bob wrote:

are you the ones who used to smoke pot back in the 60's? my how times
have changed.

That's the problem... That we did it then has become an excuse for "we
can't tell you not to do it." It doesn't matter what we did then....we
did a whole bunch of things we were lucky to survive and/or stay out of
jail for doing. But somehow, we seem to have conveniently forgotten that
although we did all those things, society didn't condone 'em then. So
it's become "hypocrasy" to refuse to condone 'em now.

The REAL hypocracy is in pretending to have grown up into responsible
adults, yet refusing to define right and wrong, then accepting behavior
from kids we KNOW to be wrong, and THEN protecting 'em from the
consequences of their actions.

--
Peggie
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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
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no offense peggie but your generation has really screwed up the kids
today. the statistics i read make me sick to my stomach. nothing
personal but my god, what the baby boomers have done to this society
..........

I went to my boat today to tie up for any surge from Katrina and found
for the second time that kids have been aboard smoking pot.

I would report this to the police and keep a copy of the report on your
boat.

If you are ever stopped for a search by the USCG and they bring a dog
aboard and find pot remnants, YOU will be the one in trouble and in
danger of losing your boat - UNLESS you have reported the illegal entry
to the police and kept your copy to show the coasties.

That is a very, very, good point. The drug cops will take your boat
if they find a single seed because it boosts their "body count" and
looks good at evaluation time without having to actually confront
someone who might shoot at them.

--

Roger Long



wrote in message
...
I went to my boat today to tie up for any surge from Katrina and
found
for the second time that kids have been aboard smoking pot.

I would report this to the police and keep a copy of the report on
your
boat.

If you are ever stopped for a search by the USCG and they bring a
dog
aboard and find pot remnants, YOU will be the one in trouble and in
danger of losing your boat - UNLESS you have reported the illegal
entry
to the police and kept your copy to show the coasties.

On 27 Aug 2005 15:46:44 -0700, wrote:

I went to my boat today to tie up for any surge from Katrina and found
for the second time that kids have been aboard smoking pot. They do
not steal anything or do any damage but they do leave butts and ashes.
This time one left a T-shirt which could be used to ID them if I was
really interested. The first time I think they got aboard by me
leaving the combo lock unlocked (you have to spin the tumblers and I
forget). This time I think they actually removed the hasp but
carefully replaced the screws when they left. Security at the dock is
minimal and would be difficult to enforce. I do not want to get them
in trouble for the pot smoking and do not really want to get them in
trouble for using my boat while doing no damage. However, they could
get hurt being stoned and stupid so I want them to never come back. I
left two notes for them telling to leave my boat but I do not think
they will see them because they do not turn on any lights. I'll
replace the lock and hasp tomorrow but wonder if anyone else has any
suggestions for a way to warn them without hurting them.

Wow! You don't want them to get in trouble for trespassing and smoking pot.

Maybe their parents felt the same way. Let the little guys do whatever the hell
they want.

Seems like your priorities are a little messed up here.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco wrote:



Wow! You don't want them to get in trouble for trespassing and smoking pot.

Maybe their parents felt the same way. Let the little guys do whatever the hell
they want.

Seems like your priorities are a little messed up here.

Yes...maybe you could use your influence to have them accepted into the
army John. A few tours in Iraq would straighten them out....don't you
think?

Don,
Teach them little rascals what body bags are. Yeah that's it, make
cannon fodder out of em. :-(
Paul

Don White wrote:
PocoLoco wrote:



Wow! You don't want them to get in trouble for trespassing and smoking
pot.

Maybe their parents felt the same way. Let the little guys do whatever
the hell
they want.
Seems like your priorities are a little messed up here.


Yes...maybe you could use your influence to have them accepted into the
army John. A few tours in Iraq would straighten them out....don't you
think?

Paul Schilter wrote:
Don,
Teach them little rascals what body bags are. Yeah that's it, make
cannon fodder out of em. :-(
Paul


Sorry...I'm not qualified to do that. I'm not, nor have I ever been, a
military man. I was passing that duty off to a retired former army
officer who also has teaching experience with high school age youths.

On 27 Aug 2005 15:46:44 -0700, wrote (with
possible editing):

I went to my boat today to tie up for any surge from Katrina and found
for the second time that kids have been aboard smoking pot. They do
not steal anything or do any damage but they do leave butts and ashes.
This time one left a T-shirt which could be used to ID them if I was
really interested. The first time I think they got aboard by me
leaving the combo lock unlocked (you have to spin the tumblers and I
forget). This time I think they actually removed the hasp but
carefully replaced the screws when they left. Security at the dock is
minimal and would be difficult to enforce. I do not want to get them
in trouble for the pot smoking and do not really want to get them in
trouble for using my boat while doing no damage. However, they could
get hurt being stoned and stupid so I want them to never come back. I
left two notes for them telling to leave my boat but I do not think
they will see them because they do not turn on any lights. I'll
replace the lock and hasp tomorrow but wonder if anyone else has any
suggestions for a way to warn them without hurting them.

For what it's worth, I think the issue of prosecution isn't really
central to you. No opinion, and I won't get into a battle. I think
what you are really concerned with is damage to your boat.

First of all, I believe the advice that gave you is
spot on. You need to keep a copy of the incident report on your boat.
The Coast Guard has made drug interdiction a large part of their
mission and you never know when you will become a random target.

Second, what access do you have to power? You could mount a low light
cctv camera high up on a mast and aim it at the cockpit. With a small
recorder with or without a motion detector; it would likely give you a
picture of the offenders sufficient to identify them. Certainly a
motion detector would give false positives as a boat is always moving,
but it would work. After the storm (good luck, btw) you might rig
this up.

Best,
--

Larry
Email to rapp at lmr dot com

They don't need to be busted since they're not wrecking anything, but
if they're leaving residue that's your liability when the CG sticks
their nose into your business. Zero tolerance. You can't legally rig up
a loaded shotgun to the door, but you could rig up one of those aerosol
air horns to the door or a trip wire. Or a whole bunch of pots and pans
to crash unto the floor. Or both. I can see the air horn loading their
pants, scrambling head over heels out of the boat, up the dock and out
of the vicinity in a blind panic which would be vastly entertaining to
see. You could add to the horn and the pans with a tape recording of a
snarling, barking, attacking beast and I'll bet you could have them
screaming as they run. There could be a silver lining to this whole
episode if you get it on video. Sam