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On 6 Sep, 01:10, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
So, which car are you going to buy? It won't give you any more street credibility than the Pearson 30 did. Take a test drive in a DB9, and you will realise that the cars that you have been looking at are just piles of crap. Well, it's been a long time since I said the following, but Donal's lame comments are deserving.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! The Aston Martin? Donal thinks it's got "soul" because James Bond drove one???? Do you know that a Evo X is a better driving machine? Do you know that it handles better and has a FAR more sophisticated suspension and drive train system? Do you know that Evo's are one of the definitive driving machines of the last decade in Europe and the US? Do you know what a "tuner's car" is and the Aston Martin is NOT a tuner's car? Let's teach Donal something about street credibility, which he seems to think has something to do with me driving alone on my winding roads: The DB9 simply says "I wanted the most expensive car", not the best driving machine. It can't compare in ANY way to the best handling cars of which the Evo X is universally agreed on as a member. As for the GT-R, good lord, Donal! Stop talking already. You can't cram any more feet in. A GT-R is a supercar well beyond anything a DB9 can muster. You probably don't even understand that a driving enthusiast doesn't want a Aston Martin over a Evo X or GT-R, two cars with superior handling and feedback. You really don't know the meaning of "class", do you? A GT-R is a big engine for men who fail to qualify in other areas. A DB-9 is for the man who already has everything. Are you stupid enough to believe that a GT-R looks as good as a DB-9? Do you feel hat the GT-R comes close to the DB-9's feeling of pure luxury? Let's face it, Bob. You have a cheap boat. You have a cheap telescope. You have a cheap camera. You would be at home with a cheap automobile. The Evo will feel as good as your 8" Celestron. Regards Donal -- |
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On Sep 5, 6:32 pm, wrote:
On 5 Sep, 02:12, "Capt. Rob" wrote: On Sep 4, 6:13 pm, wrote: On 4 Sep, 01:07, "Capt. Rob" wrote: My 4" refractor can outperform a 20 year old 10" reflector. Uh, Donal....a Cave Astrola reflector from the early 80's will easily top the highest end 4" refractor. It's simply going to collect too much light over the 4 and transmission coatings don't equal raw aperture. They've been making VERY good mirrors for even longer than 20 years. I thought you knew something about this, but it sounds more like you've read a lot of Vixen and Tak ads. Ahhhh..... You can't afford a Tak? I've been reading the posts about cars. I think that neither you nor Oz can afford an Aston Martin. Regards donal -- I could buy a Tak tomorrow, but it would be inferior to my CPC scope since it would be tougher to setup and would get less use. I'm planning on a GT-R, which is better than an Aston Martin. The GT-R is FASTER than the DB9. If you think that means that it is better then you are not really qualified to own an Aston. The GT-R is FASTER...oh an it also handles better in ALL conditions, has AWD, better driving position and comfort, more reliability. The Evo X also does better, but it's not faster in stock form, though it's pretty close. The poor DB9 can't even hang with a Vette. Now, before you look any dopier, consider the following: The new GT-R does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and pulls well over a full G on a skid pad. It's FAR better balanced than a DB9 and can be driven well in snow and rain. You just don't know what a handful a DB9 is on a twisty road compared to a GT-R or Evo X and you don't understand how fast the GT-R is. It's utterly in a class all it's own, which is why I'm on a waiting list to get one. Nice work, Donal...you utterly showed your ass again. R. |
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On 6 Sep, 01:27, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
You just don't know what a handful a DB9 is on a twisty road Oh, I do. Isn't that a bitch? Regards Donal -- |
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Well, that really takes the biscuit!!! Bobsprit accuses *me* of name dropping!!!! Yup, you absolutely named dropped. What Hi-Fi do you have? What home cinema system? What camera? What car? What telescope? I have some high end stuff and some bargain stuff. Why? Bob, your telescope is like your car. It is mass produced mediocre tat that is made for the recently affluent working class man. These things are desinged for *new* money. People who come from a decent background wouldn't be seen in possession of such rubbish. Wow! The director of AMNH science center owns a CPC-800 and suggested one to me. He must have a rubbish background. Who knew that a person's choice of astronomical instrument for their child was a class indicator? Donal knows, that's who! You *know* that if I wanted to name drop, then I would have highlighted my camera instead of the telescope. If you don't know that this is true, then you don't know anything about astrophotography. What are you babbling about? Scope, mount and CAMERA are all of interest and even more so if you're only using scope for piggyback shooting as I was. So, which car are you going to buy? It won't give you any more street credibility than the Pearson 30 did. Take a test drive in a DB9, and you will realise that the cars that you have been looking at are just piles of crap. Evo X GSR. If you'd like to learn something about enthusiast cars and why the Evo X is so spectacular (regardless of price, Donal), look at these clips: Ozzy...take a look, though you probably saw... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qreQwTeaVWY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ksZ...eature=related Meanwhile, I love the reviews of the beautiful DB9 that say it's nose heavy, has a tendency to plow into hard corners and so on. As Ozzy said, no thanks. Want real handling? Get a GT-R or Evo or even a simple Cayman S. Want more comfort? Try the sweet Audi R8....WAY nicer than the AM. R. |
