This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks.

On Dec 8, 7:50 am, "Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote:
This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks.

I tried the swimming pool net and could not get it. My 18 yr old son
SAYS her will do it next weekend for $25 bucks but I am doubtful he
really will. Although the water isnt dangerously cold, it isn't comfy
for us FL natives. Even worse, it s nasty looking water with almost
no visibility. Did I mention the alligators, there seem to be some
small ones around although the cold water may make them lethargic.
Oyster tongs might work if I can find an oysterman willing to lend
them. I'll almost certainly end up trying to do it myself next
weekend by diving in spite of my ear problems.

On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 07:35:53 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Dec 8, 7:50 am, "Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote:
This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks.

I tried the swimming pool net and could not get it. My 18 yr old son
SAYS her will do it next weekend for $25 bucks but I am doubtful he
really will. Although the water isnt dangerously cold, it isn't comfy
for us FL natives. Even worse, it s nasty looking water with almost
no visibility. Did I mention the alligators, there seem to be some
small ones around although the cold water may make them lethargic.
Oyster tongs might work if I can find an oysterman willing to lend
them. I'll almost certainly end up trying to do it myself next
weekend by diving in spite of my ear problems.

Try some good earplugs.
Got a dog?
If he likes to swim, throw a ball in the water a bit off the pier.
He'll distract any gators while you dive in.

--Vic

On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.

Chuck a webcam in after it
http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/...ersible-webcam
then go fishing with a lassoo.

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:09:56 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Dec 7, 5:55 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Leave it right were it is for that is the best place for it. The Good
Lord
has given you a clue. Lose the wind-up sail. Use hank-on sails as God
intended sailboats to do.

Wilbur Hubbard

Having recently read an ode to Wilbur's knowledge of boating I
decided to test it out. I spent an hour walking the docks and
discovered that not a single one of the more then 200 boats in the
marina, all of whom have sailed across the ocean to get here, have
hanked on head sails.

So.... either more then 200 proven sailors are wrong... or Non Sailing
Wilbur is. Take your pick.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Mass stupidity doesn't make anything right. And lame assumptions such as
looking at boats stuck at a dock for thirty years and noting they all have
wind-ups and assuming that means boats that actually sail the world all have
wind-ups is the very definition of being misinformed, stupid, biased and
cowardly.

It is not we traditional cruising sailors who use hank-on headsails who are
whining like so many inept babies in a public newsgroup about dropping
totally unnecessary crap overboard than bothering others with lame questions
about how to retrieve said crap. "Waaa waaaah, Mommy the water's too
cold!!!" What kind of a sailor admits stupidity, ineptitude, childishness
and sail-by-committee behavior such as this and then begs free advice on how
to not suffer the consequences of his many faults and total unsuitability as
a sailor?

Not only are wind-ups proven more troublesome by virtue of their very design
that require extra moving parts, they are also more expensive and less
reliable. They are heavier, they cost more, they often come unwound in a
storm causing great damage to the vessel and others unfortunate enough to be
close by. In any position other than completely unwound they are less
efficient. The only real rationale for them is their owner being too
cowardly to go forward in a blow to change a headsail as a proper seaman
wound not think twice about. But, to broadcast in public one's own stupidity
at having allowed these more expensive and less reliable, not to mention
totally unnecessary, wind-ups to go by the board simply broadcasts one's
immutable lubberly bent. Sad!

Wilbur Hubbard

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.

DB,
Once, a long time ago (20 years) a couple of friends were trying to cast
mature trout in Port Canaveral. They found that in water deep enough to
allow ships next to the pier, the mullet would simply dive lower and the net
would close before it got down to them. So my friends used duct tape, 2
rings around the perimeter of the net, to keep it open long enough to get
the mullet. They got so many mullet in the first cast that they couldn't
lift the net. One of them had to get in the water to let the mullet out.
They weren't commercial, just getting a couple for the smoker and adjusted
the plan to just go after loners.
I think you might be able to retrieve the drum with your cast net. Or maybe
a friend has a long handled shrimp net?

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.


I did a rather similar exercise. I dropped the bronze roller for the
anchor bracket. Having the anchor and rode laying there on the dock I
immediately lowered the anchor as close to where the roller dropped as
possible. Next day I went hand over hand down the anchor rode and
there was the roller.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

I hate to say it considering the source but THIS is a sailor's solution. No
whining, no fuss. He just thought about it, came up with a good plan and he
did it.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

said:

ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.

I had very good luck retrieving a pair of lost glasses a year or so ago,
using a clam rake. Of course that furling drum is a bit larger, so may be
difficult to catch right.


Stupid suggestion. An example of speaking primarily for the sake of being
heard.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:39:34 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

OK, I dropped the plastic furling drum (massive and heavy plastic
part) from my CDI roller furling in the water beside my boat at the
dock. Water visibility is very poor and it is kinda cold although I
MIGHT be able to bear it. Water depth is 10-12'. I can locate the
drum with my very long boat hook but could not get it with a net tied
to boat hook or by using a metal loop and really cannot even tell how
it is oriented. It is literally only 1' out from my finger pier
straight down. A diver says he can get it next month although he
already tried but he looked in the wrong place (he didnt listen to my
directions well). ANY ideas to get it sooner? I am sure I will end
up going in the water and diving fro it but really dont want too. I
hate diving deep cuz I cannot relieve the pressure in my ears.
===================

Find another diver.

Another stupid suggestion. Do you also recommend he hire somebody to wipe
his ass?

Wilbur Hubbard

"Ansley W. Sawyer" wrote in message
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This sounds like it could be solved with a teenager and twenty bucks.



It could, perhaps, but since when is paying somebody to clean up after your
stupidity a manly thing to do?

Wilbur Hubbard