On Nov 22, 7:04*am, "Roger Long" wrote:


You'll get better responses if you can
demonstrate that you are a real person with a real boat.

Some of the most active members of this group don't actually have boats but
just use this as a place to live out their fantasies and make cutting
remarks about people they envy.

Roger Long

Ya know roger Ive enjoyed myself this fall and just havnt wanted to
spend any time reading this stuff but your reply is just another
reason I belive your self promotion has grown to blatant arrogance. I
for one dont give a **** if he/she is a troll, has a boat, or is just
board. You know sorta why I tollerate your posts here......
Bob

Nice to have you back, Bob.

(Did you get a chance to read the Titanic book? "Titanics Final Secrets",
Brad Matsen, Twelve Books, available at Amazon and fine bookstores
everywhere.)

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Roger Long

On Nov 23, 4:31�am, "Roger Long" wrote:
Nice to have you back, Bob.

(Did you get a chance to read the Titanic book? �"Titanics Final Secrets",
Brad Matsen, Twelve Books, available at Amazon and fine bookstores
everywhere.)

--
Roger Long

LOL I really do have a boat and the question about the east coast trip
is only because most of my crusing has been in the fingerlakes of NY
and ski boating on lakes here in NC.

The wife is half on board with the trip but affaid of being eatten by
sharks(no joke)

I was planning on sailling on one of the larger lakes here a few
weekends 1st to get use to how it handles and to just get a good feel
of it all around.

I told her that all we would be doing is sailing during the day and
find ports to anchor at night. kind of a get nowhere quick.

I'm tring to plan this out for late spring so its no bs just info I'm
looking for Thanks

What kind of boat?

How old?

Do you have a survey?

You can get some good information here with some specifics and keeping your
BS detector turned up to maximum sensitivity.

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Roger Long

"Roger Long" wrote in message
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What kind of boat?

How old?

Do you have a survey?


Oh, give it a rest with the survey crap, why don't you? Why do you
recommend the abdication of personal responsibility with respect to
something he should easily be able to handle himself?

All it takes is to do a little reading and research. There is nothing on a
28-footer that an amateur cannot see and check for himself armed with some
basic knowledge and some small ability to think and analyze.

Professional surveys have their place but not on an older, basic 28-ft
sailboat. It's just not cost effective. The first step towards cruising
should be to know how to evaluate your purchase yourself. If you aren't up
to that simple task then stay ashore. You don't have what it takes.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:54:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Oh, give it a rest with the survey crap, why don't you? Why do you
recommend the abdication of personal responsibility with respect to
something he should easily be able to handle himself?

All it takes is to do a little reading and research. There is nothing on a
28-footer that an amateur cannot see and check for himself armed with some
basic knowledge and some small ability to think and analyze.

Professional surveys have their place but not on an older, basic 28-ft
sailboat. It's just not cost effective. The first step towards cruising
should be to know how to evaluate your purchase yourself. If you aren't up
to that simple task then stay ashore. You don't have what it takes.

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Nonsense.

"Wayne.B" wrote

Nonsense. (Re; The opinion that surveyors are not needed.)


Especially in the case of the aparent knowledge level of the OP (No slight
intended. We all started with zero knowledge and learned by asking.)

I used to do some surveying and have been professionally involved with boats
my whole adult life. I still utilize professional surveyors and will the
next time I need a survey.

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Roger Long

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:54:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Oh, give it a rest with the survey crap, why don't you? Why do you
recommend the abdication of personal responsibility with respect to
something he should easily be able to handle himself?

All it takes is to do a little reading and research. There is nothing on a
28-footer that an amateur cannot see and check for himself armed with some
basic knowledge and some small ability to think and analyze.

Professional surveys have their place but not on an older, basic 28-ft
sailboat. It's just not cost effective. The first step towards cruising
should be to know how to evaluate your purchase yourself. If you aren't up
to that simple task then stay ashore. You don't have what it takes.

=============================

Nonsense.



Complete nonsense.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Gogarty wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:54:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Oh, give it a rest with the survey crap, why don't you? Why do you
recommend the abdication of personal responsibility with respect to
something he should easily be able to handle himself?

All it takes is to do a little reading and research. There is nothing on a
28-footer that an amateur cannot see and check for himself armed with some
basic knowledge and some small ability to think and analyze.

Professional surveys have their place but not on an older, basic 28-ft
sailboat. It's just not cost effective. The first step towards cruising
should be to know how to evaluate your purchase yourself. If you aren't up
to that simple task then stay ashore. You don't have what it takes.
=============================

Nonsense.

Agreed.


I think some of you missed what he said. This is a 22' Chrysler brand
sailboat, not a 28' anything.
Gordon

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:54:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Oh, give it a rest with the survey crap, why don't you? Why do you
recommend the abdication of personal responsibility with respect to
something he should easily be able to handle himself?

All it takes is to do a little reading and research. There is nothing on
a
28-footer that an amateur cannot see and check for himself armed with
some
basic knowledge and some small ability to think and analyze.

Professional surveys have their place but not on an older, basic 28-ft
sailboat. It's just not cost effective. The first step towards cruising
should be to know how to evaluate your purchase yourself. If you aren't
up
to that simple task then stay ashore. You don't have what it takes.

=============================

Nonsense.

Agreed.


A 2,000 dollar profession survey on a boat that the guy traded a VW engine
for? Yah, RIGHT! Looks like I am owed an apology.

Bwahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahah! You pro-survey people just lost any small
shred of credibility you might have had. Utter fools and knee-jerk, follow
the ignorant masses, brainwashed charlatans! Proven beyond a doubt in this
particular case . . .

Bw..b......b.......bwa....b.b...b..b Trying my best to not laugh at you
guys.

Wilbur Hubbard