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On 16 Sep, 19:10, Martin Baxter wrote:
Donal wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Oh I don't know. He has stopped using the phrase "Well regarded", which normally appears in every post. Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Pure Beauty and Soul. What a georgeous car. I was a passenger in one a few times some years ago. Some people brag about "new car smell", being in this was more like being in a clean tack room. Hand finished burled walnut....leather.... just beautiful inside and out. I think top speed was about 95, but that was a bonus, you just wanted the ride to last forever... I am jealous. Were you in the hardtop or the opentop version? Both look nice, but the opentop looks utterly magnificant! I bet that Bob just thinks that they look old-fashioned. Would I prefer to be a passenger in a Bently Mark VI or the driver of an Evo? I know which I would choose. Bob? regards Donal -- |
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On 16 Sep 2008 20:40:02 -0500, Dave wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:19:20 -0400, said: I thought he was still talking about the DB9. I failed to negotiate the curve. LOL I figured. Just had to pull your chain a little. The brochure for the 1952 Bentley did not state horsepower, or anyting else so crass and common. It merely described the engine output as "adequate". Very dry, those Brits! Yes. IIRC the Bentley packed a huge in-line 6, didn't it? I almost bought a 1954 Bentley around 1970. It was a beaut. Two tone coffee and cream. Had been owned by some Bentley Mucky-Muck in Canada. It was sitting in a car dealership in Darien. The mechanicals and exterior were in extremely good shape, but the interior was a bit rough. The asking was less than $6k. That engine was pretty spectacular. It idled silently and smoothly at about 500 rpm. Probably would have cost another 5k 1970 dollars to restore the interior properly. I passed. Wonder what it would be worth now? Probably quite a bit. You used to be able to find those kinds of cars pretty cheap back then. I knew someone in Davenport, CA that bought a nice aluminum Rolls Royce for $500. Had some body damage, and the cost to fix would have been astronomical. It ran okay. Had a G.M. auto trans. He just banged out the bent part to roughly the right shape and drove it around town the way it was. The crushed velvet lining in the trunk was a nice touch, as was the flip down velvet lined toolkit in the trunk lid. The tools in it were all nice quality, highly polished, stuff. Not the cheap stuff you usually find in a car tool kit. |
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On Sep 16, 5:56 pm, wrote:
On 16 Sep, 19:10, Martin Baxter wrote: Donal wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Oh I don't know. He has stopped using the phrase "Well regarded", which normally appears in every post. Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Pure Beauty and Soul. What a georgeous car. I was a passenger in one a few times some years ago. Some people brag about "new car smell", being in this was more like being in a clean tack room. Hand finished burled walnut....leather.... just beautiful inside and out. I think top speed was about 95, but that was a bonus, you just wanted the ride to last forever... I am jealous. Were you in the hardtop or the opentop version? Both look nice, but the opentop looks utterly magnificant! I bet that Bob just thinks that they look old-fashioned. Since I have owned MG-TD series cars I actually have some experience in this area and with real classics. Of course they look "old fashioned." That's the point. Would I prefer to be a passenger in a Bently Mark VI or the driver of an Evo? I know which I would choose. Bob? Choose for what? Cruising or hard driving? Hmmmm? RB |
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Please show me any test showing the DB9 pulling 1.04 G on a skidpad. Wonderful, at what 35, 40mph? What's it do at 140? Cheers Marty |
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Dave wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:19:20 -0400, said: I thought he was still talking about the DB9. I failed to negotiate the curve. LOL I figured. Just had to pull your chain a little. The brochure for the 1952 Bentley did not state horsepower, or anyting else so crass and common. It merely described the engine output as "adequate". Very dry, those Brits! Yes. IIRC the Bentley packed a huge in-line 6, didn't it? Dave, it was an inline 6, but not all that big, 4.6l, about 280cu inches. Zero to sixty in something like 15 seconds, a real rubber burner! IIRC the coachwork was done by Rolls. Cheers Marty |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Get what? You seem to be concentrating on performance alone, Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's Real race history? Who won the 2007 Le Mans, GT1 class? I remind you, Le Mans is truly a road circuit, and race that separates the lesser from the greater. I thought you would have done a little research. Cheers Marty |
