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Capt. Rob August 20th 08 01:41 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 


Few of the old crowd still around...and that's sad. Ganzy's witch hunt
really chased away the fun. Oh well....

Heart of Gold is still sailing of course and her crew has been having
a blast.

With Thomas about to turn four we've been spending more weekends on
the boat and making short trips. Next season we plan to make two week-
long trips. The great news is how much he loves the boat. It's among
his favorite activities, so I feel we've done a good job in making him
part of the fun. The sacrifice was short sails and fewer nights
aboard. Now he demands to go sailing!

Cheers, everyone! As the 2008 season here wraps up I hope you all have
gotten some sailing in.



Robert B
35s5
NY


Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] August 20th 08 01:48 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
...


Few of the old crowd still around...and that's sad. Ganzy's witch hunt
really chased away the fun. Oh well....

Heart of Gold is still sailing of course and her crew has been having
a blast.

With Thomas about to turn four we've been spending more weekends on
the boat and making short trips. Next season we plan to make two week-
long trips. The great news is how much he loves the boat. It's among
his favorite activities, so I feel we've done a good job in making him
part of the fun. The sacrifice was short sails and fewer nights
aboard. Now he demands to go sailing!

Cheers, everyone! As the 2008 season here wraps up I hope you all have
gotten some sailing in.



Robert B
35s5
NY


Yes, Gaynz is still active with his netKKKopping activities but that's to be
expected. Once a psycho always a psycho!

Whatever happened to the new, larger boat from Ohio you said you were buying
with some of your spare change?

Wilbur Hubbard



[email protected] August 20th 08 02:02 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:41:02 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:



Few of the old crowd still around...and that's sad. Ganzy's witch hunt
really chased away the fun. Oh well....

Heart of Gold is still sailing of course and her crew has been having
a blast.

With Thomas about to turn four we've been spending more weekends on
the boat and making short trips. Next season we plan to make two week-
long trips. The great news is how much he loves the boat. It's among
his favorite activities, so I feel we've done a good job in making him
part of the fun. The sacrifice was short sails and fewer nights
aboard. Now he demands to go sailing!

Cheers, everyone! As the 2008 season here wraps up I hope you all have
gotten some sailing in.



Robert B
35s5
NY


Good to hear from you, Rob. Why is your season wrapping up so early?
There's almost 2 1/2 months left before November according to my
calendar. We just did a mini 3 day cruise spent mostly anchored in
Mattituck Inlet and exploring the area by dinghy. Great area for
photography. You could get there in two reasonably short days, with a
stopover in Pt Jeff.




Capt. JG August 20th 08 05:09 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:41:02 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:



Few of the old crowd still around...and that's sad. Ganzy's witch hunt
really chased away the fun. Oh well....

Heart of Gold is still sailing of course and her crew has been having
a blast.

With Thomas about to turn four we've been spending more weekends on
the boat and making short trips. Next season we plan to make two week-
long trips. The great news is how much he loves the boat. It's among
his favorite activities, so I feel we've done a good job in making him
part of the fun. The sacrifice was short sails and fewer nights
aboard. Now he demands to go sailing!

Cheers, everyone! As the 2008 season here wraps up I hope you all have
gotten some sailing in.



Robert B
35s5
NY


Good to hear from you, Rob. Why is your season wrapping up so early?
There's almost 2 1/2 months left before November according to my
calendar. We just did a mini 3 day cruise spent mostly anchored in
Mattituck Inlet and exploring the area by dinghy. Great area for
photography. You could get there in two reasonably short days, with a
stopover in Pt Jeff.


Now that's funny. Bob doesn't actually sail, but he sure has a nice boat!

It's nice to know that I'm still so powerful.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Donal August 20th 08 05:45 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
Capt. Rob wrote:



Few of the old crowd still around...and that's sad. Ganzy's witch hunt
really chased away the fun. Oh well....

Heart of Gold is still sailing of course and her crew has been having
a blast.

With Thomas about to turn four we've been spending more weekends on
the boat and making short trips.


I don't believe it. You're blaming Thomas!!
You always only made "short trips".

Next season we plan to make two week-
long trips.


I've been away for three years and you are still telling
us that you will make a long trip "next year".

The great news is how much he loves the boat. It's among
his favorite activities, so I feel we've done a good job in making him
part of the fun. The sacrifice was short sails and fewer nights
aboard.


Now he demands to go sailing!

I'm not surprised. He probably doesn't consider
your half a mile trips to be proper sailing.
Why should he? Nobody else does.




Cheers, everyone! As the 2008 season here wraps up I hope you all have
gotten some sailing in.


Seriously,its nice to see that you are enjoying
life. Until Thomas is 12 he will give you nothing
but happiness. He will then spend the next 5-6
years taking it all back again.


Regards

Donal
--


OzOne August 20th 08 11:31 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:41:02 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:



Few of the old crowd still around...and that's sad. Ganzy's witch hunt
really chased away the fun. Oh well....

Heart of Gold is still sailing of course and her crew has been having
a blast.

With Thomas about to turn four we've been spending more weekends on
the boat and making short trips. Next season we plan to make two week-
long trips. The great news is how much he loves the boat. It's among
his favorite activities, so I feel we've done a good job in making him
part of the fun. The sacrifice was short sails and fewer nights
aboard. Now he demands to go sailing!

Cheers, everyone! As the 2008 season here wraps up I hope you all have
gotten some sailing in.



Robert B
35s5
NY


Good to hear Bubbles.
Thought you were getting another boat?
I'm sailing very little these days, flying has become a passion.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Capt. Rob August 21st 08 04:21 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Aug 20, 6:31 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:41:02 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"



wrote:

Few of the old crowd still around...and that's sad. Ganzy's witch hunt
really chased away the fun. Oh well....


Heart of Gold is still sailing of course and her crew has been having
a blast.


With Thomas about to turn four we've been spending more weekends on
the boat and making short trips. Next season we plan to make two week-
long trips. The great news is how much he loves the boat. It's among
his favorite activities, so I feel we've done a good job in making him
part of the fun. The sacrifice was short sails and fewer nights
aboard. Now he demands to go sailing!


