On Sun, 27 May 2007 20:09:01 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

What about Building 7? Fire caused that one to fall down too?

Building 7 contained a command center for the City of New York as well
as a number of large data centers and trading floors. All of them had
stand by diesel generators and large amounts of stored diesel fuel.
The building interior caught fire from flaming debris when the north
tower came down. Eventually the stored diesel fuel caught fire also
which overwhelmed the steel skeletal structure.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 20:09:01 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

What about Building 7? Fire caused that one to fall down too?

Building 7 contained a command center for the City of New York as well
as a number of large data centers and trading floors. All of them had
stand by diesel generators and large amounts of stored diesel fuel.
The building interior caught fire from flaming debris when the north
tower came down. Eventually the stored diesel fuel caught fire also
which overwhelmed the steel skeletal structure.


Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.

On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:31 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.

You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:31 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.

You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?

On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, KLC Lewis wrote:


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not
exactly the same thing is it?

You might want to look at the following pictures. It doesn't look like
the steel held up very well.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/art.../a/2007/04/29/
BAGVOPHQU46.DTL

On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

... diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?



Quite so: concrete clad steel has a much better fire-rating than bare
steel. Stout timber columns have better resistance than bare steel,
for that matter.
But the achilles heel of concrete reinforced with steel is at the
fixings. Bare steel.....

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:31 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.

You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?


Steel is steel, heat it hot enough, it weakens. The evidence is there
for all to see.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:31 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.

You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.


Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?


Steel is steel, heat it hot enough, it weakens. The evidence is there
for all to see.


Exactly so. Thermite would do it -- diesel would not. The evidence is there
for all to see.

On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:18:32 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Thermite would do it -- diesel would not.

Nonsense.

On Mon, 28 May 2007 22:18:32 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 28 May 2007 17:57:07 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:36:31 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Diesel fuel burns at temperatures high enough to soften steel and cause
buildings to fall into their own footprints? From now on, I weld with
diesel.

You can believe what you want, and weld with it also, but diesel will
definitely burn hot enough to weaken steel. There have been numerous
incidents where tanker trucks have caught fire following an accident
and caused the structural collapse of a highway overpass.

Hiway overpasses built of steel reinforced concrete, that is. Not exactly
the same thing is it?

Steel is steel, heat it hot enough, it weakens. The evidence is there
for all to see.

Exactly so. Thermite would do it -- diesel would not. The evidence is there
for all to see.

No - thermite wouldn't do it. Thermite's advantage is that the heat
has to be contained to reach temperature - like in welding rails or
specialized shapes. It thermite is exposed, the heat disappates and
the reaction disappears. I would think a welder would know that.

Next thing, "Truthers" will be claiming that WTC 7 and the the Towers
were brought down by tachyon beams routed through the deflector dish
of an Klingon War Bird who were hired by the Bush Administration so he
could have a pretext to go to war with Iraq.

Morons.