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On Sep 17, 12:59 am, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote: Get what? You seem to be concentrating on performance alone, Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's Real race history? Who won the 2007 Le Mans, GT1 class? I remind you, Le Mans is truly a road circuit, and race that separates the lesser from the greater. I thought you would have done a little research. Cheers Marty BWAHAHAHAHA! Okay Marty, YOU need to do some research! Who campaigned the DB9? Show us the DB9's race history vs. the Evo. Evo's are pro raced daily and you might notice that an Evo just took a coveted prize in one of the top rally races in the world. The DB9 is a luxury cruising machine, Marty. It's not a hardcore sports car. It's funny because the longer you and Donal fail to understand that, the dopier you all sound. Bottom line: Never buy anything Ford is involved with! The DB9 at 165K doesn't have a single performance spec that is ahead of the pack. NOT ONE. The Nissan GT-R I have a deposit on outdoes it in every single respect that is key to high performance driving and at half the price. The GT-R is also built better. The DB9 is a pretty, but expensive joke on those who are more interested in how they appear to others. It's a unique mix of high quality with little substance. The fact that an Evo X bests in so many ways important to driving is humiliating enough. Add a GT-R into the mix at just 75K and the DB9 seems like a Mini Cooper by comparison. RB |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 17, 12:59 am, Marty wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Get what? You seem to be concentrating on performance alone, Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's Real race history? Who won the 2007 Le Mans, GT1 class? I remind you, Le Mans is truly a road circuit, and race that separates the lesser from the greater. I thought you would have done a little research. Cheers Marty BWAHAHAHAHA! Okay Marty, YOU need to do some research! Who campaigned the DB9? Show us the DB9's race history vs. the Evo. Evo's are pro raced daily and you might notice that an Evo just took a coveted prize in one of the top rally races in the world. I do? If you bothered to look it up you'd be aware that there were more than one team running DBR9, the AM factory took 1st and 4th in their class, Larbre took 3rd and 11th in their DBR9s, BMS 6th, Modena 10th. In all six AMs in the race, how many EVOs? Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do all that well. Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win? Cheers Marty |
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:40:15 +0100, Donal
wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:15:34 +1000, OzOne wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: Donal, you're wasting your breath, Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Cheers Marty Of course he understands the "mystique"..as Donal says it's about going fast in a straight line, having people think you are 'someone' because you drive an 'Aston' and getting good parking spots at the casino. Tsk, tsk, tsk Ozzy! Now you are trying to misquote me. It is about an awful lot more than that short list. Those were just some of the things that I thought might impress Bob. For you, I would emphasise the pleasure that you can get from simply looking at a DB9. Don't let me down by saying that you cannot appreciate that. Regards Donal -- I'd be very happy looking at someone elses Aston....while I passed it and literally ****ed off into the distance in my far less expensive car on the way to my lodge in the mountains. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:26:55 +0100, Donal
wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Oh I don't know. He has stopped using the phrase "Well regarded", which normally appears in every post. More than well regarded. Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Pure Beauty and Soul. What a georgeous car. Mmmmmmm, I'll go for spirit and fire any day! Regards Donal -- OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On 17 Sep, 04:26, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Sep 16, 5:56 pm, wrote: On 16 Sep, 19:10, Martin Baxter wrote: Donal wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Oh I don't know. He has stopped using the phrase "Well regarded", which normally appears in every post. Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Pure Beauty and Soul. What a georgeous car. I was a passenger in one a few times some years ago. Some people brag about "new car smell", being in this was more like being in a clean tack room. Hand finished burled walnut....leather.... just beautiful inside and out. I think top speed was about 95, but that was a bonus, you just wanted the ride to last forever... I am jealous. Were you in the hardtop or the opentop version? Both look nice, but the opentop looks utterly magnificant! I bet that Bob just thinks that they look old-fashioned. Since I have owned MG-TD series cars I actually have some experience in this area and with real classics. Of course they look "old fashioned." That's the point. Would I prefer to be a passenger in a Bently Mark VI or the driver of an Evo? I know which I would choose. Bob? Choose for what? Cruising or hard driving? Hmmmm? You really don't get it, do you? The choice is between a Bently Mark VI and and Evo. You reveal your character by choosing the Evo. Cruising.... Hard driving... looking at... standing beside sitting in... smelling... feeling.... touching, ..... even just touching the door handle ... of a Bently Mark VI...... You can take a man out of the bog, but you cannot take the bog out of the man. Regards Donal -- |
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On 17 Sep, 13:42, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:40:15 +0100, Donal wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:15:34 +1000, OzOne wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: Donal, you're wasting your breath, Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Cheers Marty Of course he understands the "mystique"..as Donal says it's about going fast in a straight line, having people think you are 'someone' because you drive an 'Aston' and getting good parking spots at the casino. Tsk, tsk, tsk Ozzy! Now you are trying to misquote me. It is about an awful lot more than that short list. Those were just some of the things that I thought might impress Bob. I'd be very happy looking at someone elses Aston....while I passed it and literally ****ed off into the distance in my far less expensive car on the way to my lodge in the mountains. But you wouldn't pass it in an Evo! ......And your "lodge in the mountains" has only one en-suite bedroom. Doesn't it? regards Donal -- |
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On Sep 17, 7:06 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:24:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Tsk, tsk, tsk Ozzy! Now you are trying to misquote me. It is about an awful lot more than that short list. Those were just some of the things that I thought might impress Bob. I'd be very happy looking at someone elses Aston....while I passed it and literally ****ed off into the distance in my far less expensive car on the way to my lodge in the mountains. But you wouldn't pass it in an Evo! Oh yes I would, probably on the inside at twice the speed the Aston was capable of ever negotiating even a mild corner. And Captain Kirk help the poor driver of the Aston if the road is not bone dry! Ivana Trump owns a DB9. Nuff said. RB |
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You reveal your character by choosing the Evo. Someone who loves driving most of all. The same type of person who prefers a Miata to a Z4 or a Lotus Elise over a BMW 335i. Or a 135i over a Infiniti G35s. Donal, you need many more lessons before you'll understand what a specialty car is and the kind of person who buys one. It's about handling refinement, feedback and balance. It's not about raw power. That's why the poor DB9 trails most serious sports cars in every respect important to driving. And that's why a Evo X bests the Aston in many respects on handling finesse and why the GT-R bests in EVERY respect. The Aston is a AMC Gremlin compared to the DB9. And before you say anything more to wet your own bed, consider that the GT-R is capable of 0-60 in 3.3 seconds and can handle a skidpad WELL over a full G. It handles even better than the Evo X. No car made today can touch it. And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. RB |
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Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do all that well. Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win? Uh, Earth to Marty...come in Marty! Do you read? The Evo X is new. It has nothing to do with earlier cars. New engine, suspension, tranny and sheet metal. Here's a clip: Last weekend Japanese Mitsubishi driver Fumio Nutahara gave the new Lancer Evolution X its first win,dominating the Kuma Kogen Rally,one of the rounds of the Japanese Rally Championship. This victory is significant as the Lancer is still not yet fully developed and it was competing against Mitsus arch rivals,the Subaru STis. RB |
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You reveal your character by choosing the Evo.