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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:36:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 6 Sep, 01:27, "Capt. Rob" wrote: You just don't know what a handful a DB9 is on a twisty road Oh, I do. Isn't that a bitch? Regards Donal You enjoy driving a car that's a handful on a twisty road? OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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It might run rings around a DB9 in terms of speed. But, in terms of class??? No, it loses in CLASS too. You just don't get it. Enthusiast drivers want the BEST handling, not the best seat stitching. The DB9 gets casino respect, but as a drivers car it's not near the top of the class. Let's put it this way. Imagine that we both turn up at the casino in Monaco. Which car will get a parking space at the front of the Casino? You know the answer! Your Evo will be directed towards the rear of the building. The Aston will get a space beside the main entrance. Wow. You really need some attention. I'd hate for my car to be used in that way. I just want the most fun driving and top class handling, so I guess the Evo X was a great choice. Speed isn't everything. Some places still appreciate pure class. Only superficial clods think that way...DONAL. Most educated folks now know that labels and skins fall a distant second to actual performance. Cars like the Evo or STI didn't get to be top dogs by offering value, they did it by BEATING other cars, picking off automotive legends one-by-one. Beauty and soul are very personal tastes. If you liked driving and were any good at it then perhaps you'd know why the Evo is already being tested in stock trim against exotics. It usually doesn't win, nor is it expected to. But it does very well, and sometimes better in certain respects...and it has room for REAL back seats! Top Gear called the DB9 rear seats a joke! So again...no thanks. If you can ignore the beauty and soul, and accept a car that offers a better driving experience than the DB9 and can be used in rain and snow, then an Evo is suitable for you. Well said, Donal! R. |
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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:21:08 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote: It might run rings around a DB9 in terms of speed. But, in terms of class??? No, it loses in CLASS too. You just don't get it. Enthusiast drivers want the BEST handling, not the best seat stitching. The DB9 gets casino respect, but as a drivers car it's not near the top of the class. Let's put it this way. Imagine that we both turn up at the casino in Monaco. Which car will get a parking space at the front of the Casino? You know the answer! Your Evo will be directed towards the rear of the building. The Aston will get a space beside the main entrance. Wow. You really need some attention. I'd hate for my car to be used in that way. I just want the most fun driving and top class handling, so I guess the Evo X was a great choice. First time I ever saw 2 guys arguing about who is more pretentious. But I don't get to Monaco much. --Vic |
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You really don't know the meaning of "class", do you? A GT-R is a big engine for men who fail to qualify in other areas. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! The DB9 has the BIGGER engine. The GT-R clobbers the sad AM with a smaller motor and then manages to design a balanced car as well. It's pretty laughable that you consider any of these cars cheap. A loaded MR in the US is 44K and my GT-R loaded will cost me nearly 90K. None are inexpensive cars and if you had some class of your own you wouldn't be worried about having a car to create some for you! A DB-9 is for the man who already has everything. And has learned nothing. Are you stupid enough to believe that a GT-R looks as good as a DB-9? Do you feel hat the GT-R comes close to the DB-9's feeling of pure luxury? The GT-R is FAR better inside. Now I know you haven't sat in a GT-R. The seats are much better, designed for serious hard driving. The GT-R also has better footwell room by far and it has back seats that are actually usable. It's no contest. GT-R wins by a mile. Let's face it, Bob. You have a cheap boat. You have a cheap telescope. You have a cheap camera. You would be at home with a cheap automobile. Yeah, I guess my Beneteau is a cheap boat in the grand scheme of things. I own more than one scope. One is a Televue. Good camera gear is everywhere, but mine is better than yours. I bet you don't own a car that handles like my car or Ozzys. You sound VERY angry, frustrated and jealous now. The Evo will feel as good as your 8" Celestron. Lord, let's hope so. We've had a lot of fun with these GOTO scopes. For a small child it's far superior to traditional scopes. Sort of like why AWD is generally better than RWD much of the time. Cheers, R. |
