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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
... From Consumer reports October 2008 About the EVO: Ride: stiff, Poor, noisy, "frenetic highway behavior" Steering: too light, oversteers, frenetic highway behavior Interior plastics are drab and cheap looking Seats do not adjust for height, ditto steering wheel Pedals too close together Driving position sucks 0 to 60: slower than the BMW, Subaru 1/4 mile: slower than the BMW and Subaru Turing circle: greater than BMW, Subaru, VW Avoid maneuver: slower than the BMW MPG: less than BMW, VW Interior fit and finish: poor Luggage: room for 1 suitcase Front shoulder room: 54.5 inches front leg room: 42 inches front head room: 6' 3" (Bob's head will get the pounding it deserves) Consumer Reports Rankings (Oct 2008) BMW 135i 97 Mazdaspeed3 90 Impreza WRX STi 89 Mazda RX-8 86 VW R#@ DSG 89 Lancer EVO GSR 83 You forgot... looks like crap! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message .. .. big snip of boring automobile stuff Yup! The only negative comments in the industry about the Evo came from Consumer Reports. They also got the worst performance out of ALL of the cars they tested. They also think Bose makes great speakers. If you'd like some insight into how the Evo stacks up against the STI, watch this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPB4aSyq40 Group, I am sorry but I feel a rant coming on about sparked off by all this boys-toys supercar stuff which for some time I have been marking 'all as read' because it bores me.. To me, a car is merely a means by which myself, my family and our gear and supplies get to the marina where our fine yacht awaits us. To Bobsprit who has, it would seem, owned several cars without actually doing anything spectacular with any of them, his car is the latest of the many status symbols with which he has regaled this group. This is a sailing group and he still posts under the heading of '35.5 Heart of Gold' with no indication at all that he has even sailed the thing this year although we do know that when he did it was only for an hour or two out in LIS. Moreover, because it was the latest thing, he bought some sort of high-tech BLACK racing mainsail for his boat. Since he never races, such a sail is purely a talking point on a family yacht and totally unnecesary for the limited family sailing he does and because of its colour it will surely destroy itself from UV light exposure before very long. Racing people will supersede a sail for other reasons before that happens. So the pointless car he boasts about will soon also be old hat and the latest toy will take its place. Witness also his boasting about his home cinema and sound system. Can't remember what he once said he played on it but I do recall that it did not seem to justify a top-of-the -range audio system. But I must be fair. He does seem to know something about cameras and when he was enthusing about the Nikon D200 and reminding us that the 'glass' was the important thing he seemed to make some sense so I bought one for my wife together with a Nikkor 28-105 and a Nikkor 70-200 lens and with this gear she is taking some fantastic photos. But then he reverted to type and instead of taking pictures with that excellent gear he went all-out for the next new camera Nikon came out with and with that takes snapshots of his little son. The guy is obsessed with owning the latest of everything and yet never seems to hang onto anything long enough to get the best out of it. I think is is really sad. Right, having got that off my chest, I will have a look to see if anyone is posting about sailing. |
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Edgar...calm yourself. I'm now shooting with a D700 and I have the
very best lenses. I can shoot nicely with lesser lenses, but it's fun to use the high end glass because it's more flexible. I shoot on a regular basis. These were done last week with the boat camera...a cheap Nikon D40: http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/p138832069/slideshow Cheers, RB |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:09:35 -0500, jlrogers±³©
wrote: From Consumer reports October 2008 About the EVO: Ride: stiff, Poor, noisy, "frenetic highway behavior" Steering: too light, oversteers, frenetic highway behavior Interior plastics are drab and cheap looking Seats do not adjust for height, ditto steering wheel Pedals too close together Driving position sucks 0 to 60: slower than the BMW, Subaru 1/4 mile: slower than the BMW and Subaru Turing circle: greater than BMW, Subaru, VW Avoid maneuver: slower than the BMW MPG: less than BMW, VW Interior fit and finish: poor Luggage: room for 1 suitcase Front shoulder room: 54.5 inches front leg room: 42 inches front head room: 6' 3" (Bob's head will get the pounding it deserves) Consumer Reports Rankings (Oct 2008) BMW 135i 97 Mazdaspeed3 90 Impreza WRX STi 89 Mazda RX-8 86 VW R#@ DSG 89 Lancer EVO GSR 83 A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:34:56 -0400, Martin Baxter