Yep..... Someone who loves driving most of all. The same type of person who prefers a Miata to a Z4 or a Lotus Elise over a BMW 335i. Or a 135i over a Infiniti G35s. Donal, you need many more lessons before you'll understand what a specialty car is and the kind of person who buys one. It's about handling refinement, feedback and balance. It's not about raw power. That's why the poor DB9 trails most serious sports cars in every respect important to driving. And that's why a Evo X bests the Aston in many respects on handling finesse and why the GT-R bests in EVERY respect. The Aston is a AMC Gremlin compared to the GT-R. And before you say anything more to wet your own bed, consider that the GT-R is capable of 0-60 in 3.3 seconds and can handle a skidpad WELL over a full G. It handles even better than the Evo X. No car made today can touch it. And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. RB |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. Now that's funny! Bob you slay me. How you get people to take this crap seriously enough to argue with you is a real art. You are the master. |
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On Sep 18, 7:03 am, jlrogers±³© wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. Now that's funny! Bob you slay me. How you get people to take this crap seriously enough to argue with you is a real art. You are the master. Even though I've been in both cars and you haven't you might want to consider the facts. The DB9 is a partially hand built car and so is the GT-R. The DB9 is a expensive car from a company that has nearly gone under several times and has been unable to survive on it's own. Their products do not represent the best of the market in any respect and NEVER have. If you find the DB9 to be the most beautiful car and that's what matters most to you then buy one. Now consider the Nissan GT-R. Only 1500 were built for USA and it represents virtually every technology available to maximize high performance driving. It is built to a MUCH higher spec than any Lexus or Infiniti for example. Unlike the DB9 the GT-R rides no rails between luxury and speed. It has one goal. It's sophistication is so far beyond the DB9 that it completely antiquates it. Even the GT-R seats are the very best and the interior is being called the best ever, not just for a supercar, but for ANY car. Manufacturing tolerances for the GT-R were further refined beyond all previous standards. The cockpit of the GT-R has instrumentation that even displays G force and specific acceleration charts. It's not just a bit better handling or somewhat faster than a DB9. It's HUGELY faster and better handling. 0-60 at 3.3 seconds and the car has yet to be flash tuned! Amazingly, on a tight road coarse, the Evo is nearly as fast. Only the GT-R's massive HP advantage lets it pull away in the short straights. In the end a simple fact remains. None of you own a DB9, Evo X or GT- R. Ozzy and I are buying Evo's and I have a deposit on a GT-R with my dealer in New Rochelle. The rest of you are googling up fast cars and taking laughable driving lessons. You saw a DB9 being driven by James Bond and you wet yourselves. Then you drove home in your Pontiacs or Jeep or old-man-sedan. So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. RB |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. '90 Nissan Pathfinder, 300k on it, best damned snow truck I've ever had. When you get your GT-R, bring it up here in January, we'll race around the block. Betcha my Nissan beats yours, (well in three feet of snow). I'll even give you a handicap, I'll tow a trailer with a couple of cords of hickory in it! Cheers Marty |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do all that well. Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win? Uh, Earth to Marty...come in Marty! Do you read? The Evo X is new. It has nothing to do with earlier cars. New engine, suspension, tranny and sheet metal. Getting a bit strident there Bob. Yes I do read, you posted "It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9", and now you say it's "new", sort of contradictory. You could buy a travel guide for Tahiti and learn a good deal. You could buy a Gauguin and learn something different. Cheers Marty |
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On Sep 18, 8:01 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote: So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. '90 Nissan Pathfinder, 300k on it, best damned snow truck I've ever had. When you get your GT-R, bring it up here in January, we'll race around the block. Betcha my Nissan beats yours, (well in three feet of snow). I'll even give you a handicap, I'll tow a trailer with a couple of cords of hickory in it! BWAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Nissan Pathfinder and in the year range for the bad rear end. Best snow truck??? Even more laughable. On snow that's not over the road height either my Legacy Turbo or Evo or the GT-R are FAR better and safer in the snow. It's not even close. Now that I see what you drive I know you're nothing but a mag driver. Enjoy your next issue of Car & Driver, but try to remember that some of us actually DRIVE and OWN fast cars. RB |