Cheers, everyone! As the 2008 season here wraps up I hope you all have
gotten some sailing in.


Robert B
35s5
NY


Good to hear Bubbles.
Thought you were getting another boat?
I'm sailing very little these days, flying has become a passion.

OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**





Indeed we were planning on a barely used C&C 121, but we decided to
hold off. The 35s5 is really a lot of fun and we certainly don't make
use of her comforts since we rarely stay aboard more than a weekend.
Thomas has a time-limit and we try to adhere to it. We've now seen a
LOT of families with kids who are not too hip on being aboard. The few
success stories we've seen were folks who didn't force it on their
kids and we've tried to do the same. Thomas asks to go sailing, but we
usually don't keep him out longer than he wants. Keep him wanting more
is the MO! It's working as now he often asks to sleep aboard as well.
So a upgrade is on hold. I added a beautiful 140% cruise-radial genoa
and am still flying the kevlar main. I still use the smaller pentax-
mylar on days where it's really blowing. As she is now, only J-boats
pass me and none-to-quickly. We're having a lot of fun and when winds
are light and the boat slows, Thomas yells, "What's the hold up?!"


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob August 21st 08 04:23 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Aug 20, 12:45 pm, Donal wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:

Few of the old crowd still around...and that's sad. Ganzy's witch hunt
really chased away the fun. Oh well....


Heart of Gold is still sailing of course and her crew has been having
a blast.


With Thomas about to turn four we've been spending more weekends on
the boat and making short trips.


I don't believe it. You're blaming Thomas!!
You always only made "short trips".

Next season we plan to make two week-
long trips.


I've been away for three years and you are still telling
us that you will make a long trip "next year".

The great news is how much he loves the boat. It's among
his favorite activities, so I feel we've done a good job in making him
part of the fun. The sacrifice was short sails and fewer nights
aboard.
Now he demands to go sailing!


I'm not surprised. He probably doesn't consider
your half a mile trips to be proper sailing.
Why should he? Nobody else does.



Cheers, everyone! As the 2008 season here wraps up I hope you all have
gotten some sailing in.


Seriously,its nice to see that you are enjoying
life. Until Thomas is 12 he will give you nothing
but happiness. He will then spend the next 5-6
years taking it all back again.




LOL, Donal. Everyone says the same thing! I'm in terror of the coming
years, but as you said...he's a joy for now and we're soaking that up
and giving him more than we ever had. Even the worst days are great.







RB
35s5
NY

Ringmaster August 31st 08 05:59 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
I thought I'd drop by and see if the resident bullcrapper is still
around and I see he is. I thought the Boob was going to start racing
this summer. I guess like every other part of his life that was a
joke too. Now he's blaming his lack of sailing time on that retard of
a kid he has. How's life in the Bronx with that skank wife these days
Boobie? Have you found a job yet or are you still making big bucks
dumpster diving at that poluted marina?


Capt. JG August 31st 08 06:55 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
"Ringmaster" wrote in message
...
I thought I'd drop by and see if the resident bullcrapper is still
around and I see he is. I thought the Boob was going to start racing
this summer. I guess like every other part of his life that was a
joke too. Now he's blaming his lack of sailing time on that retard of
a kid he has. How's life in the Bronx with that skank wife these days
Boobie? Have you found a job yet or are you still making big bucks
dumpster diving at that poluted marina?



He's only sort of around... this was his first post in months? How's life?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




[email protected] August 31st 08 11:55 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:55:41 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Ringmaster" wrote in message
...
I thought I'd drop by and see if the resident bullcrapper is still
around and I see he is. I thought the Boob was going to start racing
this summer. I guess like every other part of his life that was a
joke too. Now he's blaming his lack of sailing time on that retard of
a kid he has. How's life in the Bronx with that skank wife these days
Boobie? Have you found a job yet or are you still making big bucks
dumpster diving at that poluted marina?



He's only sort of around... this was his first post in months? How's life?


Sounds like Loco has been having a very hard time. Haven't seen
bitterness such as this here since... Well, probably never. Wonder
what went so wrong in his life that he harbors this sort of thinking
for so long after everyone else has moved on.



Capt. Rob August 31st 08 04:23 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Aug 31, 12:59 am, Ringmaster wrote:
I thought I'd drop by and see if the resident bullcrapper is still
around and I see he is. I thought the Boob was going to start racing
this summer. I guess like every other part of his life that was a
joke too. Now he's blaming his lack of sailing time on that retard of
a kid he has. How's life in the Bronx with that skank wife these days
Boobie? Have you found a job yet or are you still making big bucks
dumpster diving at that poluted marina?




Wow....well I'm sailing in two hours, Loco. And my sweet boy will be
joining me. I just added a light weight Genoa (a cruise-radial) to my
boat and today will be good to experiment with it. I've sailed a lot
this summer, but a 3rd of it has been on other boats. We hooked up
with some local sailors with kids, so there's been a lot of boat time
not always aboard Heart of Gold.
In addition I'm sure you'd like to see my mostly completed theater
with HD sources and 120 inch screen. It's utterly film quality and
looks better than most small to mid size theaters. Sound is perfect!

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p3696847-5.jpg

As I'm sure you're wondering, the cost of the whole theater was under
20K. Last night we watched The Mist and tomorrow it will be Nightmare
Before Christmas for Thomas on Blu-Ray. I'm running two projectors at
1080 and 720. Sound is via Magnepan and SVS speakers with Hybrid tubes
and so on...all high end, better for music than HT though.

Ah, I'm sure you want to know how I'm doing with fast cars. Well, I
got stung after driving a Nissan GT-R. What a car! But it's close to
100K for one and they are all gone for the year. So I'm on the list
with our dealer in New Rochelle for the following shipment at 10%
invoice. Still, to do that I'll wait at least a year. Meanwhile, to
keep my skills up I've ordered a sweet Exo X GSR in Graphite Gray
Pearl. Car looks like this....

