Cactuses (sp?) have pretty soft flesh and don't wear clothes. Might knock
someone down but not kill them. The other options will actually kill an
attacker.
Not sure how a flare gun is better?

Doug
s/v Callista

"RWKxxx" wrote in message
...
I spent 14 yrs cruising central and South America and always had a flare
gun
setting were I could get to it fast. When this was first suggested to me I
was
in Mexico and took a flare gun ashore and aimed it at a big barrel cactus.
It
blew a hole half way through it. A flare gun might not be the best but in
most
countries it is legal and you can put it were you can get it in a hurry. I
would hate to be shot with one. The other options are not as good as this
one
in my opinion.



I have a little flare pistol on my boat (in New York State, Lake
Ontario). I believe this is required by US Coast Guard. I was told
by
West Marine that we cannot take these to Canada as they are
"weapons."
Is this true? Can this pistol be used as a weapon? Can it shoot
regular shot gun shells? Are the flare shells lethal? Is it a
danger
to anyone? Does anyone know anything about this? I'd appreciate any
info?

--
Steve

--

BF:

Huh?

If you want my opinion, a flare from a 12 guage Orion wouldn't stop
anybody. Even fired in the boat (no gasoline), it wouldn't do much as
you could quickly put it out. Now, the 25 mm flares, i dunno.
It would be very easy to make a 12 guage flare gun that could fire 410
shells. I know little about firearms but I imagine a real 12 guage
shell would jerk a lightweight flare gun out of your hands even if it
didnt blow up.

In "Doug Dotson" writes:

Cactuses (sp?) have pretty soft flesh and don't wear clothes. Might knock
someone down but not kill them. The other options will actually kill an
attacker.
Not sure how a flare gun is better?

In many cases it might be better to just knock the attacker down, if you
kill him you might be in real deep trouble.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

And if you don't kill them (him, her, ?) then you might be dead.
If you settle for a knock down, then how fast and how many times
can you reload your flare pistol? You choose.

Doug

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
In "Doug Dotson"
writes:

Cactuses (sp?) have pretty soft flesh and don't wear clothes. Might knock
someone down but not kill them. The other options will actually kill an
attacker.
Not sure how a flare gun is better?

In many cases it might be better to just knock the attacker down, if you
kill him you might be in real deep trouble.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

In "Doug Dotson" writes:

You seems to like to kill people. I understand why your teenagers have
to start shooting wildly around when they get into school, perhaps that
is the only time they can do it first.

Of course a flare pistol is not a very efficient weapon if killing the
other person is the only option. I understand why GWB has to free the
sales of automatic assault rifles. You really seems to need them.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

And if you don't kill them (him, her, ?) then you might be dead.
If you settle for a knock down, then how fast and how many times
can you reload your flare pistol? You choose.

Doug

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
In "Doug Dotson"
writes:

Cactuses (sp?) have pretty soft flesh and don't wear clothes. Might knock
someone down but not kill them. The other options will actually kill an
attacker.
Not sure how a flare gun is better?

In many cases it might be better to just knock the attacker down, if you
kill him you might be in real deep trouble.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

My teenagers are not teenagers anymore. Not aware that they ever
shot anyone at school. Not aware that GWB has authorized any
sales and use of automatic weapons. The assault weapons that were
banned and are now not banned are not now and never were automatic
weapons. The assault weapons ban had absolutely no affect on
crime. That is why no politician was interested in standing behind
its renewal. GWB had no power in any regard. Laws are made
by Congress, not by the President.

Doug
s/v Callista


"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
In "Doug Dotson"
writes:

You seems to like to kill people. I understand why your teenagers have
to start shooting wildly around when they get into school, perhaps that
is the only time they can do it first.

Of course a flare pistol is not a very efficient weapon if killing the
other person is the only option. I understand why GWB has to free the
sales of automatic assault rifles. You really seems to need them.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

And if you don't kill them (him, her, ?) then you might be dead.
If you settle for a knock down, then how fast and how many times
can you reload your flare pistol? You choose.

Doug

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
In "Doug Dotson"
writes:

Cactuses (sp?) have pretty soft flesh and don't wear clothes. Might
knock
someone down but not kill them. The other options will actually kill an
attacker.
Not sure how a flare gun is better?

In many cases it might be better to just knock the attacker down, if you
kill him you might be in real deep trouble.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

What happened to GWB's power of veto? Hey, just because 60+% of the
country was against letting the ban expire, who cares, right?!? Cowbow
up!

-- Geoff

"Doug Dotson" wrote in
:

My teenagers are not teenagers anymore. Not aware that they ever
shot anyone at school. Not aware that GWB has authorized any
sales and use of automatic weapons. The assault weapons that were
banned and are now not banned are not now and never were automatic
weapons. The assault weapons ban had absolutely no affect on
crime. That is why no politician was interested in standing behind
its renewal. GWB had no power in any regard. Laws are made
by Congress, not by the President.