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Oh, c'mon, BOb. You proved long ago and quite conclusively, that's it's never too late to embarass yourself. I see Donal is up against the wall since he's been bragging about a car he doesn't own and will never own. Maybe he'll get some courage and lie about what he drives or maybe he'll get REAL courage and go buy a used WRX and learn how to drive. Seems like he deserves the same comment.... Enjoy your next issue of Car & Driver, but try to remember that some of us actually DRIVE and OWN fast cars. RB (Currently driving modded Legacy Turbo with 330 HP and HKS suspension) and buying a 2009 Evo X with a Nissan GT-R deposit down. |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:14:11 -0400, Martin Baxter
wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do all that well. Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win? Uh, Earth to Marty...come in Marty! Do you read? The Evo X is new. It has nothing to do with earlier cars. New engine, suspension, tranny and sheet metal. Getting a bit strident there Bob. Yes I do read, you posted "It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9", and now you say it's "new", sort of contradictory. You could buy a travel guide for Tahiti and learn a good deal. You could buy a Gauguin and learn something different. Cheers Marty Huh? It's new and has a history of previous models having great success. What is the contradiction.....Oh I see, you've withdrawn. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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OzOne wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:14:11 -0400, Martin Baxter wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do all that well. Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win? Uh, Earth to Marty...come in Marty! Do you read? The Evo X is new. It has nothing to do with earlier cars. New engine, suspension, tranny and sheet metal. Getting a bit strident there Bob. Yes I do read, you posted "It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9", and now you say it's "new", sort of contradictory. You could buy a travel guide for Tahiti and learn a good deal. You could buy a Gauguin and learn something different. Cheers Marty Huh? It's new and has a history of previous models having great success. What is the contradiction.....Oh I see, you've withdrawn. Very good Oz, now try "It has *nothing* to do with earlier cars..." apposed with your "history of previous models". Clear 'nuff? Cheers Marty |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 18, 8:01 am, Martin Baxter wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. '90 Nissan Pathfinder, 300k on it, best damned snow truck I've ever had. When you get your GT-R, bring it up here in January, we'll race around the block. Betcha my Nissan beats yours, (well in three feet of snow). I'll even give you a handicap, I'll tow a trailer with a couple of cords of hickory in it! BWAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Nissan Pathfinder and in the year range for the bad rear end. Best snow truck??? Even more laughable. On snow that's not over the road height either my Legacy Turbo or Evo or the GT-R are FAR better and safer in the snow. It's not even close. Now that I see what you drive I know you're nothing but a mag driver. Enjoy your next issue of Car & Driver, but try to remember that some of us actually DRIVE and OWN fast cars. Well see, I knew you had a BWAHAAA in you! Bad rear ends eh? I guess I've been lucky. What is the road height for you EVO? Maybe 6 inches? You couldn't get to my place in the summer with that, never mind through 3 feet of snow. Different vehicles for different needs. Do you have a CRX with low profile tires and one of those silly "throaty sounding" mufflers? I'm sure your car is lot of fun to drive, where you live, but for me it just wouldn't work, neither would an DB9, I'd have to bring home on a float. Cheers Marty |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... On Sep 18, 7:03 am, jlrogers±³© wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. Now that's funny! Bob you slay me. How you get people to take this crap seriously enough to argue with you is a real art. You are the master. Even though I've been in both cars and you haven't you might want to consider the facts. The DB9 is a partially hand built car and so is the GT-R. The DB9 is a expensive car from a company that has nearly gone under several times and has been unable to survive on it's own. Their products do not represent the best of the market in any respect and NEVER have. If you find the DB9 to be the most beautiful car and that's what matters most to you then buy one. Now consider the Nissan GT-R. Only 1500 were built for USA and it represents virtually every technology available to maximize high performance driving. It is built to a MUCH higher spec than any Lexus or Infiniti for example. Unlike the DB9 the GT-R rides no rails between luxury and speed. It has one goal. It's sophistication is so far beyond the DB9 that it completely antiquates it. Even the GT-R seats are the very best and the interior is being called the best ever, not just for a supercar, but for ANY car. Manufacturing tolerances for the GT-R were further refined beyond all previous standards. The cockpit of the GT-R has instrumentation that even displays G force and specific acceleration charts. It's not just a bit better handling or somewhat faster than a DB9. It's HUGELY faster and better handling. 