On Dec 8, 11:34*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Bob" wrote in message

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snipped here

OR..........

Stop smoking for a month
Go to your swimming pool and beging exercizing your eustation tubes
and learn to clear your ears.
If you can fly, or drive over a moutain pass say 1000' gain elevation
then you can clear your ears in water.
Ya cant call water cold untill 60 F
Man up and do it. ON the other hand ya cant fix sisy.

Forget it, Bob! *He won't listen to reason. If he had he would not be in the
fix he finds himself in now. He's an obviously an out-of-shape, ignorant
lubber who has no business aboard a boat. He will whine about one physical
infirmity after another, one concern after another, one limitation after
another until somebody takes pity on his lazy and inept ass and pulls the
fat out of the fire for him. Can't you read between the lines of his post..
He is a lubberly wimp and a fool. He made his bed. Let him lie in it. I wish
you and other would stop enabling such lubberly attitudes and behavior.

Wilbur Hubbard



Hummm, you are correct. But unlike you I am a confirmed bleanding
heart fuzzy headed commie chi-comm hippy Democrate who belives
everybody deserves one set of instructions on how to succeed.
After that its up to them. Evern a republican deserves one chance.....
hell bush got two!
bob

"Bob" wrote in message
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Hummm, you are correct. But unlike you I am a confirmed bleanding
heart fuzzy headed commie chi-comm hippy Democrate who belives
everybody deserves one set of instructions on how to succeed.
After that its up to them. Evern a republican deserves one chance.....
hell bush got two!
bob


Republican = Democrat light.

I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is written
in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be tossed aside when
convenient to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is
written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be tossed
aside when convenient to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard


If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find the
Amendments?

On Dec 8, 4:08*pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message

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I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is
written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be tossed
aside when convenient to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard

If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find the
Amendments?

Kudos!!!

"Voyager255" wrote in message
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On Dec 8, 4:08 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message

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I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is
written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be
tossed
aside when convenient to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard

If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find the
Amendments?

| Kudos!!!

Your ignorance is showing. Duh!

Amendments 1-10 are called the Bill of Rights. They were part of the
Constitution when it was ratified.

Amendments 11-27 were created thereafter ACCORDING TO THE RULES SET FORTH IN
THE CONSTITUTION.

The existence of amendments, in no way, indicates a living, breathing
Constitution.

Ugly, ignorant Americans. It's a disgrace! Most don't even know their own
history.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:46:48 -0500, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Voyager255" wrote in message
news:961ab3bc-7f25-44e6-
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On Dec 8, 4:08 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message

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I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is
written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be
tossed
aside when convenient to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard

If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find
the Amendments?

| Kudos!!!

Your ignorance is showing. Duh!

Amendments 1-10 are called the Bill of Rights. They were part of the
Constitution when it was ratified.

Wrong.

wrote in message t...
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:46:48 -0500, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Voyager255" wrote in message
news:961ab3bc-7f25-44e6-
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On Dec 8, 4:08 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message

anews.com...



I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is
written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be
tossed
aside when convenient to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard

If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find
the Amendments?

| Kudos!!!

Your ignorance is showing. Duh!

Amendments 1-10 are called the Bill of Rights. They were part of the
Constitution when it was ratified.

Wrong.


From Wiki:

"Madison proposed the Bill of Rights while ideological conflict between Federalists and anti-Federalists, dating from the 1787 Philadelphia Convention, threatened the overall ratification of the new national Constitution. It largely responded to the Constitution's influential opponents, including prominent Founding Fathers, who argued that the Constitution should not be ratified because it failed to protect the basic principles of human liberty. The Bill was influenced by George Mason's 1776 Virginia Declaration of Rights, the 1689 English Bill of Rights, works of the Age of Enlightenment pertaining to natural rights, and earlier English political documents such as Magna Carta (1215)."



In other words the Constitution would not have been ratified without the Bill of Rights BEING INCLUDED.



I hope this helps.

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Voyager255" wrote in message
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On Dec 8, 4:08 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message

anews.com...



I am a proud conservative/libertarian who thinks the Constitution is
written in stone - not some living, breathing document meant to be
tossed
aside when convenient to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard

If the Constitution is written in stone, on what substrate do we find the
Amendments?

| Kudos!!!

Your ignorance is showing. Duh!

Amendments 1-10 are called the Bill of Rights. They were part of the
Constitution when it was ratified.

Actually, not. The Bill of Rights was introduced approximately two years
after the Constitution, and weren't ratified until December of 1791, two and
a half years after the Constitution itself had been ratified.

Amendments 11-27 were created thereafter ACCORDING TO THE RULES SET FORTH
IN THE CONSTITUTION.

The existence of amendments, in no way, indicates a living, breathing
Constitution.

Choice of terms. The existence of amendments shows that the Constitution can
be shaped to fit the times in which we are living.


Ugly, ignorant Americans. It's a disgrace! Most don't even know their own
history.

Wilbur Hubbard

"WaIIy" wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:37:26 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
wrote:

Choice of terms. The existence of amendments shows that the Constitution
can
be shaped to fit the times in which we are living.

That's only partly true and you know it.


"Only partly true..."? Sure. The amendment process can take a long time and
be a difficult task. Nevertheless, if the will to amend the Constitition is
there, it can be done. Since the Constitition was ratified, it has been
amended 27 times -- hardly what I would call "written in stone."

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:37:26 -0600, "KLC Lewis" said:


Choice of terms. The existence of amendments shows that the Constitution
can
be shaped to fit the times in which we are living.

And also the means by which this shaping is to be done. It ain't by
majority
vote of a panel of nine wise men.

You'd be hard pressed to find those "nine wise men" in any event.