"Roger Long" wrote in message
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I suggest you take a look at some of the more conservative sea level rise
estimates and sit down with a chart of your beloved cruising areas and
ponder what they will look like.

I meet a lot of physical oceanographers and other such people in my line
of work. Believe me, they aren't talking about this stuff because it
helps them get grants. Quite the opposite. The idiot who couldn't find
oil in Texas but thought he could rebuild a society he knows nothing about
with a handful (relatively) of soldiers tried to get it set up that you
couldn't get funding if you talked about global warming. They persisted
because they are scientists. About the only ones who don't believe it now
are those who think it can't get warm because it is flat (which is why
NASA had to fake the moon landing).


The error here is in thinking that there is a "normal" state to the Earth.
We are currently between Ice Age cycles, and warming is a natural part of
that cycle. Sea levels rise and drop along with the ice -- just because we
have settled low-lying areas does not mean that the Earth's climate cycles
must respect our decisions.

On the bright side, think of all the NEW cruising grounds the rising sea
levels will give us!

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:43:11 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:

The error here is in thinking that there is a "normal" state to the Earth.

nothing in what Roger posted suggested a "normal" state to the Earth

We are currently between Ice Age cycles, and warming is a natural part
of that cycle. Sea levels rise and drop along with the ice

true, but you aren't ignoring the dissolved gas evidence in ice core
samples at both poles that indicate that this current rise and rate of
rise of temperature is beyond anything recorded in those samples are you?
And that CO2, primarily as a result of fossil fuel burning by us clever
tool-making monkeys is the cause. Of course the gullible and weak-minded
acolytes of the flathead from Texas will attribute the real cause
to bovine flatulence; yet another insidious plot of international
terrorism

"mr.b" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:43:11 -0600, KLC Lewis wrote:

The error here is in thinking that there is a "normal" state to the
Earth.

nothing in what Roger posted suggested a "normal" state to the Earth

We are currently between Ice Age cycles, and warming is a natural part
of that cycle. Sea levels rise and drop along with the ice

true, but you aren't ignoring the dissolved gas evidence in ice core
samples at both poles that indicate that this current rise and rate of
rise of temperature is beyond anything recorded in those samples are you?
And that CO2, primarily as a result of fossil fuel burning by us clever
tool-making monkeys is the cause. Of course the gullible and weak-minded
acolytes of the flathead from Texas will attribute the real cause
to bovine flatulence; yet another insidious plot of international
terrorism

Interesting position -- anyone who doesn't sign-on to "Humans are the cause
of global warming" is gullible and weak-minded, and/or a Bu****e?

Do humans *contribute* to increased CO2 levels? Naturally. But the primary
cause of global warming remains, IMO, natural fluctuations that we are
powerless to alter.

Forget the cows. It's the termites we need to worry about. ;-)

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

Do humans *contribute* to increased CO2 levels? Naturally. But the
primary cause of global warming remains, IMO, natural fluctuations
that we are powerless to alter.



I didn't "sign on" to anything. Just showing the graphs of the FACTS...


Larry
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If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other?

IF it is a carbon problem, the fossil fuel production companies have
wasted half of all the natural gas ever found because it is
uneconomical to do anything with it except flare it off, if and when
someone requires them to burn it. Most oil comes with too much gas to
handle cheaply, and oil companies have no interest with encouraging
efficient consumption, insulation, etc.

It's the money.

Big cars and too much speed is one thing we can do something about.

I don't think we can do anything about the solar cycle, or the possible
boiling off of all the methane frozen in the seas. Ours wouldn't be the
first mass extinction, nor the last.

Terry K

We are currently between Ice Age cycles, and warming is a natural part
of that cycle. Sea levels rise and drop along with the ice


You folk talk like unemployed people who say they're in "Between jobs".

and how many supposedly millions of years does this cyclic take place?

in 20 years time will the earths temp be 99 f? or -20f?

in the 80's various leading experts preached that because of aresols
and r12 freon and various other hydrocarbonic pollutants, there's this
big hole in the upper atmosphere , causing arid conditions, and by the
year 2000 most of the earth will be a desert.

in the 90's various leading experts preached that because of aresols
and r12 freon and various other hydrocarbonic pollutants, there's this
big hole in the upper atmosphere, causing tropical conditions, and by
the year 2010, most of the earth will be under water.

Who's going to flip the coin for the next 20 years?

"Tim" wrote in news:1165905270.026253.172070
@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:

Who's going to flip the coin for the next 20 years?


History repeats itself as many times as there are Federal funding cycles
for it.



Larry
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Why is it, in any city, all traffic lights act as if they have rotary
timers in them, like they did in 1955, and are all set to create
maximum inconvenience and block traffic movement, entirely?

"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

We are currently between Ice Age cycles,

Actually, if you look at the graph I referenced from a downloadable PDF
file in alt.binaries.e-book.technical someone posted Nov 28th, we're in one
of the coldest periods of Earth's history, only a couple of C warmer than
the ice age 300M years ago.

They keep manipulating the graphs to only show the NARROW picture they want
you to see, not the whole graph where the CO2 was so intense it would have
killed us all...NOT caused by man, especially AMERICANS, as is always
reported....

Larry
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If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other?

Larry wrote:
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

We are currently between Ice Age cycles,

Actually, if you look at the graph I referenced from a downloadable PDF
file in alt.binaries.e-book.technical someone posted Nov 28th, we're in one
of the coldest periods of Earth's history, only a couple of C warmer than
the ice age 300M years ago.

They keep manipulating the graphs to only show the NARROW picture they want
you to see, not the whole graph where the CO2 was so intense it would have
killed us all...NOT caused by man, especially AMERICANS, as is always
reported....

Larry

Let's face it,You just don't like Al Gore!! He wrote the book on
global warming right after he invented the internet so he must know his
stuff! And, like Al says, even if it ain't so, look at all the good we
get from it!!
Just pokin fun
Gordon

"Larry" wrote in message
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et:

We are currently between Ice Age cycles,

Actually, if you look at the graph I referenced from a downloadable PDF
file in alt.binaries.e-book.technical someone posted Nov 28th, we're in
one
of the coldest periods of Earth's history, only a couple of C warmer than
the ice age 300M years ago.

They keep manipulating the graphs to only show the NARROW picture they
want
you to see, not the whole graph where the CO2 was so intense it would have
killed us all...NOT caused by man, especially AMERICANS, as is always
reported....

Larry
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Yes, but none-the-less I'm still hoping it gets warmer. ;-)