wrote: OzOne wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:14:11 -0400, Martin Baxter wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do all that well. Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win? Uh, Earth to Marty...come in Marty! Do you read? The Evo X is new. It has nothing to do with earlier cars. New engine, suspension, tranny and sheet metal. Getting a bit strident there Bob. Yes I do read, you posted "It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9", and now you say it's "new", sort of contradictory. You could buy a travel guide for Tahiti and learn a good deal. You could buy a Gauguin and learn something different. Cheers Marty Huh? It's new and has a history of previous models having great success. What is the contradiction.....Oh I see, you've withdrawn. Very good Oz, now try "It has *nothing* to do with earlier cars..." apposed with your "history of previous models". Clear 'nuff? Cheers Marty What's clear that 'HISTORY' refers to previous models! The Evo X has not yet been fully developed and is just entering the very early stages of its career. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On Sep 19, 2:06*am, OzOne wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:34:56 -0400, Martin Baxter wrote: OzOne wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:14:11 -0400, Martin Baxter wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Last time a factory EVO was entered in the WRC was 2005, it didn't do all that well. *Which rally was the win in Bob, or was it a win? Uh, Earth to Marty...come in Marty! Do you read? The Evo X is new. It has nothing to do with earlier cars. New engine, suspension, tranny and sheet metal. Getting a bit strident there Bob. Yes I do read, you posted "It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9", and now you say it's *"new", sort of contradictory. You could buy a travel guide for Tahiti and learn a good deal. You could buy a Gauguin and learn something different. Cheers Marty Huh? It's new and has a history of previous models having great success. What is the contradiction.....Oh I see, you've withdrawn. Very good Oz, now try "It has *nothing* to do with earlier cars..." apposed with your "history of previous models". Clear 'nuff? Cheers Marty What's clear that 'HISTORY' refers to previous models! The Evo X has not yet been fully developed and is just entering the very early stages of its career. Ozzy, you'll never get them to understand. What's funny is that think I'm bragging about a car that is essentially not designed to be a status car. If we wanted that there are plenty for the same price. Instead the Evo is a speciality car for the enthusiast market. It's a car that impresses them alone. It's not for folks like Donal and Marty who see a DB9 has the height of automotive engineering because of the sheet metal or leather. For the enthusiast driver a DB9 is in a class below the Evo, GT-R or 911 AWD Turbo. You can't explain it to them anymore than you can make Donal believe that expensive stuff he'll never own isn't always the best. RB |
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It's not for folks like Donal and Marty who see a DB9 has the height of automotive engineering because of the sheet metal or leather. Now there you go, behaving just like your politicians and spouting lies. I said no such thing. You of course free to and prove otherwise. Until such proof is forthcoming, you remain, a simple liar. Marty |
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On 18 Sep, 01:11, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
You reveal your character by choosing the Evo. Yep..... Someone who loves driving most of all. The same type of person who prefers a Miata to a Z4 or a Lotus Elise over a BMW 335i. Or a 135i over a Infiniti G35s. Donal, you need many more lessons before you'll understand what a specialty car is and the kind of person who buys one. It's about handling refinement, feedback and balance. It's not about raw power. That's why the poor DB9 trails most serious sports cars in every respect important to driving. And that's why a Evo X bests the Aston in many respects on handling finesse and why the GT-R bests in EVERY respect. The Aston is a AMC Gremlin compared to the GT-R. And before you say anything more to wet your own bed, consider that the GT-R is capable of 0-60 in 3.3 seconds and can handle a skidpad WELL over a full G. It handles even better than the Evo X. No car made today can touch it. And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. You are probably right. Take your wife out in your Evo, or your GT-R. Let's face it, she won't be impressed! Earlier tonight, when I parked up, my wife gave me a kiss. It was a kiss that said "We deserve this". You haven't been kissed like that, have you? Oz??? Regards Donal -- |
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Bond and you wet yourselves. Then you drove home in your Pontiacs or Jeep or old-man-sedan. So what are YOU driving? Don't bother being embarrassed. It's really too late for that. Tonight, after I finished our drive, my wife gave me a big kiss. She doesn't understand fast cars, but she appreciated the leather and power. What does Suzanne think about your Evo? regards Donal --- |