0-60 at 3.3 seconds and the car has yet to be flash tuned! Amazingly, on a tight road coarse, the Evo is nearly as fast. Only the GT-R's massive HP advantage lets it pull away in the short straights. In the end a simple fact remains. None of you own a DB9, Evo X or GT- R. Ozzy and I are buying Evo's and I have a deposit on a GT-R with my dealer in New Rochelle. The rest of you are googling up fast cars and taking laughable driving lessons. You saw a DB9 being driven by James Bond and you wet yourselves. Then you drove home in your Pontiacs or Jeep or old-man-sedan. So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. RB From Consumer reports October 2008 About the EVO: Ride: stiff, Poor, noisy, "frenetic highway behavior" Steering: too light, oversteers, frenetic highway behavior Interior plastics are drab and cheap looking Seats do not adjust for height, ditto steering wheel Pedals too close together Driving position sucks 0 to 60: slower than the BMW, Subaru 1/4 mile: slower than the BMW and Subaru Turing circle: greater than BMW, Subaru, VW Avoid maneuver: slower than the BMW MPG: less than BMW, VW Interior fit and finish: poor Luggage: room for 1 suitcase Front shoulder room: 54.5 inches front leg room: 42 inches front head room: 6' 3" (Bob's head will get the pounding it deserves) Consumer Reports Rankings (Oct 2008) BMW 135i 97 Mazdaspeed3 90 Impreza WRX STi 89 Mazda RX-8 86 VW R#@ DSG 89 Lancer EVO GSR 83 |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
... Capt. Rob wrote: So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. '90 Nissan Pathfinder, 300k on it, best damned snow truck I've ever had. When you get your GT-R, bring it up here in January, we'll race around the block. Betcha my Nissan beats yours, (well in three feet of snow). I'll even give you a handicap, I'll tow a trailer with a couple of cords of hickory in it! Cheers Marty Hey Marty, I'll have to get my ole CJ-7 going. Now, that would be fun. Can we include driving over fallen redwoods? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:47:44 +1000, OzOne wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:42:31 -0400, wrote: Um... I'm not Donal. I'm also much less than impressed with your car. I'm not Bob, and you've never driven one I've never had sex with Paris Hilton, and she doesn't impress me either. Well, she probably impresses me more than Bob and his cars. Be glad you are not Bob - not that your present state is that much more desirable. But, you have to admit, she's got a great ad. LOL (Pun police are at the door....) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Capt. Rob wrote: So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. '90 Nissan Pathfinder, 300k on it, best damned snow truck I've ever had. When you get your GT-R, bring it up here in January, we'll race around the block. Betcha my Nissan beats yours, (well in three feet of snow). I'll even give you a handicap, I'll tow a trailer with a couple of cords of hickory in it! Cheers Marty Hey Marty, I'll have to get my ole CJ-7 going. Now, that would be fun. Can we include driving over fallen redwoods? Sure, but you'll have to haul 'em up here. I can provide you with oak, maple, ash, hickory, elm, birch, beach, black cherry.. they all grow on the farm. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Want to have instant messaging, and chat rooms, and discussion groups for your local users or business, you need dbabble! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dbabble.htm ---- |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:48:46 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Capt. Rob wrote: So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. '90 Nissan Pathfinder, 300k on it, best damned snow truck I've ever had. When you get your GT-R, bring it up here in January, we'll race around the block. Betcha my Nissan beats yours, (well in three feet of snow). I'll even give you a handicap, I'll tow a trailer with a couple of cords of hickory in it! Cheers Marty Hey Marty, I'll have to get my ole CJ-7 going. Now, that would be fun. Can we include driving over fallen redwoods? That won't cut it, Jon. Bob's car has the anti-gravity chip mod, and can fly right over the fallen redwood... And your jeep. Dang, I thought Q only put those things in Aston Martins. Cheers marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Do your users want the best web-email gateway? Don't let your customers drift off to free webmail services install your own web gateway! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_webmail.htm ---- |