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On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:21:08 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote: If you can ignore the beauty and soul, and accept a car that offers a better driving experience than the DB9 and can be used in rain and snow, then an Evo is suitable for you. Well said, Donal! R. My wife drives an MX5 (Miata to you Bubbles) It's a fantastic drive and one of the prettiest cars on the road. Nothing like the Evo but great fun...especially in our usually superb weather. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On Sep 5, 8:36 pm, wrote:
On 6 Sep, 01:27, "Capt. Rob" wrote: You just don't know what a handful a DB9 is on a twisty road Oh, I do. Isn't that a bitch? Indeed, and it's been noted by the reviews. AM tried to move the engine further back but still missed on achieving the right balance. The car also uses a dated and very simple suspension, which is why so many cars beat it in real world driving. One review was kind saying that the car was at least "honest" in it's handling as it never broke loose at the limits without warning. Still, it did break loose and the car got high points for comfort. The nose heavy issue makes for some numb handling compared to cars like an Evo or BMW M3. An M3 is yet another car that simply TOASTS the DB9. It's hard to stay focused on class when a car designer has failed on so many levels. A car is sooo much more than it's stitching and sheet metal. One day you may learn that...but I doubt it. What a laughable car the DB9 is, but cars of this type survive by generating a lot of false impressions and intangible comments like "class & soul." At it's price point the DB9 is a shame as a enthusiasts car. If you need to turn heads and drink gas, then by all means buy one. R. |
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On Sep 5, 9:06 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:11:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote: It might run rings around a DB9 in terms of speed. But, in terms of class??? It's just a car Donal...If you need a car to get class, You have none! OzOne of the three twins He needs it badly. Did you see how he wants HIS car in the front of the casino? That's a pretty sad comment. In the states we call enthusiast cars like the Evo "Q cars" which means they are sports cars that draw less attention and have a better chance of (literally) flying under the radar. They are cars for drivers, not sad sacks like Donal who need to be defined by parking spots! Good lord! R |
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BTW, Donal...I'm reconsidering the MR version. I still have about a
week to decide. I'm also shifting away from gray and back to red or silver. We may also pick up a new Outlander SUV as Suzanne wants something new for around-town shopping and taking Thomas to the parks & boat. The nav system in the Evo (and outlander) plays DVDs, but goes black if you exceed 5 MPH. A patch is available online to make it so you can watch DVD's while driving...not a great idea, but there if you want it. R. |
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On Sep 5, 9:50 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
BTW, Donal...I'm reconsidering the MR version. I still have about a week to decide. I'm also shifting away from gray and back to red or silver. We may also pick up a new Outlander SUV as Suzanne wants something new for around-town shopping and taking Thomas to the parks & boat. The nav system in the Evo (and outlander) plays DVDs, but goes black if you exceed 5 MPH. A patch is available online to make it so you can watch DVD's while driving...not a great idea, but there if you want it. R. Oop! This was meant for Ozzy! Sorry, Donal. I know you can't have a fun "anything." R. |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:08:23 +1000, OzOne wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:36:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote: You enjoy driving a car that's a handful on a twisty road? There are comments in the press about its handling. These comments only apply when driving at the limits, on the track. For normal driving it handles much, much better than an ordinary car. As long as you don't push the throttle more than half way down, it behaves like a pusseycat.... an incredibly sleek pusseycat, that roars like a lion every now and then! Regards Donal -- |
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On 3 Sep, 22:24, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Dave" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:42:42 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" said: What you are doing is using technology that is on par with two tin cans and a string for a telephone. You shoot BB guns and eschew the howitzers. And you're proud of it? And you're happy with it. I just don't get it. Perhaps there's something I'm missing. Perhaps somebody could answer the question: "Where's the beef?" You obviously miss the entire point of the exercise. It has nothing to do with the quality of the pictures. It's entirely a matter of being able to show and tell how expensive your toys are. Are some grown-up people really that immature? Wilbur Hubbard Never mind. Stupid question. Bobsprit just posted about his expensive scopes. No. He just posted about his mass produced cheap Celestron. He knows as much about telescopes as you know about boats. .... and you know as much about telescopes as he knows about boats. What a pair of thicko's! regards Donal -- |