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On Sep 19, 6:16 pm, wrote:
On 18 Sep, 01:11, "Capt. Rob" wrote: You reveal your character by choosing the Evo. Yep..... Someone who loves driving most of all. The same type of person who prefers a Miata to a Z4 or a Lotus Elise over a BMW 335i. Or a 135i over a Infiniti G35s. Donal, you need many more lessons before you'll understand what a specialty car is and the kind of person who buys one. It's about handling refinement, feedback and balance. It's not about raw power. That's why the poor DB9 trails most serious sports cars in every respect important to driving. And that's why a Evo X bests the Aston in many respects on handling finesse and why the GT-R bests in EVERY respect. The Aston is a AMC Gremlin compared to the GT-R. And before you say anything more to wet your own bed, consider that the GT-R is capable of 0-60 in 3.3 seconds and can handle a skidpad WELL over a full G. It handles even better than the Evo X. No car made today can touch it. And guess what? The build quality is higher than the DB9. You are probably right. Take your wife out in your Evo, or your GT-R. Let's face it, she won't be impressed! Earlier tonight, when I parked up, my wife gave me a kiss. It was a kiss that said "We deserve this". You haven't been kissed like that, have you? Oz??? Regards Donal -- Your wife kisses you for the kind of car you drive? You have now crossed firmly into the most pathetic zone since poor Captain Neal left these boards. I've never honestly felt sorry for anybody here....maybe Old Thom when he decided he was too old for his boat. But I do seriously pity you. RB |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote: Ozzy, you'll never get them to understand. What's funny is that think I'm bragging about a car that is essentially not designed to be a status car. If we wanted that there are plenty for the same price. Instead the Evo is a speciality car for the enthusiast market. It's a car that impresses them alone. It's not for folks like Donal and Marty who see a DB9 has the height of automotive engineering because of the sheet metal or leather. For the enthusiast driver a DB9 is in a class below the Evo, GT-R or 911 AWD Turbo. You can't explain it to them anymore than you can make Donal believe that expensive stuff he'll never own isn't always the best. RB Yep, the only place my 9 had status was when we were at a track day. My supercharged awd (to you Diamante/Verada) has a Q car cred while delivering ride and handling that any Aston owner with an ounce of driving ability would envy. Of course it looks like a Diamante...but just a little lower and sounds "sorta different"...and goes like a scalded cat! OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:27:02 -0400, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote: It's not for folks like Donal and Marty who see a DB9 has the height of automotive engineering because of the sheet metal or leather. Now there you go, behaving just like your politicians and spouting lies. I said no such thing. You of course free to and prove otherwise. Until such proof is forthcoming, you remain, a simple liar. Marty You're a twonk Marty.....better get down the pub and pick a fight eh! OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On Sep 19, 7:51 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:16:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote: You are probably right. Take your wife out in your Evo, or your GT-R. Let's face it, she won't be impressed! Earlier tonight, when I parked up, my wife gave me a kiss. It was a kiss that said "We deserve this". You haven't been kissed like that, have you? Oz??? Regards Donal My wife is a reasonable race driver and has participated in a number of tarmac rallies. She absolutely glows when she's behind the wheel of either her MX5 or the Evo9 before I sold it. She has often remarked that we're lucky to be able to enjoy this.. The adrenaline after a spirited drive on a winding country road gets me a lot more than a kiss! That's great, Ozzy. Since we got the Legacy turbo and I modded the suspension, Suzanne has enjoyed driving the car more and she drives a 5 speed better than most men I've seen. And she's not so shallow as to respond like poor Donal's wife. I get far more than a special kiss and it sure as hell doesn't require a nice car. The only thing more pathetic than Donal's wife's actions is his willingness to post about it. BTW, I'm having quite a time getting the Evo here in NY. Almost every loaded GSR in Rally Red is sold. I located one in NJ, but the dealer wants a way over MSRP. I may end up getting it from California. RB |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:49:37 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote: That's great, Ozzy. Since we got the Legacy turbo and I modded the suspension, Suzanne has enjoyed driving the car more and she drives a 5 speed better than most men I've seen. And she's not so shallow as to respond like poor