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p881008607.jpg

I'm sure you've never driven a car with AYC, but you should. It
handles better than any other sedan and bests a Cayman S or M3 in
cornering. At just under 300 HP it's slow. 0-60 in 4.9 seconds. But my
car will go to Ivey tuning for a small tune to 390. That will bring
her into 4.3 range and better 1/4 miles. But with low end grunt at
that point the car is just wonderful. I drove one with 440 HP, but it
was a bit too much and I'd like to clutch to last me until I get the
GT-R. Two other cars I considered were the Lotus Exige, which I had to
drop due to leg room and no back seats. The 911 AWD turbo was in the
mix (a 2005 model) but amazingly it's legroom for tall drivers is
poor. The Evo is a great fit for now.

Thomas is growing up fast and having a great time aboard and at our
home in the woods.

Other than that things are great. I hope they are well with you as
well.


Cheers,


The Good Captain, AKA RB
Heart of Gold
City Island, NY

Ringmaster August 31st 08 11:08 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

Sounds like Loco has been having a very hard time. Haven't seen
bitterness such as this here since... Well, probably never. Wonder
what went so wrong in his life that he harbors this sort of thinking
for so long after everyone else has moved on..


Not at all. Life couldn't be better. My wife started her own company
and I'm just the cute guy in the mailroom. I go sailing almost every
day.


[email protected] August 31st 08 11:23 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Ringmaster
wrote:


Sounds like Loco has been having a very hard time. Haven't seen
bitterness such as this here since... Well, probably never. Wonder
what went so wrong in his life that he harbors this sort of thinking
for so long after everyone else has moved on..


Not at all. Life couldn't be better. My wife started her own company
and I'm just the cute guy in the mailroom. I go sailing almost every
day.


Glad to hear it, Loco. Your other post made me wonder.


Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] September 1st 08 12:03 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Ringmaster
wrote:


Sounds like Loco has been having a very hard time. Haven't seen
bitterness such as this here since... Well, probably never. Wonder
what went so wrong in his life that he harbors this sort of thinking
for so long after everyone else has moved on..


Not at all. Life couldn't be better. My wife started her own company
and I'm just the cute guy in the mailroom. I go sailing almost every
day.


Glad to hear it, Loco. Your other post made me wonder.


I thought Loco's post was entirely appropriate. Considering how Bobsprit has
stalked him and bad-mouthed him (and his) continuously for a period of
years, I'd say turnabout is fair play.

It's a good thing Bobsprit hides so well. He's never showed up one single
solitary time to meet with or race with anybody. He fears somebody just
might punch him right in his pimply face because of the way he's acted. His
fears are valid.

Bobsprit is a creep. He regularly says the most hateful things about some
fine people. The late great Ronald Reagan, for example.

Wilbur Hubbard



Redbeard September 1st 08 02:20 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
...
On Aug 31, 12:59 am, Ringmaster wrote:
I thought I'd drop by and see if the resident bullcrapper is still
around and I see he is. I thought the Boob was going to start racing
this summer. I guess like every other part of his life that was a
joke too. Now he's blaming his lack of sailing time on that retard of
a kid he has. How's life in the Bronx with that skank wife these days
Boobie? Have you found a job yet or are you still making big bucks
dumpster diving at that poluted marina?




Wow....well I'm sailing in two hours, Loco. And my sweet boy will be
joining me. I just added a light weight Genoa (a cruise-radial) to my
boat and today will be good to experiment with it. I've sailed a lot
this summer, but a 3rd of it has been on other boats. We hooked up
with some local sailors with kids, so there's been a lot of boat time
not always aboard Heart of Gold.
In addition I'm sure you'd like to see my mostly completed theater
with HD sources and 120 inch screen. It's utterly film quality and
looks better than most small to mid size theaters. Sound is perfect!

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p3696847-5.jpg

As I'm sure you're wondering, the cost of the whole theater was under
20K. Last night we watched The Mist and tomorrow it will be Nightmare
Before Christmas for Thomas on Blu-Ray. I'm running two projectors at
1080 and 720. Sound is via Magnepan and SVS speakers with Hybrid tubes
and so on...all high end, better for music than HT though.

Ah, I'm sure you want to know how I'm doing with fast cars. Well, I
got stung after driving a Nissan GT-R. What a car! But it's close to
100K for one and they are all gone for the year. So I'm on the list
with our dealer in New Rochelle for the following shipment at 10%
invoice. Still, to do that I'll wait at least a year. Meanwhile, to
keep my skills up I've ordered a sweet Exo X GSR in Graphite Gray
Pearl. Car looks like this....

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p881008607.jpg

I'm sure you've never driven a car with AYC, but you should. It
handles better than any other sedan and bests a Cayman S or M3 in
cornering. At just under 300 HP it's slow. 0-60 in 4.9 seconds. But my
car will go to Ivey tuning for a small tune to 390. That will bring
her into 4.3 range and better 1/4 miles. But with low end grunt at
that point the car is just wonderful. I drove one with 440 HP, but it
was a bit too much and I'd like to clutch to last me until I get the
GT-R. Two other cars I considered were the Lotus Exige, which I had to
drop due to leg room and no back seats. The 911 AWD turbo was in the
mix (a 2005 model) but amazingly it's legroom for tall drivers is
poor. The Evo is a great fit for now.

Thomas is growing up fast and having a great time aboard and at our
home in the woods.

Other than that things are great. I hope they are well with you as
well.


Cheers,


The Good Captain, AKA RB
Heart of Gold
City Island, NY



I've love to see a picture of a big, expensive car parked in front of your
house. Make sure the house is in the photo.



Capt. Rob September 1st 08 02:22 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Aug 31, 7:03 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Ringmaster
wrote:


Sounds like Loco has been having a very hard time. Haven't seen
bitterness such as this here since... Well, probably never. Wonder
what went so wrong in his life that he harbors this sort of thinking
for so long after everyone else has moved on..


Not at all. Life couldn't be better. My wife started her own company
and I'm just the cute guy in the mailroom. I go sailing almost every
day.


Glad to hear it, Loco. Your other post made me wonder.


I thought Loco's post was entirely appropriate. Considering how Bobsprit has
stalked him and bad-mouthed him (and his) continuously for a period of
years, I'd say turnabout is fair play.

It's a good thing Bobsprit hides so well. He's never showed up one single
solitary time to meet with or race with anybody. He fears somebody just
might punch him right in his pimply face because of the way he's acted. His
fears are valid.