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On Sep 6, 11:25 am, Donal wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:08:23 +1000, OzOne wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:36:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote: You enjoy driving a car that's a handful on a twisty road? There are comments in the press about its handling. These comments only apply when driving at the limits, on the track. For normal driving it handles much, much better than an ordinary car. As long as you don't push the throttle more than half way down, it behaves like a pusseycat.... an incredibly sleek pusseycat, that roars like a lion every now and then! Regards Donal -- Actually, if you look at the Top Gear review, the cars handling is pretty much unremarkable. It has gobs of power, though the car is utterly sloth like in spite of it's power. The car uses a simple wish bone setup that is simply not sophisticated enough for such a car, even a rear wheel one. It is a comfortable and quick highway cruiser, but it is nowhere near the performance levels of many other enthusiast cars. One might argue that it wasn't designed to be, but that would totally unhinge your point...which has thus far only made it clear that you don't drive a sports car. The Evo X handles better and is designed for tuners. The AM is a rich girl's toy. Cheers, R. |
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On 6 Sep, 00:39, OzOne wrote:
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:45:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On 5 Sep, 01:10, OzOne wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:13:26 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I've been reading the posts about cars. I think that neither you nor Oz can afford an Aston Martin. Regards donal Aston Martins are horrendously expensive in Oz..... Of course. But, they are worth every penny. Quality doesn't come cheap. Power, Beauty, Soul ...... You left off Reliability.....Understandably I don't regard $300,000 + tax and on roads as being value for money Other cars are just plain ugly by comparison. Oh they are beautiful.... If you drive a Lambo, Bently or a Porsche you will be treated like a football player. Oh wonderful.....? If you drive an Evo, then you will probably be treated like a football player's wife. Actually you'll hardly be noticed.... You get treated with respect when you drive an Aston. You would like it. Nope sorry....no deal. Could I persuade you to just run your hand arcross the rear end of a DB9? You have a beautiful wife. Why don't you compare her rear to the rear of a DB9? Then, you should ask her for her opinion..... You will be surprised at her answer. She won't be insulted that I compared her rear with a DB9. She will give you permission to buy one. You have extremely good taste in women, and your wife expects you to have good taste in cars. Regards Donal -- |
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Could I persuade you to just run your hand arcross the rear end of a DB9? I have...and driven a DBS drophead....very nice, but too expensive You have a beautiful wife. Why don't you compare her rear to the rear of a DB9? My wifes rear is as tight as the DB9's Then, you should ask her for her opinion..... You will be surprised at her answer. She won't be insulted that I compared her rear with a DB9. She will give you permission to buy one. She loves her MX5....and oddly never liked my Dino which BTW now resides in the UK You have extremely good taste in women, and your wife expects you to have good taste in cars. I was lucky....and she likes our cars and can't wait till this one is back together and she can sit that firm butt in it http://www.lanciarally037.com/intro.htm OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:25:54 +0100, Donal
wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:08:23 +1000, OzOne wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:36:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote: You enjoy driving a car that's a handful on a twisty road? There are comments in the press about its handling. These comments only apply when driving at the limits, on the track. For normal driving it handles much, much better than an ordinary car. As long as you don't push the throttle more than half way down, it behaves like a pusseycat.... an incredibly sleek pusseycat, that roars like a lion every now and then! Regards Donal -- Donal when I bought my Evo, I did a quick run in then went for a quiet cruise though a couple of forest roads that had been closed after half a metre of fresh show. Nothing other than a tank could have gone through that 100km of road and certainly not at an average speed in excess of 90km/hr. If I cruise I drive a supercharged AWD luxury sedan...when I drive, I prefer the Evo. Thanks, but no thanks. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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He just posted about his mass produced cheap Celestron.
