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How about this hypothetical... would you be willing to completely ban
those who continue to drive the noisy, polluting machines that
dominate the current situation? I think that would be a reasonable
compromise.

This is a little ambiguous....as far as the machines themselves, this
is more
of a regulation on the manufacturers than on the owners/riders. I

So that's a no? In fact, if an older car is polluting excessively, one
can report it (out here anyway). They get a fix-it notice in the
mail. It's not enforceable, but it puts them on notice that if a cop
sees it, he might get a real fix-it ticket.

don't single out pwc's; if you did the same thing to noisy, polluting,
dirty boats of all shapes and sizes, then I at least couldn't cry
discrimination against pwc's. 'Course, then that would mean the whole

I'm not specifically singling out pwcs, except that they're a huge
cause of the problem. You don't get very many sailboats buzzing
anchorages with noisy engines and endangering lives in the process.

I've already said when someone is running their engine excessively, I
usually say something. That's not easy to do when a pwc zips by.

boating community would all be joined together in their outrage,
instead of different segments of us bickering among ourselves here, and

I don't think you'll find much disagreement in the sailing community
about the annoynance of pwcs.

have long-ago-formed prejudiced stereotyped outdated impressions of us
and our boats, we're a much tinier and less powerful group...although
we have still been winning against them when the scientific evidence
inevitably comes in.)

And, as I've said, it's not outdated. It's nice that the industry has
finally fixed the problem (supposedly) for new vehicles. They haven't
and can't do much for the old ones that still dominate the scene.

Now, when you say, "ban those who continue to drive"....I and every
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