Bobsprit is a creep. He regularly says the most hateful things about some
fine people. The late great Ronald Reagan, for example.

Wilbur Hubbard




Hides so well?
I'll be at 150 City Island Ave. today from 12-5 pm. I'm sailing aboard
a 56 foot cutter rigged sloop, but I'll be aboard helping to install a
shower sump before we hoist. I'll also be at the yard EVERY day this
week doing surveys. I'm easy to find and I'd be happy to sail against
anyone who comes along. We sailed yesterday with the new genoa and
passed everything under sail...until we met a big Swan. Wind was gone
by 3:30 so we went swimming and then headed back for the slip where my
kid had a blast with his RC boat!

Cheers!


The Good Captain
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob September 1st 08 02:36 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

I've love to see a picture of a big, expensive car parked in front of your
house. Make sure the house is in the photo.




Why? The most expensive car I currently own a lightly modded Subaru
Turbo LGT sedan.....only around 30K, so hardly expensive....

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p525689812-5.jpg

The new Evo coming soon is just 41K, again not all that expensive. I
suppose when the GT-R comes that's pretty pricey, but still not what
I'd call crazy.

I've posted pics of my house in NY before. I also own nearby lakefront
property with partners. Sure, I've done better than Sloco on every
front, but why is that important to you. Someone always has better
fortune. My camera gear bought in the last 24 months cost more than
Sloco's poor dated tub of a boat.

Going sailing....see ya!


The Good Captain
35s5 NY



Redbeard September 1st 08 07:42 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
...

I've love to see a picture of a big, expensive car parked in front of
your
house. Make sure the house is in the photo.




Why? The most expensive car I currently own a lightly modded Subaru
Turbo LGT sedan.....only around 30K, so hardly expensive....

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p525689812-5.jpg

The new Evo coming soon is just 41K, again not all that expensive. I
suppose when the GT-R comes that's pretty pricey, but still not what
I'd call crazy.


Parked in front of your house it is.


I've posted pics of my house in NY before. I also own nearby lakefront
property with partners. Sure, I've done better than Sloco on every
front, but why is that important to you.



It's not important at all.


Someone always has better
fortune. My camera gear bought in the last 24 months cost more than
Sloco's poor dated tub of a boat.


But you can't sail a camera!


Going sailing....see ya!


See ya in 3 hours!

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!



OzOne September 2nd 08 01:54 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:23:44 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:

On Aug 31, 12:59 am, Ringmaster wrote:
I thought I'd drop by and see if the resident bullcrapper is still
around and I see he is. I thought the Boob was going to start racing
this summer. I guess like every other part of his life that was a
joke too. Now he's blaming his lack of sailing time on that retard of
a kid he has. How's life in the Bronx with that skank wife these days
Boobie? Have you found a job yet or are you still making big bucks
dumpster diving at that poluted marina?




Wow....well I'm sailing in two hours, Loco. And my sweet boy will be
joining me. I just added a light weight Genoa (a cruise-radial) to my
boat and today will be good to experiment with it. I've sailed a lot
this summer, but a 3rd of it has been on other boats. We hooked up
with some local sailors with kids, so there's been a lot of boat time
not always aboard Heart of Gold.
In addition I'm sure you'd like to see my mostly completed theater
with HD sources and 120 inch screen. It's utterly film quality and
looks better than most small to mid size theaters. Sound is perfect!

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p3696847-5.jpg

As I'm sure you're wondering, the cost of the whole theater was under
20K. Last night we watched The Mist and tomorrow it will be Nightmare
Before Christmas for Thomas on Blu-Ray. I'm running two projectors at
1080 and 720. Sound is via Magnepan and SVS speakers with Hybrid tubes
and so on...all high end, better for music than HT though.

Ah, I'm sure you want to know how I'm doing with fast cars. Well, I
got stung after driving a Nissan GT-R. What a car! But it's close to
100K for one and they are all gone for the year. So I'm on the list
with our dealer in New Rochelle for the following shipment at 10%
invoice. Still, to do that I'll wait at least a year. Meanwhile, to
keep my skills up I've ordered a sweet Exo X GSR in Graphite Gray
Pearl. Car looks like this....

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p881008607.jpg

I'm sure you've never driven a car with AYC, but you should. It
handles better than any other sedan and bests a Cayman S or M3 in
cornering. At just under 300 HP it's slow. 0-60 in 4.9 seconds. But my
car will go to Ivey tuning for a small tune to 390. That will bring
her into 4.3 range and better 1/4 miles. But with low end grunt at
that point the car is just wonderful. I drove one with 440 HP, but it
was a bit too much and I'd like to clutch to last me until I get the
GT-R. Two other cars I considered were the Lotus Exige, which I had to
drop due to leg room and no back seats. The 911 AWD turbo was in the
mix (a 2005 model) but amazingly it's legroom for tall drivers is
poor. The Evo is a great fit for now.

Thomas is growing up fast and having a great time aboard and at our
home in the woods.

Other than that things are great. I hope they are well with you as
well.


Cheers,


The Good Captain, AKA RB
Heart of Gold
City Island, NY


Hey Bubbles,
I too have ordered an EvoX, still waiting for their release here in Oz
which was originally touted for April...then August...and still I
wait, probably because they are struggling to supply these fantastic
cars to the US market.
Have you driven one?
I was lucky enough to have a go of a pre release one and I can assure
you it's spectacular and even more impressive than the IX.

Sold my IX while it was still a current mdel and bought a Mitsu Legnum
VR4 as a stopgap. It has the same drivetrain as the Evo8 IIRC powered
by a twin turboed 2,5L V6....
and is a whole lot of fun for a wagon!!




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

OzOne September 2nd 08 01:55 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:20:48 -0600, "Redbeard"
wrote:




I've love to see a picture of a big, expensive car parked in front of your
house. Make sure the house is in the photo.


Oh he will......He likes to rub it in to the doubters.
BTW there are pics somewhere of he and the family on the verandah
(porch to you).