It's interesting that Donal keeps calling the CPC series, used by many universities and organizations for teaching, "cheap." They are actually pretty expensive. My CPC 8" scope cost nearly 3K and my 11 is quite a bit more. My Telvue is more expensive per inch, but the Celestron gear is far better in actual versatility. The scope that gets the most use is the best scope, even if it's a 300 dollar dob. Poor Donal thinks beauty is in the scope, rather than the sky.....too bad. Maybe he'd like to buy my Questar before I try to sell it on Astromart. R. |
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On Sep 6, 8:22 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:25:54 +0100, Donal wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:08:23 +1000, OzOne wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:36:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote: You enjoy driving a car that's a handful on a twisty road? There are comments in the press about its handling. These comments only apply when driving at the limits, on the track. For normal driving it handles much, much better than an ordinary car. As long as you don't push the throttle more than half way down, it behaves like a pusseycat.... an incredibly sleek pusseycat, that roars like a lion every now and then! Regards Donal -- Donal when I bought my Evo, I did a quick run in then went for a quiet cruise though a couple of forest roads that had been closed after half a metre of fresh show. Nothing other than a tank could have gone through that 100km of road and certainly not at an average speed in excess of 90km/hr. If I cruise I drive a supercharged AWD luxury sedan...when I drive, I prefer the Evo. Thanks, but no thanks. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** Yup, and I live in an area that requires AWD big time. It's a key reason why I chose the Evo over a Cayman S or Exige. I like a car to be a full time toy and an Aston Martin just can't make the grade on these twisty roads in the snow....or even in the dry compared to an Evo X. R. |
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On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:58:22 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote: Yup, and I live in an area that requires AWD big time. It's a key reason why I chose the Evo over a Cayman S or Exige. I like a car to be a full time toy and an Aston Martin just can't make the grade on these twisty roads in the snow....or even in the dry compared to an Evo X. Yep. BTW I had a small problem on that drive, the AYC went into limp mode and I really noticed the difference before I noticed the warning light. I'd managed to shake a connection loose in the computer. Mitsu sent a guy up from 400kms away to replace the part at my hotel but they only had a part from a demo car. They contacted me later and replaced the part with a new one then a letter arrived saying they had analysed to computer and found that it was a faulty connection...they'd never had the problem with any other car..lucky me! OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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On Sep 6, 9:19 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 17:58:22 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob" wrote: Yup, and I live in an area that requires AWD big time. It's a key reason why I chose the Evo over a Cayman S or Exige. I like a car to be a full time toy and an Aston Martin just can't make the grade on these twisty roads in the snow....or even in the dry compared to an Evo X. Yep. BTW I had a small problem on that drive, the AYC went into limp mode and I really noticed the difference before I noticed the warning light. I'd managed to shake a connection loose in the computer. Mitsu sent a guy up from 400kms away to replace the part at my hotel but they only had a part from a demo car. They contacted me later and replaced the part with a new one then a letter arrived saying they had analysed to computer and found that it was a faulty connection...they'd never had the problem with any other car..lucky me! OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** So far the X looks pretty solid. I'm reading the forums every day and very few owners are having problems. That's even more impressive since many have tuned the engine up to 370 WHP or higher. R. |
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You might as well drive an sst hatchback as an EVO X. Two of the ugliest,