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... On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:48:46 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Capt. Rob wrote: So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. '90 Nissan Pathfinder, 300k on it, best damned snow truck I've ever had. When you get your GT-R, bring it up here in January, we'll race around the block. Betcha my Nissan beats yours, (well in three feet of snow). I'll even give you a handicap, I'll tow a trailer with a couple of cords of hickory in it! Cheers Marty Hey Marty, I'll have to get my ole CJ-7 going. Now, that would be fun. Can we include driving over fallen redwoods? That won't cut it, Jon. Bob's car has the anti-gravity chip mod, and can fly right over the fallen redwood... And your jeep. I remember now. It only cost him $1B, but his part-time job is good enough to cover it. Or, was it book sales. I forget. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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From Consumer reports October 2008 About the EVO:
Ride: stiff, Poor, noisy, "frenetic highway behavior" Steering: too light, oversteers, frenetic highway behavior Interior plastics are drab and cheap looking Seats do not adjust for height, ditto steering wheel Pedals too close together Driving position sucks 0 to 60: slower than the BMW, Subaru 1/4 mile: slower than the BMW and Subaru Turing circle: greater than BMW, Subaru, VW Avoid maneuver: slower than the BMW MPG: less than BMW, VW Interior fit and finish: poor Luggage: room for 1 suitcase Front shoulder room: 54.5 inches front leg room: 42 inches front head room: 6' 3" (Bob's head will get the pounding it deserves) Consumer Reports Rankings (Oct 2008) BMW 135i 97 Mazdaspeed3 90 Impreza WRX STi 89 Mazda RX-8 86 VW R#@ DSG 89 Lancer EVO GSR 83 |
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On Sep 18, 7:31*am, jlrogers±³© wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... On Sep 18, 7:03 am, jlrogers±³© wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... *And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. Now that's funny! *Bob you slay me. *How you get people to take this crap seriously enough to argue with you is a real art. *You are the master.. Even though I've been in both cars and you haven't you might want to consider the facts. The DB9 is a partially hand built car and so is the GT-R. The DB9 is a expensive car from a company that has nearly gone under several times and has been unable to survive on it's own. Their products do not represent the best of the market in any respect and NEVER have. If you find the DB9 to be the most beautiful car and that's what matters most to you then buy one. Now consider the Nissan GT-R. Only 1500 were built for USA and it represents virtually every technology available to maximize high performance driving. It is built to a MUCH higher spec than any Lexus or Infiniti for example. Unlike the DB9 the GT-R rides no rails between luxury and speed. It has one goal. It's sophistication is so far beyond the DB9 that it completely antiquates it. Even the GT-R seats are the very best and the interior is being called the best ever, not just for a supercar, but for ANY car. Manufacturing tolerances for the GT-R were further refined beyond all previous standards. The cockpit of the GT-R has instrumentation that even displays G force and specific acceleration charts. It's not just a bit better handling or somewhat faster than a DB9. It's HUGELY faster and better handling. 0-60 at 3.3 seconds and the car has yet to be flash tuned! Amazingly, on a tight road coarse, the Evo is nearly as fast. Only the GT-R's massive HP advantage lets it pull away in the short straights. In the end a simple fact remains. None of you own a DB9, Evo X or GT- R. Ozzy and I are buying Evo's and I have a deposit on a GT-R with my dealer in New Rochelle. The rest of you are googling up fast cars and taking laughable driving lessons. You saw a DB9 being driven by James Bond and you wet yourselves. Then you drove home in your Pontiacs or Jeep or old-man-sedan. So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. RB From Consumer reports October 2008 About the EVO: Ride: * stiff, Poor, noisy, "frenetic highway behavior" Steering: too light, oversteers, frenetic highway behavior Interior plastics *are drab and cheap looking Seats do not adjust for height, ditto steering wheel Pedals too close together Driving position sucks 0 to 60: * * slower than the *BMW, Subaru 1/4 mile: * *slower than the BMW and Subaru Turing circle: *greater than BMW, Subaru, VW Avoid maneuver: * slower than the BMW MPG: *less than BMW, VW Interior fit and finish: * poor Luggage: * *room for 1 suitcase Front shoulder room: * *54.5 inches front leg room: * 42 inches front head room: * * 6' 3" (Bob's head will get the pounding it deserves) Consumer Reports Rankings (Oct 2008) BMW 135i * * * * * * * * *97 Mazdaspeed3 * * * * * * 90 Impreza WRX STi * * 89 Mazda RX-8 * * * * * * * 86 VW R#@ DSG * * * * * 89 Lancer EVO GSR * * * *83 Yup! The only negative comments in the industry about the Evo came from Consumer Reports. They also got the worst performance out of ALL of the cars they tested. They also think Bose makes great speakers. If you'd like some insight into how the Evo stacks up against the STI, watch this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPB4aSyq40 RB |