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Redbeard September 2nd 08 03:23 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:20:48 -0600, "Redbeard"
wrote:




I've love to see a picture of a big, expensive car parked in front of your
house. Make sure the house is in the photo.


Oh he will......He likes to rub it in to the doubters.
BTW there are pics somewhere of he and the family on the verandah
(porch to you).


I have no doubts he has a house. I just love to see pictures of it,
especially with the semi annual new car parked out front or photos of the
home theater or camera gear.



Capt. Rob September 2nd 08 04:03 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Sep 1, 8:54 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:23:44 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"



wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:59 am, Ringmaster wrote:
I thought I'd drop by and see if the resident bullcrapper is still
around and I see he is. I thought the Boob was going to start racing
this summer. I guess like every other part of his life that was a
joke too. Now he's blaming his lack of sailing time on that retard of
a kid he has. How's life in the Bronx with that skank wife these days
Boobie? Have you found a job yet or are you still making big bucks
dumpster diving at that poluted marina?


Wow....well I'm sailing in two hours, Loco. And my sweet boy will be
joining me. I just added a light weight Genoa (a cruise-radial) to my
boat and today will be good to experiment with it. I've sailed a lot
this summer, but a 3rd of it has been on other boats. We hooked up
with some local sailors with kids, so there's been a lot of boat time
not always aboard Heart of Gold.
In addition I'm sure you'd like to see my mostly completed theater
with HD sources and 120 inch screen. It's utterly film quality and
looks better than most small to mid size theaters. Sound is perfect!


http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p3696847-5.jpg


As I'm sure you're wondering, the cost of the whole theater was under
20K. Last night we watched The Mist and tomorrow it will be Nightmare
Before Christmas for Thomas on Blu-Ray. I'm running two projectors at
1080 and 720. Sound is via Magnepan and SVS speakers with Hybrid tubes
and so on...all high end, better for music than HT though.


Ah, I'm sure you want to know how I'm doing with fast cars. Well, I
got stung after driving a Nissan GT-R. What a car! But it's close to
100K for one and they are all gone for the year. So I'm on the list
with our dealer in New Rochelle for the following shipment at 10%
invoice. Still, to do that I'll wait at least a year. Meanwhile, to
keep my skills up I've ordered a sweet Exo X GSR in Graphite Gray
Pearl. Car looks like this....


http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p881008607.jpg


I'm sure you've never driven a car with AYC, but you should. It
handles better than any other sedan and bests a Cayman S or M3 in
cornering. At just under 300 HP it's slow. 0-60 in 4.9 seconds. But my
car will go to Ivey tuning for a small tune to 390. That will bring
her into 4.3 range and better 1/4 miles. But with low end grunt at
that point the car is just wonderful. I drove one with 440 HP, but it
was a bit too much and I'd like to clutch to last me until I get the
GT-R. Two other cars I considered were the Lotus Exige, which I had to
drop due to leg room and no back seats. The 911 AWD turbo was in the
mix (a 2005 model) but amazingly it's legroom for tall drivers is
poor. The Evo is a great fit for now.


Thomas is growing up fast and having a great time aboard and at our
home in the woods.


Other than that things are great. I hope they are well with you as
well.


Cheers,


The Good Captain, AKA RB
Heart of Gold
City Island, NY


Hey Bubbles,
I too have ordered an EvoX, still waiting for their release here in Oz
which was originally touted for April...then August...and still I
wait, probably because they are struggling to supply these fantastic
cars to the US market.
Have you driven one?
I was lucky enough to have a go of a pre release one and I can assure
you it's spectacular and even more impressive than the IX.

Sold my IX while it was still a current mdel and bought a Mitsu Legnum
VR4 as a stopgap. It has the same drivetrain as the Evo8 IIRC powered
by a twin turboed 2,5L V6....
and is a whole lot of fun for a wagon!!

OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**




Hey, Ozzy! How ya been?

I've driven both the GSR and MR. I chose the GSR 5 speed because I
know for a fact the tranny is tougher. Having said that I will admit
that the SST automatic almost caught me. I've driven some very high
end automatics and the SST in the Evo X MR is soooo good that I could
live with it happily. Much of the time I had to admit that the damn
thing was doing a better job than I could and I'm pretty quick with a
clutch. Still, my car is getting a flash tune and I'm worried that the
MR tranny really isn't all that tough. It's also nearly impossible to
service, so I rather go through a clutch than a whole tranny.
The car IS amazing. My buddy drives a AWD 911 Turbo and in spite of
that car's power advantage, the Evo seems to make high speed cornering
even better...and it's got two extra doors and back seats. After the
small mod to the computer my Evo will have 370 HP. The stock tune is
pretty weak. I drove one with the mod and it was far better...quicker
to be sure.
I'm getting it with Navigation, Fosgate audio and the Aero/SSS
package. I was angry that the GSR had no leather option, so I've
arranged for the install of the European Mitsubishi leather for
another 1300 bucks. The standard cloth is not very good.
You'll love it...a truly great car to drive and Thomas fits in the
back seat!


The Good Captain
35s5
NY

OzOne September 2nd 08 11:00 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:23:48 -0600, "Redbeard"
wrote:


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:20:48 -0600, "Redbeard"
wrote:




I've love to see a picture of a big, expensive car parked in front of your
house. Make sure the house is in the photo.


Oh he will......He likes to rub it in to the doubters.
BTW there are pics somewhere of he and the family on the verandah
(porch to you).


I have no doubts he has a house. I just love to see pictures of it,
especially with the semi annual new car parked out front or photos of the
home theater or camera gear.


Heh heh...he's done it all before...You must be new around here.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

OzOne September 2nd 08 11:05 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:03:19 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:


Hey, Ozzy! How ya been?


Great.....except for a couple of broken ribs about 6 weeks ago from a
skiing fall.