most over-rated cars of all-time. At least the DB9 is beautiful. "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... On Sep 5, 8:36 pm, wrote: On 6 Sep, 01:27, "Capt. Rob" wrote: You just don't know what a handful a DB9 is on a twisty road Oh, I do. Isn't that a bitch? Indeed, and it's been noted by the reviews. AM tried to move the engine further back but still missed on achieving the right balance. The car also uses a dated and very simple suspension, which is why so many cars beat it in real world driving. One review was kind saying that the car was at least "honest" in it's handling as it never broke loose at the limits without warning. Still, it did break loose and the car got high points for comfort. The nose heavy issue makes for some numb handling compared to cars like an Evo or BMW M3. An M3 is yet another car that simply TOASTS the DB9. It's hard to stay focused on class when a car designer has failed on so many levels. A car is sooo much more than it's stitching and sheet metal. One day you may learn that...but I doubt it. What a laughable car the DB9 is, but cars of this type survive by generating a lot of false impressions and intangible comments like "class & soul." At it's price point the DB9 is a shame as a enthusiasts car. If you need to turn heads and drink gas, then by all means buy one. R. |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... On Sep 6, 8:22 pm, OzOne wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:25:54 +0100, Donal wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:08:23 +1000, OzOne wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:36:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote: You enjoy driving a car that's a handful on a twisty road? There are comments in the press about its handling. These comments only apply when driving at the limits, on the track. For normal driving it handles much, much better than an ordinary car. As long as you don't push the throttle more than half way down, it behaves like a pusseycat.... an incredibly sleek pusseycat, that roars like a lion every now and then! Regards Donal -- Donal when I bought my Evo, I did a quick run in then went for a quiet cruise though a couple of forest roads that had been closed after half a metre of fresh show. Nothing other than a tank could have gone through that 100km of road and certainly not at an average speed in excess of 90km/hr. If I cruise I drive a supercharged AWD luxury sedan...when I drive, I prefer the Evo. Thanks, but no thanks. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** Yup, and I live in an area that requires AWD big time. It's a key reason why I chose the Evo over a Cayman S or Exige. I like a car to be a full time toy and an Aston Martin just can't make the grade on these twisty roads in the snow....or even in the dry compared to an Evo X. You are so full of CRAP. You need to get off the Information Super Highway and try a real road trip. |
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On 7 Sep, 14:00, "jlrogers±³©" wrote:
You might as well drive an sst hatchback as an EVO X. Two of the ugliest, most over-rated cars of all-time. At least the DB9 is beautiful. What Car says of the EVO:- "Refinement Refinement rating - 2 out of 5 As you'd expect, it's noisy" I wonder if they are talking about the car, or the owner?? Regards Donal -- |
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jlrogers blathered.....
You might as well drive an sst hatchback as an EVO X. Two of the ugliest, most over-rated cars of all-time. At least the DB9 is beautiful. Yep...it's overrated alright...by just about every driver, magazine and driving show around. That must also make the M3 overrated too! Yep, the AM is very pretty. Just what I need: a really pretty car than can't stay in step with cars costing far less. What a bargain! Go drive an Elise, Exige, 911 Turbo or M3, the dry an S4 with a few mods and then finally run an Evo X hard. Then let Ozzy in on all your secret car knowledge. R. |
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On Sep 7, 12:05 pm, wrote:
On 7 Sep, 14:00, "jlrogers±³©" wrote: You might as well drive an sst hatchback as an EVO X. Two of the ugliest, most over-rated cars of all-time. At least the DB9 is beautiful. What Car says of the EVO:- "Refinement Refinement rating - 2 out of 5 As you'd expect, it's noisy" Oh no! Not a noisy sports car!!!!! Who'd want that? Don't tell me the GSR actually removed road insulation to improve the car for hard core driving?!!!! Nahhhhh! Want a bit quite ride then get the MR. You clearly don't know what the Evo or any rally car is for. Donal, you just go on and on proving that you're into bloated blvd. cruisers and that's fine with me! It must be really killing you that I will own such a car purely as a toy. Noisy? BWAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHA! R. |
