ,
says...
Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics
at sea etc.

It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls
himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other.

Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of
their names.

I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or
"Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked
up from 3rd mate to command.

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.

Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed
with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain"
emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet?

If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the
romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong
and songkok for authenticity.

Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get
your face away from your coffee cup.

BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures,
top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in
Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney
University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new
eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted
plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair -
same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are
made in Japan with sprung hinges.

My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his
women but he wanted too much for each of them.

Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free
dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses.

It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very
safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl.

cheers
Peter


I have never heard a serious sailor refer to himself as
"Captain". I do know an individual who introduces others as Captain but
it appears to be more of an identification sort of thing. i.e., a Mister
can be anyone but a Captain is somebody on a boat. At least I assume
that is his intent as he has never, in my hearing, referred to himself
as "Captain" although he has been sailing for 50 years or more.

When I lived in Maine I heard people referred to as "Captain" but it was
used more as an honorific then an indication of position. Captain
Chester Carter, for example, was a highly respected boat builder who was
still building boats and fishing lobsters in his 80's, but the guy
running the lobster boat was just "Joe".

I've always considered the use of the term to be rather pretentious,
excepting, of course the captain of anything over 100 feet and the only
time I use the title is when signing paperwork when clearing into or out
of a port.

But I suppose if one's ego needs polishing then it is a valid reason for
using the term.

By the way, the correct term is Bruce Na Bangkok (na in Thai meaning of
or from).

Your teeth sound like a pretty good price. I got mine in Bangkok and the
entire process including pulling the old ones, X-rays, this and that and
the teeth ran me about S$ 600-700, as I remember.

How do you like the tinted lenses? I've had a pair or two and however
they tint the lenses always seems to give things a reddish glow. I
didn't like them at all. Of course I'm cheap and had dyed plastic
lenses.

By the way, I've discovered the "Gravity" a news reader much like Agent
but with better filtering. you can not only put people in the "Bozo
Bin" but you can exclude posts containing any work, name or phrase in
any part of the message. Not just the heading as Agent allows. I never
see certain individuals, or even a reference to them, using the new
reader.

--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:09:24 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

In article ,
says...
Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics
at sea etc.

It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls
himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other.

Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of
their names.

I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or
"Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked
up from 3rd mate to command.

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.

Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed
with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain"
emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet?

If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the
romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong
and songkok for authenticity.

Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get
your face away from your coffee cup.

BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures,
top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in
Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney
University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new
eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted
plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair -
same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are
made in Japan with sprung hinges.

My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his
women but he wanted too much for each of them.

Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free
dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses.

It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very
safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl.

cheers
Peter


I have never heard a serious sailor refer to himself as
"Captain". I do know an individual who introduces others as Captain but
it appears to be more of an identification sort of thing. i.e., a Mister
can be anyone but a Captain is somebody on a boat. At least I assume
that is his intent as he has never, in my hearing, referred to himself
as "Captain" although he has been sailing for 50 years or more.


"Captain", outside of the military, and in some business transactions,
is an honorific to be used by others to address you, not a prefix you
use yourself, unless it is in the course of conducting business where
knowing that you hold a Captain license is pertinent. It's not for
everyday use socially. Do Lawyers, (who are especially prone to self
promotion) run around introducing themselves as "Attorney Clarence
Darrow, Esq"? I don't think so.

I get addressed as Captain, when someone doesn't know my name, and
doesn't want to just say, "Hey you!", or even worse, "Dude!", but I
would never introduce myself that way. Actually, I don't even like
being addressed as Mister. I feel more comfortable being called by my
first name.

The guy who carries your suitcase at the hotel is the Bell Captain.

On Aug 20, 11:56*pm, Herodotus wrote:


Just curious as to *how many fellow boatees add the title in front of
their names.

cheers
Peter

Good day,

Two thoughts.......................

First, another reason to FLOSS DAILY begining as a child. Parents are
ver ignorant when it comes to raising children. To bad we dont have a
license for fertiity........


Second, Ive been reading a discssion board for profeesional mariners.
Mostly GOM and tug guys and the same question was raised. Who gets to
be called Captain? Several distinctins were made.
# Only Unlimited Masters Oceans can be called Capatin
# Others say if your License says Master regardless of tonage on it
AND you sail it then you can call ur self a Captain
# Another guy says, you have to sail as a captain with a LIcense to be
called captian if you dont sail the license then ur jus a mate.
# Still another thoght, even if you are a mear 100 grt master and the
coast guard is investigating your actions as master on a vesel they
most certainly WILL be calling you Captain.
# All agreed Recreational Saillors are Skipper until they have a USCG
Master License AND sail it for profit. ARG!

