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I am going to see this boat tomorrow http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F156297 Van de Stadt designed 2 = 2 Diesel Yacht re-engined 2005 with brand new Volvo MD1, new(2005) stainless steel fuel tank, new sea toilet with 2006 fitted sea valves. NASA echo sounder, well fitted out with usual fittings, sails in good condition, Includes BIC dinghy I can assume that the engine is okay I will get the man to start it from cold for me how do I check the cutlass gland I understand they get sloppy How do I check that the bilge keels are not about to fall off how do I check that the rudder will not fall off are there any known leak points on these boats the rigging, mast, sails etc I assume I can judge for myself do these boats suffer from roof compression I have access to a drying mooring for the winter - on soft Salcombe mud will the boat be happy until Christmas Dylan |
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"dylan winter" wrote in message
ups.com... Friends I am going to see this boat tomorrow http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F156297 Van de Stadt designed 2 = 2 Diesel Yacht re-engined 2005 with brand new Volvo MD1, new(2005) stainless steel fuel tank, new sea toilet with 2006 fitted sea valves. NASA echo sounder, well fitted out with usual fittings, sails in good condition, Includes BIC dinghy Nice looking boat... I can assume that the engine is okay I will get the man to start it from cold for me This won't tell you much, except that it starts. You could get an oil analysis for about $20 US. how do I check the cutlass gland I understand they get sloppy Cutlass bearing? You really have to haul the boat for this. If the boat is on the hard, you can try and move the prop shaft by hand back and forth, up and down. If it moves, then the bearing probably needs to be replaced... but how are you going to start the engine if the boat is on the hard as in the picture? How do I check that the bilge keels are not about to fall off Again, the boat needs to be on the hard... then, it's a matter of inspection. On some boats, a gelcoat "smile" isn't a structural issue. On others, it is. how do I check that the rudder will not fall off Same answer. Better question... is there water in the rudder? are there any known leak points on these boats Don't know this boat... can't comment. the rigging, mast, sails etc I assume I can judge for myself Do you have experience inspecting the standing rigging? If not, it's not always obvious if there's a problem. Sail inspection should be fairly obvious. do these boats suffer from roof compression No idea. I have access to a drying mooring for the winter - on soft Salcombe mud will the boat be happy until Christmas Dylan -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Thanks for cutlass advice
boat is ashore we can run a hose pipe into the intake for the engine to keep it cool all I want to do is to hear it start water in the rudder - hmmmm think its wood Dylan |
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"dylan winter" wrote in message
ps.com... Thanks for cutlass advice boat is ashore we can run a hose pipe into the intake for the engine to keep it cool all I want to do is to hear it start water in the rudder - hmmmm think its wood Dylan Ah... ok. Sounds like you've got in control then... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:51:17 -0700, dylan winter
wrote: all I want to do is to hear it start That's a mistake. You really need to see it running under heavy load to assess the cooling system and other potential issues like leakage, vibration, loose engine mounts, etc. |
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don't think bloke will let me launch it to test it under load
will have to take a chance but assume as long as it starts, runs pretty smoothly and does not seem to threaten to shake itself off the engine mounts then that is a good start D |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:47:25 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: but how are you going to start the engine if the boat is on the hard as in the picture? Two possible answers. First, starting the engine and running it briefly with no cooling water isn't going to let the engine get warm enough to damage it. Any decent surveyor surveying a boat on the hard will do that. Second, if you need to run it longer get a bucket of cold water and stick the cooling water intake in the bucket. I do it every year when changing the oil after hauling. Certainly true. I just don't know of a boat owner who would allow someone to do it. There's always a risk of overheating/damage. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:56:12 -0700, dylan winter
wrote: don't think bloke will let me launch it to test it under load Then find another bloke and boat, or insist on an escrow account to be used for hidden damage. |
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dylan winter wrote:
Friends I am going to see this boat tomorrow http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F156297 Van de Stadt designed 2 = 2 Diesel Yacht re-engined 2005 with brand new Volvo MD1, new(2005) stainless steel fuel tank, new sea toilet with 2006 fitted sea valves. NASA echo sounder, well fitted out with usual fittings, sails in good condition, Includes BIC dinghy Check with Volvo whether the MD1 was available new in 2005. I could be wrong but the Volvos were named "2000 series" since 1985 (or earlier) and I didn't think they carried on making the MD series after that. Hope I'm wrong! Dennis. |
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Dylan,
Boats are expensive. In the US there is a profession known as the Boat Surveyor. Perhaps there is something similar where you are. It sounds as if you are about to buy a boat without having the ability to make sound judgements. Perhaps you would like to buy a used car as well, I'd be happy to sell you one. Dave M. |
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