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... On Sep 6, 8:22 pm, OzOne wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:25:54 +0100, Donal wrote: On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:08:23 +1000, OzOne wrote: On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:36:00 -0700 (PDT), wrote: You enjoy driving a car that's a handful on a twisty road? There are comments in the press about its handling. These comments only apply when driving at the limits, on the track. For normal driving it handles much, much better than an ordinary car. As long as you don't push the throttle more than half way down, it behaves like a pusseycat.... an incredibly sleek pusseycat, that roars like a lion every now and then! Regards Donal -- Donal when I bought my Evo, I did a quick run in then went for a quiet cruise though a couple of forest roads that had been closed after half a metre of fresh show. Nothing other than a tank could have gone through that 100km of road and certainly not at an average speed in excess of 90km/hr. If I cruise I drive a supercharged AWD luxury sedan...when I drive, I prefer the Evo. Thanks, but no thanks. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** Yup, and I live in an area that requires AWD big time. It's a key reason why I chose the Evo over a Cayman S or Exige. I like a car to be a full time toy and an Aston Martin just can't make the grade on these twisty roads in the snow....or even in the dry compared to an Evo X. You are so full of CRAP. You need to get off the Information Super Highway and try a real road trip. Now that's funny! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On 7 Sep, 17:50, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Donal, you just go on and on proving that you're into bloated blvd. cruisers and that's fine with me! It must be really killing you that I will own such a car purely as a toy. Noisy? BWAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHA! R. I've just seen the price of the Evo, and I feel that I owe you an apology. I didn't realise that it was such a cheap car. It was really very unfair of me to compare it to a DB9. I'm very sorry, and I hope that you can find it in your heart to accept my apology. Regards Donal -- Regards Donal -- |
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... BS' stuff removed I've just seen the price of the Evo, and I feel that I owe you an apology. I didn't realise that it was such a cheap car. It was really very unfair of me to compare it to a DB9. I'm very sorry, and I hope that you can find it in your heart to accept my apology. Regards Donal -- Hey Donal, I don't understand how you can compare the two cars. The Aston Martin is actually beautiful. The Evo seems boxy and cheap looking. Don't know about the spec diffs, but esthetically, I'd rather have the AM. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On 7 Sep, 20:20, "Capt. JG" wrote:
wrote in message ... BS' stuff removed I've just seen the price of the Evo, and I feel that I owe you an apology. I didn't realise that it was such a cheap car. It was really very unfair of me to compare it to a DB9. I'm very sorry, and I hope that you can find it in your heart to accept my apology. Regards Donal -- Hey Donal, I don't understand how you can compare the two cars. The Aston Martin is actually beautiful. The Evo seems boxy and cheap looking. Don't know about the spec diffs, but esthetically, I'd rather have the AM. -- "j" ganz As I said earlier in the thread, a car is about "Power, Beauty and Soul". Each ingrediant adds to the cost. Bob can easily measure the power, but he seems incapable of assessing the Beauty or Soul. I've placed my hand upon the rear of a DB9, and Bob has read about the Evo's performance in a cheap car mag. The Aston is designed for someone who appreciates true quality. The Evo is designed for someone who wants to own a supercar, but cannot afford one. The Evo makes a real statement about its owner. Regards Donal -- |
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As I said earlier in the thread, a car is about "Power, Beauty and Soul". Each ingrediant adds to the cost. Unfortunately the AM has no AWD, so it's useless in any area that gets snow. Bob can easily measure the power, but he seems incapable of assessing the Beauty or Soul. Pretty car, but the "soul" is in your head. Try driving a Lotus Exige if you want soul. I've placed my hand upon the rear of a DB9, and Bob has read about the Evo's performance in a cheap car mag. Sorry, Donal, in the past month I've driven the Porsche 911 Turbo, Cayman S, Lotus Exige & Elise, Evo X GSR and MR and the mighty GT-R. Oh, but you've touched a bumper at a Costco? You know nothing at all about cars. The Aston is designed for someone who appreciates true quality. The Evo is designed for someone who wants to own a supercar, but cannot afford one. Hmmmm, even taken at it's worst, Donal is actually throwing the Evo a huge compliment. That's what many experts agree on; that the Evo X actually beats many supercars and only costs 40K. The Evo makes a real statement about its owner. Only if the owner is a fellow like Donal who thinks a car can define a human being! Good lord! Hey, Donal, what does it say about me that I'm buying the best handling and fastest production car in the world in 14-18 months? And why do you care? Probably because my cars are nicer than Donals. R. |
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On Sep 7, 3:09 pm, wrote:
