I was invited to sail a Tayana 37 Saturday; some of you will remember this
is one of the boats on my short list. I have to say I was a bit more
impressed with the boat than I thought I would be. It was a light-air day
on upper Galveston Bay; winds were in the 8-10kt range. I expected the
boat- with its 22,000 lb displacement- to be a bit ponderous, but she
performed quite nicely. We averaged 4.5 kts (on the GPS) on close and broad
reaches. We did not use the staysail; I do not know if this would have
increased the boat's performance or not (I have absolutely zero experience
with cutters). I don't think it would be too wildly optimistic to expect,
under the right (but not necessarily optimum) conditions, that a Tayana 37
would do 125-mile days. Some days more, some days less, certainly- but
still and all, this boat is a traveller. This particular boat had a slight
weather helm, but it wasn't something I had to fight. I was told the wind
vane steers her very nicely. While tacking she was docile enough; no
quirks. It was a great experience, and I have to thank my new-found friends
for the invitation. (This boat is not for sale, btw.)

Today I looked over another Tayana 37 offered for sale by the owner, and she
is a very nicely maintained boat- the best I have seen so far (I've looked
at several!). Interestingly enough, she is one hull number different than
the boat I sailed on. She needs more gadgets- a radar would be the first
thing I'd add, followed by a wind vane- but she's an immaculately clean 1986
model ready to move aboard. It's probably a good thing I didn't have the
cash in hand

Wendy

Wendy,
I think I mentioned that we were very pleasantly surprised by the light
air performance of our Tayana. We had expected a real pig. While it's
true, there are lots of faster boats, give Tricia Jean a clean bottom
and she moves right along. Bob Perry did something right when he
designed this one.

One of the things we REALLY like about ours, that no one says much about
is the huge amount of acessible storage. Everywhere you look, there are
more drawers, cupboards and lockers. After owning a Catalina 30, where
whatever you were after, whether it was a spare part or another can of
evaporated milk, you had to dig for it, that is especially sweet. Don't
get me wrong, I'm not bad mouthing the Catalina. We sure loved ours.
But it does make you appreciate boats like the Tayana.

Now that I think about it, one of the best aspects of going through a
few successively larger boats on your way to the "final" one is that you
really appreciate that boat you wind up with more. When we went from a
MacGregor 25 to the Catalina 30, we truely appreciated the size, comfort
and storage the larger boat brought as well as its' ability to handle
the coastal cruising conditions of the CA coast. Now, after having
lived on the Catalina for up to 2 months at a stretch, the Tayana seems
almost like a palace. We hope to move aboard permantly before too long
and had we gone straight from a 4 bedroom house to the Tayana, I can
just imagine how confining it would have felt. As it is, it feels big
and roomy to us.

Fair winds - Dan

Wendy wrote:
I was invited to sail a Tayana 37 Saturday; some of you will remember this
is one of the boats on my short list. I have to say I was a bit more
impressed with the boat than I thought I would be. It was a light-air day
on upper Galveston Bay; winds were in the 8-10kt range. I expected the
boat- with its 22,000 lb displacement- to be a bit ponderous, but she
performed quite nicely. We averaged 4.5 kts (on the GPS) on close and broad
reaches. We did not use the staysail; I do not know if this would have
increased the boat's performance or not (I have absolutely zero experience
with cutters). I don't think it would be too wildly optimistic to expect,
under the right (but not necessarily optimum) conditions, that a Tayana 37
would do 125-mile days. Some days more, some days less, certainly- but
still and all, this boat is a traveller. This particular boat had a slight
weather helm, but it wasn't something I had to fight. I was told the wind
vane steers her very nicely. While tacking she was docile enough; no
quirks. It was a great experience, and I have to thank my new-found friends
for the invitation. (This boat is not for sale, btw.)

Today I looked over another Tayana 37 offered for sale by the owner, and she
is a very nicely maintained boat- the best I have seen so far (I've looked
at several!). Interestingly enough, she is one hull number different than
the boat I sailed on. She needs more gadgets- a radar would be the first
thing I'd add, followed by a wind vane- but she's an immaculately clean 1986
model ready to move aboard. It's probably a good thing I didn't have the
cash in hand

Wendy

Wendy,
I think I mentioned that we were very pleasantly surprised by the light
air performance of our Tayana. We had expected a real pig. While it's
true, there are lots of faster boats, give Tricia Jean a clean bottom
and she moves right along. Bob Perry did something right when he
designed this one.

One of the things we REALLY like about ours, that no one says much about
is the huge amount of acessible storage. Everywhere you look, there are
more drawers, cupboards and lockers. After owning a Catalina 30, where
whatever you were after, whether it was a spare part or another can of
evaporated milk, you had to dig for it, that is especially sweet. Don't
get me wrong, I'm not bad mouthing the Catalina. We sure loved ours.
But it does make you appreciate boats like the Tayana.

