You should post this on the Tayana Owner EMail Discussion List on
Sailnet; and, at http://www.tayanaowners.org/
Ty37 Ketches are quite rare and VERY desirable as they sail MUCH better
than the cutter version. Why so cheap??????


In article
outboats.com,
alvanskl wrote:

I have a 1981 Tyana 37 Ketch for sale at $55,000. Needs some maintenance
such as new engine hoses, freeing up steering cables, etc. as it has been
sitting for 13 years in dry dorage. Proven sailor from Maine to Venezuela.
Lived aboard ten years. Aries windvane self steering. Why waste all that
money on a new one? Best way to learn a boat is work on her. Email me at
for details.AL

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:27:58 GMT, Rich Hampel
wrote:

You should post this on the Tayana Owner EMail Discussion List on
Sailnet; and, at http://www.tayanaowners.org/
Ty37 Ketches are quite rare and VERY desirable as they sail MUCH better
than the cutter version. Why so cheap??????

A little off-topic, but I am curious...why does the TY 37 ketch sail
better than the cutter? My experience is that for windward work, the
usual order is sloop-cutter-ketch-schooner-ship in order of decent
pointing ability and so on.

Having said that, I will probably get a staysail cutter-ketch! G

R.

The cutter is quite over-canvassed and needs quite a bit of sail
shaping and precise setting to keep a neutral helm. SA with yankee is
864 sq. ft. .... & ~1100 w/ 130 genoa. The cutter must have its
mast dead straight or will not balance easily .... in disagreement with
the original designers drawings. Supposedly the yard moved the mast aft
a 'bit' without consulting the designer.

The Ketch SA with yankee is 786 sq. ft., has a more high aspect ratio
mainsail .... yielding a more natural balanced helm and better
windward ability. Obviously the mizzen is in the slip stream of the
main when beating but that very high aspect ratio main does the trick.
The ketch rig is deemed 'naturally balanced' by the designer .... just
'happened that way' - so he has stated.



In article , rhys
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:27:58 GMT, Rich Hampel
wrote:

You should post this on the Tayana Owner EMail Discussion List on
Sailnet; and, at http://www.tayanaowners.org/
Ty37 Ketches are quite rare and VERY desirable as they sail MUCH better
than the cutter version. Why so cheap??????

A little off-topic, but I am curious...why does the TY 37 ketch sail
better than the cutter? My experience is that for windward work, the
usual order is sloop-cutter-ketch-schooner-ship in order of decent
pointing ability and so on.

Having said that, I will probably get a staysail cutter-ketch! G

R.

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:17:59 GMT, Rich Hampel
wrote:

The Ketch SA with yankee is 786 sq. ft., has a more high aspect ratio
mainsail .... yielding a more natural balanced helm and better
windward ability. Obviously the mizzen is in the slip stream of the
main when beating but that very high aspect ratio main does the trick.
The ketch rig is deemed 'naturally balanced' by the designer .... just
'happened that way' - so he has stated.

Great answer, Rich. I understand this properly as well. It goes to
show that alterations to designer's specs are problematic at best.

Still, a ketch that's better to windward than a cutter...whodathunkit?

Thanks,
R.