Wilbur ,, you are once again absolutely right on. Women on a sailboat?

What a waste of good pussy.

No wonder we haven't dropped any nukes lately. What the heck is happening
to this country.

Sailing is a man's sport. Period. We men need our "time" away. Doing
men's things; farting, drinking excessively,
wearing panty hose, putting on lipstick, mooning other boats, .... just
being MEN.

At the end of a hard day at sea, we want nothing more than a cold drink, a
hot piece of ass, and some food.

That is where we need our women. At the yacht club picnic area. By the
time we arrive they have been drinking
wine for hours. Most are so drunk, they can not stand up straight. So, we
do what men have been doing since the first yacht club was started; we take
advantage of the situation, screw someone's girlfriend, or wife. Yes!
There is nothing more pleasureable than doing the wife of the bank president
or having the good fortune to have Becky, the dock girl, sucking your
pecker.

Dressed in our blue blazers, with white pants, a Harveys Bristol Cream in
one hand, and a good cigar in the other, we get to enjoy our time together
talking about the important matters such as Biff's education or Tyler's new
black girlfriend.

I would rather be run down by a tramp steamer than put up with the constant
whine of an unreliable crewmate.

On a long voyage, there just isn't anything more manly than sitting next to
John, your accountant, and realizing you have always had a crush on him.
The two of you under the stars, watching the compass, ........

Reminds me of this movie about sheep farming ... never could figure out why
the sheep were so happy.

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...
As a general rule, women cannot be trusted without supervision aboard a
sailing vessel. ...

Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with
many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out
there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the
local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that
they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level.


Oh, I'm not talking about some ridiculous varsity sport. I'm talking about
coastal or off shore cruising where watches are taken so one or the other
partner may grab some sleep. If you're honest, you will not help but
notice there are far more men lone-handing than women. Is it because men
would rather sail alone? In a few cases that may well be true but, for the
most part, men who would dearly love to find a trustworthy sailing partner
of the opposite sex cannot fine one because women simply are not
interested. What kind of a life is living aboard a small yacht for a woman
anyway? It's the very antithesis of what womanhood is all about these
days. Gone are the days when the majority of women were more interested in
being a helpmate for their husband than being a beauty queen set upon a
throne for the whole world to admire. Overwhelming vanity and hedonism is
what the modern-day woman embodies. Even the paltry few of those who are
interested in yachts and cruising seem to be looking for a short cruise
and not some long-term cruising lifestyle. Hence. they just don't take
sailing seriously long enough to develop into skilled sailors. Those are
the facts. Keep trusting your Maryann. One of these days, probably in the
near future, she will let you down. The odds are very good that she will,
at least.

Wilbur Hubbard

" wrote in
oups.com:

Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with
many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out
there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the
local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that
they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level.



I agree....as long as the waves are small, the wind is light and the loads
aren't heavy....or, as in the sailing league, the boat is small.

At sea, in heavy weather, my 255 pound ass isn't big enough much of the
time. I can't imagine a woman trying to get the main down in a 40 knot
gale with rain pounding her and the deck boiling up around her. That's
just not right, women's lib or no women's lib. She'll never be as strong
as a man....sorry.

Thinking otherwise, though politically wonderful, is foolhardy and
dangerous.

Larry
--

"Larry" wrote in message
...
" wrote in
oups.com:

Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with
many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out
there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the
local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that
they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level.



I agree....as long as the waves are small, the wind is light and the loads
aren't heavy....or, as in the sailing league, the boat is small.

At sea, in heavy weather, my 255 pound ass isn't big enough much of the
time. I can't imagine a woman trying to get the main down in a 40 knot
gale with rain pounding her and the deck boiling up around her. That's
just not right, women's lib or no women's lib. She'll never be as strong
as a man....sorry.

Thinking otherwise, though politically wonderful, is foolhardy and
dangerous.

Larry
--

I'll go head to head with most men any day of the week, Larry. My boat is
sized for what I can handle. Nevertheless, your gendertyping doesn't take
into account that there are plenty of women who are bigger than some men. Or
even the average man, for that matter. And some day, we shall rule the
Earth.

....
women's lib or no women's lib. She'll never be as strong
as a man....sorry.

Thinking otherwise, though politically wonderful, is foolhardy and
dangerous. ...