I've driven both the GSR and MR. I chose the GSR 5 speed because I
know for a fact the tranny is tougher. Having said that I will admit
that the SST automatic almost caught me. I've driven some very high
end automatics and the SST in the Evo X MR is soooo good that I could
live with it happily. Much of the time I had to admit that the damn
thing was doing a better job than I could and I'm pretty quick with a
clutch. Still, my car is getting a flash tune and I'm worried that the
MR tranny really isn't all that tough. It's also nearly impossible to
service, so I rather go through a clutch than a whole tranny.
The car IS amazing. My buddy drives a AWD 911 Turbo and in spite of
that car's power advantage, the Evo seems to make high speed cornering
even better...and it's got two extra doors and back seats. After the
small mod to the computer my Evo will have 370 HP. The stock tune is
pretty weak. I drove one with the mod and it was far better...quicker
to be sure.
I'm getting it with Navigation, Fosgate audio and the Aero/SSS
package. I was angry that the GSR had no leather option, so I've
arranged for the install of the European Mitsubishi leather for
another 1300 bucks. The standard cloth is not very good.
You'll love it...a truly great car to drive and Thomas fits in the
back seat!


The Good Captain
35s5
NY


Yep, great car.
I went for the sst after driving the car.
I ticked all the boxes on the option form, but won't know what I'll be
getting until the car is actually released here and the order can be
firmed up with what we can actually get.
I'll let you know.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Capt. Rob September 2nd 08 12:03 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Sep 2, 6:05 am, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:03:19 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"

wrote:
Hey, Ozzy! How ya been?


Great.....except for a couple of broken ribs about 6 weeks ago from a
skiing fall.





I've driven both the GSR and MR. I chose the GSR 5 speed because I
know for a fact the tranny is tougher. Having said that I will admit
that the SST automatic almost caught me. I've driven some very high
end automatics and the SST in the Evo X MR is soooo good that I could
live with it happily. Much of the time I had to admit that the damn
thing was doing a better job than I could and I'm pretty quick with a
clutch. Still, my car is getting a flash tune and I'm worried that the
MR tranny really isn't all that tough. It's also nearly impossible to
service, so I rather go through a clutch than a whole tranny.
The car IS amazing. My buddy drives a AWD 911 Turbo and in spite of
that car's power advantage, the Evo seems to make high speed cornering
even better...and it's got two extra doors and back seats. After the
small mod to the computer my Evo will have 370 HP. The stock tune is
pretty weak. I drove one with the mod and it was far better...quicker
to be sure.
I'm getting it with Navigation, Fosgate audio and the Aero/SSS
package. I was angry that the GSR had no leather option, so I've
arranged for the install of the European Mitsubishi leather for
another 1300 bucks. The standard cloth is not very good.
You'll love it...a truly great car to drive and Thomas fits in the
back seat!


The Good Captain
35s5
NY


Yep, great car.
I went for the sst after driving the car.
I ticked all the boxes on the option form, but won't know what I'll be
getting until the car is actually released here and the order can be
firmed up with what we can actually get.
I'll let you know.

OzOne of the three twins



Ozzy, the SST is a ton of fun and a better daily driver than the GSR
since it has a taller final gear for highway cruising. It's truly an
amazing system better than any other. Which color did you pick??!!!



R.

OzOne September 2nd 08 12:37 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 04:03:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:



Ozzy, the SST is a ton of fun and a better daily driver than the GSR
since it has a taller final gear for highway cruising. It's truly an
amazing system better than any other. Which color did you pick??!!!



R.


I've opted for the rally red.
We get very few of these types here so waiting for 'your' car may take
months.
MR will suit me better as I still do a little racing on weekends so
the better springs, dampers and two piece disks will suit.
There is talk that the leather trim will be std on the MR when
released here so they've made a note that I'll take it if
available..if not the cloth will have to do.

Apparently I'm a preferred customer because I've owned an EVO
previously and will get to choose what car I want from whatever
actually arrives.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Redbeard September 2nd 08 04:00 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:23:48 -0600, "Redbeard"
wrote:


OzOne wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:20:48 -0600, "Redbeard"
wrote:




I've love to see a picture of a big, expensive car parked in front of
your
house. Make sure the house is in the photo.


Oh he will......He likes to rub it in to the doubters.
BTW there are pics somewhere of he and the family on the verandah
(porch to you).


I have no doubts he has a house. I just love to see pictures of it,
especially with the semi annual new car parked out front or photos of the
home theater or camera gear.


Heh heh...he's done it all before...You must be new around here.



Yes, I am. I am a big fan of the tv show "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous"
but since that went off the air I can no longer get a glimpse of luxurious
living. I'm hoping I can see the good captain's rich and famous lifestyle.
Someone mentioned it was playing over on YouTube but I can't find it.



Redbeard September 2nd 08 04:25 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:03:19 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:


Hey, Ozzy! How ya been?


Great.....except for a couple of broken ribs about 6 weeks ago from a
skiing fall.


You seem to be prone to skiing accidents. A few lessons may be in order. Do
you wear a helmet?



Redbeard September 2nd 08 04:38 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
...

Ozzy, the SST is a ton of fun and a better daily driver than the GSR
since it has a taller final gear for highway cruising. It's truly an
amazing system better than any other. Which color did you pick??!!!



I thought only rednecks had fun burning up gasoline. I guess one learns
something new everyday. If you don't get the color you like you can always
have it repainted by a high end paint shop. If you're going low end by
chosing cowhide seats don't settle for anything less than Galluser leather.
I prefer boar's hide for seats myself. The durability is second to none, I
use it on the seats and grips of my Schleicher ASH25.



Donal September 2nd 08 06:03 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
Capt. Rob wrote:

My camera gear bought in the last 24 months cost more than
Sloco's poor dated tub of a boat.


Have you managed to do any astrophotography
yet? ...... or have you given up?

Regards

Donal
--
www.astroimaging.org.uk







Capt. Rob September 3rd 08 02:23 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Sep 2, 1:03 pm, Donal wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
My camera gear bought in the last 24 months cost more than
Sloco's poor dated tub of a boat.


Have you managed to do any astrophotography
yet? ...... or have you given up?

Regards

Donal
-- www.astroimaging.org.uk




Donal, I now own a Celestron CPC-800 GPS. It's quite a machine and
I've messed around with some wide field stuff using my Nikon gear.

This is M31 over my house...single short exposure using a Nikon D300.

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p677285558-5.jpg

Now that I own a D700 I plan to really have some fun in the fall.
Other than that I've doing mostly visual work with the scope. The GPS
is amazing, allowing me to see many more objects in a session than
ever before. This is my scope...

