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OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.
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OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.



Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good Lord
has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God
intended sailboats to do.

Wilbur Hubbard


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On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.


Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good Lord
has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God
intended sailboats to do.

Wilbur Hubbard


Doofus
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On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.



Doofus



Excellent suggestion! Get a doofus to go get it.

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www.sailnow.com



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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:09:56 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
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On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good Lord
has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God
intended sailboats to do.

Wilbur Hubbard


Having recently read an ode to Wilbur's knowledge of boating I
decided to test it out. I spent an hour walking the docks and
discovered that not a single one of the more then 200 boats in the
marina, all of whom have sailed across the ocean to get here, have
hanked on head sails.

So.... either more then 200 proven sailors are wrong... or Non Sailing
Wilbur is. Take your pick.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


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Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:09:56 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
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On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good
Lord has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails
as God intended sailboats to do.

Wilbur Hubbard


Having recently read an ode to Wilbur's knowledge of boating I
decided to test it out. I spent an hour walking the docks and
discovered that not a single one of the more then 200 boats in the
marina, all of whom have sailed across the ocean to get here, have
hanked on head sails.

So.... either more then 200 proven sailors are wrong... or Non Sailing
Wilbur is. Take your pick.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I actually have one....

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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:09:56 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good
Lord
has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God
intended sailboats to do.

Wilbur Hubbard


Having recently read an ode to Wilbur's knowledge of boating I
decided to test it out. I spent an hour walking the docks and
discovered that not a single one of the more then 200 boats in the
marina, all of whom have sailed across the ocean to get here, have
hanked on head sails.

So.... either more then 200 proven sailors are wrong... or Non Sailing
Wilbur is. Take your pick.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Mass stupidity doesn't make anything right. And lame assumptions such as
looking at boats stuck at a dock for thirty years and noting they all have
wind-ups and assuming that means boats that actually sail the world all have
wind-ups is the very definition of being misinformed, stupid, biased and
cowardly.

It is not we traditional cruising sailors who use hank-on headsails who are
whining like so many inept babies in a public newsgroup about dropping
totally unnecessary crap overboard than bothering others with lame questions
about how to retrieve said crap. "Waaa waaaah, Mommy the water's too
cold!!!" What kind of a sailor admits stupidity, ineptitude, childishness
and sail-by-committee behavior such as this and then begs free advice on how
to not suffer the consequences of his many faults and total unsuitability as
a sailor?

Not only are wind-ups proven more troublesome by virtue of their very design
that require extra moving parts, they are also more expensive and less
reliable. They are heavier, they cost more, they often come unwound in a
storm causing great damage to the vessel and others unfortunate enough to be
close by. In any position other than completely unwound they are less
efficient. The only real rationale for them is their owner being too
cowardly to go forward in a blow to change a headsail as a proper seaman
wound not think twice about. But, to broadcast in public one's own stupidity
at having allowed these more expensive and less reliable, not to mention
totally unnecessary, wind-ups to go by the board simply broadcasts one's
immutable lubberly bent. Sad!

Wilbur Hubbard


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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
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OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.



I did a rather similar exercise. I dropped the bronze roller for the
anchor bracket. Having the anchor and rode laying there on the dock I
immediately lowered the anchor as close to where the roller dropped as
possible. Next day I went hand over hand down the anchor rode and
there was the roller.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:


OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.




I did a rather similar exercise. I dropped the bronze roller for the
anchor bracket. Having the anchor and rode laying there on the dock I
immediately lowered the anchor as close to where the roller dropped as
possible. Next day I went hand over hand down the anchor rode and
there was the roller.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.



I did a rather similar exercise. I dropped the bronze roller for the
anchor bracket. Having the anchor and rode laying there on the dock I
immediately lowered the anchor as close to where the roller dropped as
possible. Next day I went hand over hand down the anchor rode and
there was the roller.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I hate to say it considering the source but THIS is a sailor's solution. No
whining, no fuss. He just thought about it, came up with a good plan and he
did it.

Wilbur Hubbard




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