I think you are generalizing too much. Some people can work the main
in a 40 knot squall and some can't. It is the Captain's
responsibility to know the limitations of the crew and to make
allowances for them.

-- Tom.

Your posting got me wondering .... ..

you say ... ... "I've had two acquaintances die because their less
competent partners failed to wake them in difficult conditions."

Did the wives live? Huum... this sounds like a case for CSI Atlantic. Or
Pacific,, Ocean,, ?? Water ??

Anyway,,, if both wives lived, and both husbands died and both boats were
done in while the "little Lady" was on watch ..

It would seem to me that you are "doing both widows".

Yes,, that is the answer. No doubt about it..

Case solved.

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wrote in message
oups.com...
No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are
constructive.

We're taking
the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make
us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets.

The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be
experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and
to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes
in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the
same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not
be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather
than professionals.

she tells folks, now,
that she wasn't in condition to stand watch, but didn't fetch me to
either take over or assist. We'll not make that mistake again.

This is critical. I've had two acquaintances die because their less
competent partners failed to wake them in difficult conditions. In
one case the boat was run down by a tow and in the other dragged onto
a lee shore. The husbands and their boats were lost in a large part
because their wives wanted to let them rest. I continually remind my
crew that she must wake me whenever she has any questions or doubts
and I try very hard to praise her each time she calls me even though
most calls are false alarms. Sleep management and watch
responsibility may be the hardest part of sailing short handed.

-- Tom.

....
Did the wives live? Huum... this sounds like a case for CSI Atlantic. Or
Pacific,, Ocean,, ?? Water ??
...

Yes, the wives lived, no there is no mystery. See the loss of the
"Toolka T" in '01and "Woody Goose" in '98 both returning to New
Zealand from the islands.

-- Tom.

" wrote in
oups.com:

This is critical. I've had two acquaintances die because their less
competent partners failed to wake them in difficult conditions. In
one case the boat was run down by a tow and in the other dragged onto
a lee shore. The husbands and their boats were lost in a large part
because their wives wanted to let them rest. I continually remind my
crew that she must wake me whenever she has any questions or doubts
and I try very hard to praise her each time she calls me even though
most calls are false alarms. Sleep management and watch
responsibility may be the hardest part of sailing short handed.


For those sailor lurkers on the newsgroup....This is why you don't REALLY
need a boat of your own. Sailing with just an incompetent wife, most of
whom are NOT interested in playing captain-for-a-watch anyways, is fairly
foolhardy. Oh, they get away with it a lot, as long as things don't turn
sour. Then, having some hands aboard who know how to sail, fix things,
navigate, etc., becomes invaluable.

It works great, by the way, once you get over the "Captain Syndrome".
You get to play captain for free...more than you want, actually...(c;

Larry, 3rd Mate - Deck and Engineering
--
When they call ME "captain", my response is:
"Oh, no! Your not blamin' ME for this! YOU'RE the captain!"

On Apr 2, 6:40 pm, " wrote:
No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are
constructive.

We're taking
the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make
us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets.

The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be
experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and
to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes
in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the
same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not
be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather
than professionals.


I agree. I think your money would be better spend on some other form
of educational experience.

"capt.bill11" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 2, 6:40 pm, " wrote:
No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are
constructive.

We're taking
the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make
us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets.

The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be
experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and
to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes
in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the
same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not
be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather
than professionals.


I agree. I think your money would be better spend on some other form
of educational experience.


Power Squadron or Coast Guard Auxiliary courses would be ideal. I hate the
idea of making them "mandatory," but they should be taken by anyone who
boats on open water. In Italy, I couldn't operate a skiff with an outboard
engine without passing a course and test first.

In Italy? You are actually mentioning Italy in a posting about boating
safety? Italy?

What next? France?

Oh,, the humanity.

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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"capt.bill11" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 2, 6:40 pm, " wrote:
No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are
constructive.

We're taking
the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make
us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets.

The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be
experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and
to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes
in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the
same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not
be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather
than professionals.


I agree. I think your money would be better spend on some other form
of educational experience.


Power Squadron or Coast Guard Auxiliary courses would be ideal. I hate the
idea of making them "mandatory," but they should be taken by anyone who
boats on open water. In Italy, I couldn't operate a skiff with an outboard
engine without passing a course and test first.