Now that I think about it, one of the best aspects of going through a
few successively larger boats on your way to the "final" one is that you
really appreciate that boat you wind up with more. When we went from a
MacGregor 25 to the Catalina 30, we truely appreciated the size, comfort
and storage the larger boat brought as well as its' ability to handle
the coastal cruising conditions of the CA coast. Now, after having
lived on the Catalina for up to 2 months at a stretch, the Tayana seems
almost like a palace. We hope to move aboard permantly before too long
and had we gone straight from a 4 bedroom house to the Tayana, I can
just imagine how confining it would have felt. As it is, it feels big
and roomy to us.

Fair winds - Dan

Wendy wrote:
I was invited to sail a Tayana 37 Saturday; some of you will remember this
is one of the boats on my short list. I have to say I was a bit more
impressed with the boat than I thought I would be. It was a light-air day
on upper Galveston Bay; winds were in the 8-10kt range. I expected the
boat- with its 22,000 lb displacement- to be a bit ponderous, but she
performed quite nicely. We averaged 4.5 kts (on the GPS) on close and broad
reaches. We did not use the staysail; I do not know if this would have
increased the boat's performance or not (I have absolutely zero experience
with cutters). I don't think it would be too wildly optimistic to expect,
under the right (but not necessarily optimum) conditions, that a Tayana 37
would do 125-mile days. Some days more, some days less, certainly- but
still and all, this boat is a traveller. This particular boat had a slight
weather helm, but it wasn't something I had to fight. I was told the wind
vane steers her very nicely. While tacking she was docile enough; no
quirks. It was a great experience, and I have to thank my new-found friends
for the invitation. (This boat is not for sale, btw.)

Today I looked over another Tayana 37 offered for sale by the owner, and she
is a very nicely maintained boat- the best I have seen so far (I've looked
at several!). Interestingly enough, she is one hull number different than
the boat I sailed on. She needs more gadgets- a radar would be the first
thing I'd add, followed by a wind vane- but she's an immaculately clean 1986
model ready to move aboard. It's probably a good thing I didn't have the
cash in hand

Wendy

A Tayana is very sensitive to the position of max draft in the mainsail
vs. weather helm... a good thing. Halyard tension is critical. Once
the helm balance is attained, because of the symmetrical hull form, can
lay over on her ear and not change weather/lee helm.
For beating the staysail (set under a genoa) is of little advantage,
and takes extremely precise flattening and rounded entry to be of
benefit, then it will reduce mast turbulence and aerodynamically
becomes a forward extension of the main sail. If you try to make a
staysail 'draw' when beating ---- nothing of benefit will happen!
Otherwise, my preference is to have a boomed (and vanged) staysail for
efficient reaching .... so the foot/boom doesnt lift resulting in an
open (fluttering) leech of the staysl - this for maximum 'drive'.
If you buy a TY37 and it has a 'yankee' jib, throw it overboard... CE
is too high and all you get is heel and little forward drive.
A TY37 needs a feathering prop, a faired and smooth bottom to be a good
light air performer. In light air, a TY37 will not accelerate from a
tack without some serious 'powering up': bearing off, releasing
mainsail outhaul, etc.

Too bad the winds were not 'up' as thats when the TY37 is at her best.


In article , Wendy
wrote:

I was invited to sail a Tayana 37 Saturday; some of you will remember this
is one of the boats on my short list. I have to say I was a bit more
impressed with the boat than I thought I would be. It was a light-air day
on upper Galveston Bay; winds were in the 8-10kt range. I expected the
boat- with its 22,000 lb displacement- to be a bit ponderous, but she
performed quite nicely. We averaged 4.5 kts (on the GPS) on close and broad
reaches. We did not use the staysail; I do not know if this would have
increased the boat's performance or not (I have absolutely zero experience
with cutters). I don't think it would be too wildly optimistic to expect,
under the right (but not necessarily optimum) conditions, that a Tayana 37
would do 125-mile days. Some days more, some days less, certainly- but
still and all, this boat is a traveller. This particular boat had a slight
weather helm, but it wasn't something I had to fight. I was told the wind
vane steers her very nicely. While tacking she was docile enough; no
quirks. It was a great experience, and I have to thank my new-found friends
for the invitation. (This boat is not for sale, btw.)