Doug
s/v Callista


"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
In "Doug Dotson"
writes:

You seems to like to kill people. I understand why your teenagers
have to start shooting wildly around when they get into school,
perhaps that is the only time they can do it first.

Of course a flare pistol is not a very efficient weapon if killing
the other person is the only option. I understand why GWB has to free
the sales of automatic assault rifles. You really seems to need them.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

And if you don't kill them (him, her, ?) then you might be dead.
If you settle for a knock down, then how fast and how many times
can you reload your flare pistol? You choose.

Doug

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
In "Doug Dotson"
writes:

Cactuses (sp?) have pretty soft flesh and don't wear clothes. Might
knock
someone down but not kill them. The other options will actually
kill an attacker.
Not sure how a flare gun is better?

In many cases it might be better to just knock the attacker down,
if you kill him you might be in real deep trouble.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

GWB can only veto a bill that has been placed before him after
being passed by the House and the Senate. No one in Congress
introduced legislation to renew the ban. I assumed that you are
American and understand how our govenment operates.
Sorry.

Doug

"Geoffrey W. Schultz" wrote in message
7...
What happened to GWB's power of veto? Hey, just because 60+% of the
country was against letting the ban expire, who cares, right?!? Cowbow
up!

-- Geoff

"Doug Dotson" wrote in
:

My teenagers are not teenagers anymore. Not aware that they ever
shot anyone at school. Not aware that GWB has authorized any
sales and use of automatic weapons. The assault weapons that were
banned and are now not banned are not now and never were automatic
weapons. The assault weapons ban had absolutely no affect on
crime. That is why no politician was interested in standing behind
its renewal. GWB had no power in any regard. Laws are made
by Congress, not by the President.

Doug
s/v Callista


"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
In "Doug Dotson"
writes:

You seems to like to kill people. I understand why your teenagers
have to start shooting wildly around when they get into school,
perhaps that is the only time they can do it first.

Of course a flare pistol is not a very efficient weapon if killing
the other person is the only option. I understand why GWB has to free
the sales of automatic assault rifles. You really seems to need them.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

And if you don't kill them (him, her, ?) then you might be dead.
If you settle for a knock down, then how fast and how many times
can you reload your flare pistol? You choose.

Doug

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
In "Doug Dotson"
writes:

Cactuses (sp?) have pretty soft flesh and don't wear clothes. Might
knock
someone down but not kill them. The other options will actually
kill an attacker.
Not sure how a flare gun is better?

In many cases it might be better to just knock the attacker down,
if you kill him you might be in real deep trouble.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

In article ,
"Geoffrey W. Schultz" wrote:

What happened to GWB's power of veto? Hey, just because 60+% of the
country was against letting the ban expire, who cares, right?!? Cowbow
up!

-- Geoff

Nope, not even close. 60+% of those polled by the Brady Bunch were
opposed, and Congress couldn't even get a major minority to support its
reinactment. I got mine before the Ban went into effect, many years
before.......


Me

Automatic weapons have been illegal for years, and still are for the general
public. The term "assualt weapon" is poorly defined, and was just made up to
ban a few rifles that "looked bad". GWB didn't do anything... the bill
banning those "assualt weapons" hit it's sunset date, and ended without
congress trying to re-enact it. At least they had some sense.

Your misconceptions are just what the anti-gun lobby wants. Sorry you fell
for it.

--


Keith
__
A 'good' return to your slip is one from which you can walk away. A 'great'
return is one after which they can use the boat again.

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message

Of course a flare pistol is not a very efficient weapon if killing the
other person is the only option. I understand why GWB has to free the
sales of automatic assault rifles. You really seems to need them.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

Automatic weapons are NOT illegal, and have not been for many years, with
proper paperwork and fees not only can a law abiding citizen own an
automatic weapon, but the fact of the matter is there are more automatic
weapons in private hands than there are in both law enforcment and military
hands.
The other fact of the matter is the "assualt weapon" ban was a useless piece
of legislation and anyone who believes it's demise will cause machine gun
toting criminals to overrun our streets is someone who does not understand
guns, and gets all thier information from the liberal media.

As for the question on the flare pistol, why post a question here? write to
the company that makes the flare pistol and get the truth from the people
who know exactllay what laws apply and how they apply...it's thier
livelyhood.

Eric

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Automatic weapons have been illegal for years, and still are for the
general
public. The term "assualt weapon" is poorly defined, and was just made up
to
ban a few rifles that "looked bad". GWB didn't do anything... the bill
banning those "assualt weapons" hit it's sunset date, and ended without
congress trying to re-enact it. At least they had some sense.

Your misconceptions are just what the anti-gun lobby wants. Sorry you fell
for it.

--


Keith
__
A 'good' return to your slip is one from which you can walk away. A
'great'
return is one after which they can use the boat again.

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message

Of course a flare pistol is not a very efficient weapon if killing the
other person is the only option. I understand why GWB has to free the
sales of automatic assault rifles. You really seems to need them.

- Lauri Tarkkonen