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p883681020-5.jpg

I'm still planning to build an observatory for a 14 inch system soon,
but I have to do some landscaping for it 1st.

Cheers,


The Good Captain
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob September 3rd 08 02:30 AM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Sep 2, 7:37 am, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 04:03:05 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"

wrote:

Ozzy, the SST is a ton of fun and a better daily driver than the GSR
since it has a taller final gear for highway cruising. It's truly an
amazing system better than any other. Which color did you pick??!!!


R.


I've opted for the rally red.
We get very few of these types here so waiting for 'your' car may take
months.
MR will suit me better as I still do a little racing on weekends so
the better springs, dampers and two piece disks will suit.
There is talk that the leather trim will be std on the MR when
released here so they've made a note that I'll take it if
available..if not the cloth will have to do.




The MR gets leather for certain, but I don't know if you'll get the US
or European leather package. The GSR suspension is a bit better than
the MR stock, but the MR brakes saves a bit of weight. MR's appeared
to have a tiny advantage on the track, but that's slowly changing now.
I found the MR noticeably softer, but a good trade off for daily
driving. And you can always tune a suspension. A GSR will always be
faster off the line of course, but it takes a LOT of skill to shift
the GSR as well as the SST does for you on twisty roads.
I just got back from my dealer and we're buying the Evo and a new
Outlander as well. I'm still torn between the Rally Red and the
Graphite Gray. BTW, the Rockford Fosgate audio system may be the best
stock stereo I ever heard and the Navigation and music server system
works great as well.




R.

OzOne September 3rd 08 01:56 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:25:34 -0600, "Redbeard"
wrote:


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:03:19 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:


Hey, Ozzy! How ya been?


Great.....except for a couple of broken ribs about 6 weeks ago from a
skiing fall.


You seem to be prone to skiing accidents. A few lessons may be in order. Do
you wear a helmet?


Not really prone...I do a lot of skiing and ski quite hard so I fall
now and then...usually hard.
Yep I wear a helmet.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Donal September 3rd 08 05:15 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
Capt. Rob wrote:

On Sep 2, 1:03 pm, Donal wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote:
My camera gear bought in the last 24 months cost more than
Sloco's poor dated tub of a boat.


Have you managed to do any astrophotography
yet? ...... or have you given up?

Regards

Donal
-- www.astroimaging.org.uk




Donal, I now own a Celestron CPC-800 GPS. It's quite a machine and
I've messed around with some wide field stuff using my Nikon gear.

This is M31 over my house...single short exposure using a Nikon D300.

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p677285558-5.jpg



Very nice. I'm astonished at how little light pollution
you have. I thought that you lived near NY????

Here is a photo of the same object that I took recently.
http://www.astroimaging.org.uk/tener.../donal/M31.htm

It isn't great, but it is only 36m exposure. I'll try to get
more on it if the sky ever clears.


Now that I own a D700 I plan to really have some fun in the fall.
Other than that I've doing mostly visual work with the scope. The GPS
is amazing, allowing me to see many more objects in a session than
ever before. This is my scope...

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p883681020-5.jpg

I'm still planning to build an observatory for a 14 inch system soon,
but I have to do some landscaping for it 1st.


If you are planning to do astrophotography, then you should
not buy an expensive scope until you *really* know what you
want. Most people give up because they started with
the wrong scope(Long focal length and high F ratio).
I'm on my third scope, second mount, and third camera -
and all in only three years.


Regards

Donal
--


Jeff September 3rd 08 06:18 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
Donal wrote:



I'm astonished at how little light pollution
you have. I thought that you lived near NY????

Here is a photo of the same object that I took recently.
http://www.astroimaging.org.uk/tener.../donal/M31.htm

It isn't great, but it is only 36m exposure. I'll try to get
more on it if the sky ever clears.


Very impressive. I never get a sky like that near Boston. However,
here's a picture of the same object I took from a higher perspective.

http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/8000105.jpg

OK, I was not the lead scientist, but almost all of the data processing
software, from decoding the telemetry to putting the picture on the
display was written by me, and I was at the keyboard when the NASA
photographer took this picture of the screen. In '78 color displays
were so uncommon that we didn't pass around picture files, we
photographed the screen, usually with Polaroids, but 35mm for
publication. Each little red dot is actually one x-ray photon, focused
by a "grazing incidence mirror system." Magic! This picture was one of
the first we got of a nearby galaxy showing individual x-ray sources,
so it caused quite a stir.

More on the pic:
http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=1560

and instrument:
http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ei...ao2_about.html

Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] September 3rd 08 06:42 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

"jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Donal wrote:



I'm astonished at how little light pollution
you have. I thought that you lived near NY????

Here is a photo of the same object that I took recently.
http://www.astroimaging.org.uk/tener.../donal/M31.htm

It isn't great, but it is only 36m exposure. I'll try to get
more on it if the sky ever clears.


Very impressive. I never get a sky like that near Boston. However,
here's a picture of the same object I took from a higher perspective.

http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/8000105.jpg

OK, I was not the lead scientist, but almost all of the data processing
software, from decoding the telemetry to putting the picture on the
display was written by me, and I was at the keyboard when the NASA
photographer took this picture of the screen. In '78 color displays were
so uncommon that we didn't pass around picture files, we photographed the
screen, usually with Polaroids, but 35mm for publication. Each little red
dot is actually one x-ray photon, focused by a "grazing incidence mirror
system." Magic! This picture was one of the first we got of a nearby
galaxy showing individual x-ray sources, so it caused quite a stir.

More on the pic:
http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=1560

and instrument:
http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ei...ao2_about.html




I just don't get it. Why would anybody waste their time and money futzing
around with tiny little amateur lenses taking tiny little amateur deep space
photographs when there are millions of REAL large and detailed photos
available from Hubble alone? You could look at them your entire life and
not see them all.

Seems to me this amateur snapshot-taking becomes more and more of a waste of
time as time passes and anything but the very large and very large array
telescopes taking photographs is a joke.