Bob

On Aug 20, 11:56*pm, Herodotus wrote:


cheers
Peter

I forgot to remend everyone to FLOSS DAILY ! ! !
Its cheeper in the long run

:=

All my teeth and only 4 fillings
Bob

Herodotus wrote:

Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics
at sea etc.

It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls
himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other.

I think generally it is how one refers to a guy on a boat when you
don't know his name.

The first time I ever heard it was the first time we took our boat out
by ourselves after we bought it and we were having trouble getting
back into the PO's slip because of a side wind and having to back in.
The people from the fuel dock said "Captain permission to come aboard"
before they leapt onto the boat from a neighboring boat.

There are, of course, Captains in the armed forces. I used to coach
swimming for a Navy base age group swim team. Some of the men who
were stationed there would help out and some even swam with the team
as masters swimmers. I did have one Captain - a ranking Navy officer
who helped with the young beginning swimmers.

There was also an Air Force Captain who swam masters swimming and he
would swim at some of the meets with us to get times he could submit
for the national meets. I think he set a national Masters long
course record in the 200 breast stroke. The kids would cheer him on by
saying "GO Captain". This caused some surprise among the parents who
were used to the rank of Captain in the Navy being quite a senior
rank. The kids called him Captain even after he made Major. "GO
Major" just didn't have the same ring to it.

Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of
their names.

I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or
"Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked
up from 3rd mate to command.

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.

Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed
with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain"
emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet?

If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the
romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong
and songkok for authenticity.

Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get
your face away from your coffee cup.

BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures,
top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in
Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney
University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new
eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted
plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair -
same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are
made in Japan with sprung hinges.

My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his
women but he wanted too much for each of them.

Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free
dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses.

It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very
safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl.

cheers
Peter

"Herodotus" wrote
I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter"

Fair enough, skipper...

Herodotus wrote:
Have just been looking at some Utube footage on sailboats, hydroponics
at sea etc.

It seems that every second nautically minded person posting calls
himself "Captain Jack" or Captain someone or other.

Just curious as to how many fellow boatees add the title in front of
their names.

I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter" or
"Captain Panaengotis". I'm not a professional mariner who has worked
up from 3rd mate to command.

Captain Bruce von Bangkok and Captain Larry or even Captain Vic de la
Kafe don't sound as ridiculous even if a little pompous.

Does the title come with a US boating qualification or is it assumed
with boat ownership as is the weekend boater's cap with "Captain"
emblazoned loudly and the gold leaves of an admiral of the fleet?

If so, I'll adopt the title of Nakoda - means the same but has the
romantic flavour of Joseph Conrad about it - and I'll wear a sarong
and songkok for authenticity.

Any thoughts Larry, Bruce, Captain Vic? - if you can manage to get
your face away from your coffee cup.

BTW, for those with less than perfect teeth. Just got new dentures,
top and bottom - quote in Sydney, Australia - AUD$2,000. My dentist in
Panglima Garang, Malaysia (between Banting and Kelang) who is Sydney
University trained charged RM 700 - AUD $214. I also bought new
eyeglasses for myopia and astigmatism - first pair including tinted
plastic lenses, script and hardening coating - AUD $60. Second pair -
same but bifocals - AUD $40. They are not cheap looking frames and are
made in Japan with sprung hinges.

My dentist had three receptionists/nurses. I offered to buy one of his
women but he wanted too much for each of them.

Work out the price of a holiday to Malaysia with effectively free
dental care (crowns, caps dentures, fillings etc) and eyeglasses.

It may be a developing country but is not third world and is very
safe, even for people who speak poor English with a slow drawl.

cheers
Peter

Well, I used to be called "Emporer". I thought "God" seemed a little
presumptious. My friends just call me "Larry". Without the "2".
Regardless of whether I'm sailing, powerboating, driving, or just walking.
--

Larry 2
rapp at lmr dot com

In article ,
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote:

"Herodotus" wrote
I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter"

Fair enough, skipper...

I can go with 'Skipper' as it's informal but accurate.

'Captain' has an authority that extends beyond a boat. IMO. And that
makes me uncomfortable whether applied to me or by anyone else.

--
Molesworth

Molesworth wrote:
In article ,
"Ernest Scribbler" wrote:

"Herodotus" wrote
I simply cannot imagine introducing myself as "Captain Peter"
Fair enough, skipper...

I can go with 'Skipper' as it's informal but accurate.

'Captain' has an authority that extends beyond a boat. IMO. And that
makes me uncomfortable whether applied to me or by anyone else.



And, of course, if you have a charter boat, your fares are naturally
going to call you Captain and you should refer to yourself as Captain
to make clear who is in command.
Gordon