Today I looked over another Tayana 37 offered for sale by the owner, and she
is a very nicely maintained boat- the best I have seen so far (I've looked
at several!). Interestingly enough, she is one hull number different than
the boat I sailed on. She needs more gadgets- a radar would be the first
thing I'd add, followed by a wind vane- but she's an immaculately clean 1986
model ready to move aboard. It's probably a good thing I didn't have the
cash in hand

Wendy

A Tayana is very sensitive to the position of max draft in the mainsail
vs. weather helm... a good thing. Halyard tension is critical. Once
the helm balance is attained, because of the symmetrical hull form, can
lay over on her ear and not change weather/lee helm.
For beating the staysail (set under a genoa) is of little advantage,
and takes extremely precise flattening and rounded entry to be of
benefit, then it will reduce mast turbulence and aerodynamically
becomes a forward extension of the main sail. If you try to make a
staysail 'draw' when beating ---- nothing of benefit will happen!
Otherwise, my preference is to have a boomed (and vanged) staysail for
efficient reaching .... so the foot/boom doesnt lift resulting in an
open (fluttering) leech of the staysl - this for maximum 'drive'.
If you buy a TY37 and it has a 'yankee' jib, throw it overboard... CE
is too high and all you get is heel and little forward drive.
A TY37 needs a feathering prop, a faired and smooth bottom to be a good
light air performer. In light air, a TY37 will not accelerate from a
tack without some serious 'powering up': bearing off, releasing
mainsail outhaul, etc.

Too bad the winds were not 'up' as thats when the TY37 is at her best.


In article , Wendy
wrote:

I was invited to sail a Tayana 37 Saturday; some of you will remember this
is one of the boats on my short list. I have to say I was a bit more
impressed with the boat than I thought I would be. It was a light-air day
on upper Galveston Bay; winds were in the 8-10kt range. I expected the
boat- with its 22,000 lb displacement- to be a bit ponderous, but she
performed quite nicely. We averaged 4.5 kts (on the GPS) on close and broad
reaches. We did not use the staysail; I do not know if this would have
increased the boat's performance or not (I have absolutely zero experience
with cutters). I don't think it would be too wildly optimistic to expect,
under the right (but not necessarily optimum) conditions, that a Tayana 37
would do 125-mile days. Some days more, some days less, certainly- but
still and all, this boat is a traveller. This particular boat had a slight
weather helm, but it wasn't something I had to fight. I was told the wind
vane steers her very nicely. While tacking she was docile enough; no
quirks. It was a great experience, and I have to thank my new-found friends
for the invitation. (This boat is not for sale, btw.)

Today I looked over another Tayana 37 offered for sale by the owner, and she
is a very nicely maintained boat- the best I have seen so far (I've looked
at several!). Interestingly enough, she is one hull number different than
the boat I sailed on. She needs more gadgets- a radar would be the first
thing I'd add, followed by a wind vane- but she's an immaculately clean 1986
model ready to move aboard. It's probably a good thing I didn't have the
cash in hand

Wendy

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 02:03:48 GMT, "Wendy" wrote:

I was invited to sail a Tayana 37 Saturday; some of you will remember this
good boat review snipped
It's probably a good thing I didn't have the cash in hand

Wendy


LOL..or a bad thing. There have times in my life that I should have leaped.
BTW..for some reason I got the impression from an earlier post that you fly?
If so, do you find yourself doing the "scan" thing...engine gauges (if motoring), horizon,
sail trim, lines, charts, etc, every few minutes.?
Norm

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 02:03:48 GMT, "Wendy" wrote:

I was invited to sail a Tayana 37 Saturday; some of you will remember this
good boat review snipped
It's probably a good thing I didn't have the cash in hand

Wendy


LOL..or a bad thing. There have times in my life that I should have leaped.
BTW..for some reason I got the impression from an earlier post that you fly?
If so, do you find yourself doing the "scan" thing...engine gauges (if motoring), horizon,
sail trim, lines, charts, etc, every few minutes.?
Norm

"engsol" wrote in message
...
LOL..or a bad thing. There have times in my life that I should have
leaped.
BTW..for some reason I got the impression from an earlier post that you
fly?
If so, do you find yourself doing the "scan" thing...engine gauges (if
motoring), horizon,
sail trim, lines, charts, etc, every few minutes.?
Norm

Yeah, now that you mention it, I did scan! GPS, horizon, depth sounder,
horizon, genoa, horizon...

Wendy

"engsol" wrote in message
...
LOL..or a bad thing. There have times in my life that I should have
leaped.
BTW..for some reason I got the impression from an earlier post that you
fly?
If so, do you find yourself doing the "scan" thing...engine gauges (if
motoring), horizon,
sail trim, lines, charts, etc, every few minutes.?
Norm

Yeah, now that you mention it, I did scan! GPS, horizon, depth sounder,
horizon, genoa, horizon...

Wendy

"Rich Hampel" wrote in message
...

(lots of good stuff snipped)

Too bad the winds were not 'up' as thats when the TY37 is at her best.

Yeah, I'd like to try her in a breeze, and I'd like to try her in a bit of a
sea. Galveston Bay is kinda like a lake, really. From the Tayana mailling
list I am given to understand that mast rake has a lot to do with weather
helm. I suppose it's a matter of tuning, really- a tweak here and there
until one has the boat set up the way one wants. I'll have to wait until I
have my own for that...

Wendy