But, even worse is when people start bragging about how great their inferior
little lenses are. There's nothing great about them. They're tiny and
they're a joke. The photos taken by them are tiny, inferior and a joke as
well.

What you are doing is using technology that is on par with two tin cans and
a string for a telephone. You shoot BB guns and eschew the howitzers. And
you're proud of it? And you're happy with it. I just don't get it. Perhaps
there's something I'm missing. Perhaps somebody could answer the question:
"Where's the beef?"

Wilbur Hubbard



[email protected] September 3rd 08 06:51 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:42:42 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"jeff" wrote in message
...
Donal wrote:



I'm astonished at how little light pollution
you have. I thought that you lived near NY????

Here is a photo of the same object that I took recently.
http://www.astroimaging.org.uk/tener.../donal/M31.htm

It isn't great, but it is only 36m exposure. I'll try to get
more on it if the sky ever clears.


Very impressive. I never get a sky like that near Boston. However,
here's a picture of the same object I took from a higher perspective.

http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/8000105.jpg

OK, I was not the lead scientist, but almost all of the data processing
software, from decoding the telemetry to putting the picture on the
display was written by me, and I was at the keyboard when the NASA
photographer took this picture of the screen. In '78 color displays were
so uncommon that we didn't pass around picture files, we photographed the
screen, usually with Polaroids, but 35mm for publication. Each little red
dot is actually one x-ray photon, focused by a "grazing incidence mirror
system." Magic! This picture was one of the first we got of a nearby
galaxy showing individual x-ray sources, so it caused quite a stir.

More on the pic:
http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=1560

and instrument:
http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ei...ao2_about.html




I just don't get it. Why would anybody waste their time and money futzing
around with tiny little amateur lenses taking tiny little amateur deep space
photographs when there are millions of REAL large and detailed photos
available from Hubble alone? You could look at them your entire life and
not see them all.

Seems to me this amateur snapshot-taking becomes more and more of a waste of
time as time passes and anything but the very large and very large array
telescopes taking photographs is a joke.

But, even worse is when people start bragging about how great their inferior
little lenses are. There's nothing great about them. They're tiny and
they're a joke. The photos taken by them are tiny, inferior and a joke as
well.

What you are doing is using technology that is on par with two tin cans and
a string for a telephone. You shoot BB guns and eschew the howitzers. And
you're proud of it? And you're happy with it. I just don't get it. Perhaps
there's something I'm missing. Perhaps somebody could answer the question:
"Where's the beef?"

Wilbur Hubbard


As a kid, my buddies and I used to compete with each other seeing who
could shoot dragonflys out of the air with a sling-shot or BB gun.

Doing it with howitzers would not have made it a better competition.

Why run marathons when you can hail a cab or take a bus? How stupid is
THAT?

Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] September 3rd 08 07:14 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:42:42 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"jeff" wrote in message
m...
Donal wrote:



I'm astonished at how little light pollution
you have. I thought that you lived near NY????

Here is a photo of the same object that I took recently.
http://www.astroimaging.org.uk/tener.../donal/M31.htm

It isn't great, but it is only 36m exposure. I'll try to get
more on it if the sky ever clears.


Very impressive. I never get a sky like that near Boston. However,
here's a picture of the same object I took from a higher perspective.

http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/IMAGES/MEDIUM/8000105.jpg

OK, I was not the lead scientist, but almost all of the data processing
software, from decoding the telemetry to putting the picture on the
display was written by me, and I was at the keyboard when the NASA
photographer took this picture of the screen. In '78 color displays
were
so uncommon that we didn't pass around picture files, we photographed
the
screen, usually with Polaroids, but 35mm for publication. Each little
red
dot is actually one x-ray photon, focused by a "grazing incidence mirror
system." Magic! This picture was one of the first we got of a nearby
galaxy showing individual x-ray sources, so it caused quite a stir.

More on the pic:
http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=1560

and instrument:
http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ei...ao2_about.html




I just don't get it. Why would anybody waste their time and money futzing
around with tiny little amateur lenses taking tiny little amateur deep
space
photographs when there are millions of REAL large and detailed photos
available from Hubble alone? You could look at them your entire life and
not see them all.

Seems to me this amateur snapshot-taking becomes more and more of a waste
of
time as time passes and anything but the very large and very large array
telescopes taking photographs is a joke.

But, even worse is when people start bragging about how great their
inferior
little lenses are. There's nothing great about them. They're tiny and
they're a joke. The photos taken by them are tiny, inferior and a joke as
well.

What you are doing is using technology that is on par with two tin cans
and
a string for a telephone. You shoot BB guns and eschew the howitzers. And
you're proud of it? And you're happy with it. I just don't get it. Perhaps
there's something I'm missing. Perhaps somebody could answer the question:
"Where's the beef?"

Wilbur Hubbard


As a kid, my buddies and I used to compete with each other seeing who
could shoot dragonflys out of the air with a sling-shot or BB gun.

Doing it with howitzers would not have made it a better competition.

Why run marathons when you can hail a cab or take a bus? How stupid is
THAT?



So, you're saying the reward is in the finesse? The ability to finesse
inferior technology and like it? Be satisfied with it? I just don't have
standards that are that low.

And, I agree with you on running marathons - pretty stupid. Any sane athlete
pedals a lightweight, aero, race bicycle. That's where the money is. That's
where true physical fitness and stamina is developed. That's where the
respect and glory is. That's where real men compete.

Wilbur Hubbard



[email protected] September 3rd 08 07:22 PM

35s5 Heart of Gold
 
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:14:52 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:



As a kid, my buddies and I used to compete with each other seeing who
could shoot dragonflys out of the air with a sling-shot or BB gun.

Doing it with howitzers would not have made it a better competition.

Why run marathons when you can hail a cab or take a bus? How stupid is
THAT?



So, you're saying the reward is in the finesse? The ability to finesse
inferior technology and like it? Be satisfied with it? I just don't have
standards that are that low.

And, I agree with you on running marathons - pretty stupid. Any sane athlete
pedals a lightweight, aero, race bicycle. That's where the money is. That's
where true physical fitness and stamina is developed. That's where the
respect and glory is. That's where real men compete.

Wilbur Hubbard


So, you stink at archery, too?



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