On 7 Sep, 17:50, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Donal, you just go on and on proving that you're into bloated blvd. cruisers and that's fine with me! It must be really killing you that I will own such a car purely as a toy. Noisy? BWAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHA! R. I've just seen the price of the Evo, and I feel that I owe you an apology. I didn't realise that it was such a cheap car. It was really very unfair of me to compare it to a DB9. I'm very sorry, and I hope that you can find it in your heart to accept my apology. Appology accepted. You have no idea how foolish you look. You compared a road car to a tuners car. One is designed to roll out of showroom as a high end cruiser. The other is designed to be modified and possibly raced. The Evo X can drive in snow and ice, the AM can't. The Evo is already a popular race car, the AM will never be. But these are NOT part of the design of the AM at all. You have a LOT to learn about cars, but you should 1st try learning a bit about telescopes. Go slow. It's not too late for you to learn, Donal. R. |
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... On 7 Sep, 20:20, "Capt. JG" wrote: wrote in message ... BS' stuff removed I've just seen the price of the Evo, and I feel that I owe you an apology. I didn't realise that it was such a cheap car. It was really very unfair of me to compare it to a DB9. I'm very sorry, and I hope that you can find it in your heart to accept my apology. Regards Donal -- Hey Donal, I don't understand how you can compare the two cars. The Aston Martin is actually beautiful. The Evo seems boxy and cheap looking. Don't know about the spec diffs, but esthetically, I'd rather have the AM. -- "j" ganz As I said earlier in the thread, a car is about "Power, Beauty and Soul". Each ingrediant adds to the cost. Bob can easily measure the power, but he seems incapable of assessing the Beauty or Soul. I've placed my hand upon the rear of a DB9, and Bob has read about the Evo's performance in a cheap car mag. The Aston is designed for someone who appreciates true quality. The Evo is designed for someone who wants to own a supercar, but cannot afford one. The Evo makes a real statement about its owner. Regards Donal -- I guess I should buy an Accord. I can't afford either! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
... Wave bye, bye. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wtOBUKm4M0 And, it looks great doing it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sep 7, 7:41 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... Wave bye, bye. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wtOBUKm4M0 And, it looks great doing it. In a straight line, yep. And on a twisty road the Evo will out-handle the AM. And in rain or snow the Evo still performs. If you want handling and brute speed, don't bother with a slow AM. Get the new Nissan GT-R, which is among the best supercars built today. I tried to get one and am on a waiting list. I wonder what sad car poor Donal drives. R. |
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Here. Donal....here is part of Jeremy Clarkson's review on the new X
in Euro trim. Mine will actually be a bit faster since I'm getting the Ecutech upgrade. Read this if you have any interest in cars with more than "heart and soul" but also actual spirit to perform. "The heart and soul in question was its ability to remain composed and absolutely controllable in a lairy, tyre-smoking four-wheel drift. No other car I’d driven was able to do this, even slightly. It was exquisite. The new car is even better because when you turn into a corner it’s the back that steps out of line. This means that even the portal through which you must pass to get at the meat and veg is full of hair- tingling joy. Of course there are lots of buttons you can press to make the handling different but those are for geeks and bores. All I can report is that the basics of this car – the core – are monumentally, toweringly, eye- wateringly brilliant. Then there’s the speed. Yes, a Ferrari 430 is full of brio and passion but get an Evo X on your tail and I guarantee that, unless it’s being driven by a complete spanner, you will not be able to shake it off. And now comes the really good news. When you have finished at the track, the ride home is not bad either. Certainly it is way softer than the Evos of old, much more comfortable. Also, the X doesn’t require a service every 300 yards. And it’s garnished with higher- quality plastics as well. Oh, and I nearly forgot. It has the single best touchscreen central command sat nav system I’ve found in any car. It’ll even give you the average speed, in a graph, of each of your past 20 journeys. And of course it’s got four doors, seating for five and a boot, which despite the fitting of a Grateful Dead bass speaker was still large enough last night to accommodate my daughter’s back-to- school requirements. " Now this might sound like some fanboy if it didn't echo every other review and my own driving experience with the car. Oh, and Ozzy's too. Please let up know when you get the AM. R. |
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