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On Sep 18, 9:33*am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Sep 18, 7:31*am, jlrogers±³© wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message .... On Sep 18, 7:03 am, jlrogers±³© wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message .... *And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. Now that's funny! *Bob you slay me. *How you get people to take this crap seriously enough to argue with you is a real art. *You are the master. Even though I've been in both cars and you haven't you might want to consider the facts. The DB9 is a partially hand built car and so is the GT-R. The DB9 is a expensive car from a company that has nearly gone under several times and has been unable to survive on it's own. Their products do not represent the best of the market in any respect and NEVER have. If you find the DB9 to be the most beautiful car and that's what matters most to you then buy one. Now consider the Nissan GT-R. Only 1500 were built for USA and it represents virtually every technology available to maximize high performance driving. It is built to a MUCH higher spec than any Lexus or Infiniti for example. Unlike the DB9 the GT-R rides no rails between luxury and speed. It has one goal. It's sophistication is so far beyond the DB9 that it completely antiquates it. Even the GT-R seats are the very best and the interior is being called the best ever, not just for a supercar, but for ANY car. Manufacturing tolerances for the GT-R were further refined beyond all previous standards. The cockpit of the GT-R has instrumentation that even displays G force and specific acceleration charts. It's not just a bit better handling or somewhat faster than a DB9. It's HUGELY faster and better handling. 0-60 at 3.3 seconds and the car has yet to be flash tuned! Amazingly, on a tight road coarse, the Evo is nearly as fast. Only the GT-R's massive HP advantage lets it pull away in the short straights. In the end a simple fact remains. None of you own a DB9, Evo X or GT- R. Ozzy and I are buying Evo's and I have a deposit on a GT-R with my dealer in New Rochelle. The rest of you are googling up fast cars and taking laughable driving lessons. You saw a DB9 being driven by James Bond and you wet yourselves. Then you drove home in your Pontiacs or Jeep or old-man-sedan. So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. RB From Consumer reports October 2008 About the EVO: Ride: * stiff, Poor, noisy, "frenetic highway behavior" Steering: too light, oversteers, frenetic highway behavior Interior plastics *are drab and cheap looking Seats do not adjust for height, ditto steering wheel Pedals too close together Driving position sucks 0 to 60: * * slower than the *BMW, Subaru 1/4 mile: * *slower than the BMW and Subaru Turing circle: *greater than BMW, Subaru, VW Avoid maneuver: * slower than the BMW MPG: *less than BMW, VW Interior fit and finish: * poor Luggage: * *room for 1 suitcase Front shoulder room: * *54.5 inches front leg room: * 42 inches front head room: * * 6' 3" (Bob's head will get the pounding it deserves) Consumer Reports Rankings (Oct 2008) BMW 135i * * * * * * * * *97 Mazdaspeed3 * * * * * * 90 Impreza WRX STi * * 89 Mazda RX-8 * * * * * * * 86 VW R#@ DSG * * * * * 89 Lancer EVO GSR * * * *83 Yup! The only negative comments in the industry about the Evo came from Consumer Reports. They also got the worst performance out of ALL of the cars they tested. They also think Bose makes great speakers. If you'd like some insight into how the Evo stacks up against the STI, watch this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPB4aSyq40 RB- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPB4aSyq40 RB |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
from Consumer Reports. They also got the worst performance out of ALL of the cars they tested. They also think Bose makes great speakers. Well, that's something we agree on, Bose are overpriced boxes that make a mess out of rendering music. Never did hold CR in to high a regard. Cheers Marty |
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On Sep 18, 10:08*am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote: from Consumer Reports. They also got the worst performance out of ALL of the cars they tested. They also think Bose makes great speakers. Well, that's something we agree on, Bose are overpriced boxes that make a mess out of rendering music. Never did hold CR in to high a regard. They're review of thos cars is more about practicality and comfort. CR is not set up to really judge performance cars. The STI is a more livable care for daily driving. The Evo is pretty harsh, but that's part of the design goal. The STI was once the same way, but they softened it, As for Bose...awful. I'm using Magnepan 1.6 with custome Mye stands. Both my CD player and pre-amp are tube based, but the amp is not. Sadly I only get to sit down once or twice a week to listen.... http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p268388597-5.jpg RB |
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