Donal's wife. I get far more than a special kiss and it sure as hell doesn't require a nice car. The only thing more pathetic than Donal's wife's actions is his willingness to post about it. BTW, I'm having quite a time getting the Evo here in NY. Almost every loaded GSR in Rally Red is sold. I located one in NJ, but the dealer wants a way over MSRP. I may end up getting it from California. RB Indeed, I've pretty much told my dealer that I'll have any colour but they have assured me that after buying 6 Mitsubishis including the 9, that I will have first refusal on their allocation. BTW, an article on the manual here http://www.pressportal.com.au/news/2...008-09-10.html OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 12:59 am, Marty wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Get what? You seem to be concentrating on performance alone, Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's Real race history? Who won the 2007 Le Mans, GT1 class? I remind you, Le Mans is truly a road circuit, and race that separates the lesser from the greater. I thought you would have done a little research. Cheers Marty BWAHAHAHAHA! Okay Marty, YOU need to do some research! Who campaigned the DB9? Show us the DB9's race history vs. the Evo. Evo's are pro raced daily and you might notice that an Evo just took a coveted prize in one of the top rally races in the world. The DB9 is a luxury cruising machine, Marty. It's not a hardcore sports car. It's funny because the longer you and Donal fail to understand that, the dopier you all sound. Bottom line: Never buy anything Ford is involved with! The DB9 at 165K doesn't have a single performance spec that is ahead of the pack. NOT ONE. The Nissan GT-R I have a deposit on outdoes it in every single respect that is key to high performance driving and at half the price. The GT-R is also built better. The DB9 is a pretty, but expensive joke on those who are more interested in how they appear to others. It's a unique mix of high quality with little substance. The fact that an Evo X bests in so many ways important to driving is humiliating enough. Add a GT-R into the mix at just 75K and the DB9 seems like a Mini Cooper by comparison. RB EVOx is a cheap piece of junk. For a little over twice the money you could have a 630 horsepower, 600 ft-lb of torque, true sports car that does 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 0-100 in 7 seconds with a top speed of 200 (11.3 in quarter mile. |
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
... EVOx is a cheap piece of junk. For a little over twice the money you could have a 630 horsepower, 600 ft-lb of torque, true sports car that does 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 0-100 in 7 seconds with a top speed of 200 (11.3 in quarter mile. Go green... I have two friends who are about to take delivery. It's easier to clean up the pollution at the factory than at the tailpipe... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOl_1S10jTk Some history... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i6lm...eature=related Faster than a 911... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTgMW...eature=related 0 to 60 in 3 seconds.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsGeQ...eature=related Here's another car powered by laptop batteries.... wipes out a Dodge Viper 500hp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6gD...eature=related -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... EVOx is a cheap piece of junk. For a little over twice the money you could have a 630 horsepower, 600 ft-lb of torque, true sports car that does 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 0-100 in 7 seconds with a top speed of 200 (11.3 in quarter mile. Go green... I have two friends who are about to take delivery. It's easier to clean up the pollution at the factory than at the tailpipe... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOl_1S10jTk Some history... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i6lm...eature=related Faster than a 911... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTgMW...eature=related 0 to 60 in 3 seconds.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsGeQ...eature=related Here's another car powered by laptop batteries.... wipes out a Dodge Viper 500hp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm6gD...eature=related -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Takes huge balls stand out there and start them...or colossal stupidity... probably both. |
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On 18 Sep, 21:48, "Edgar" wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message .. . big snip of boring automobile stuff Yup! The only negative comments in the industry about the Evo came from Consumer Reports. They also got the worst performance out of ALL of the cars they tested. They also think Bose makes great speakers. If you'd like some insight into how the Evo stacks up against the STI, watch this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPB4aSyq40 Group, I am sorry but I feel a rant coming on about sparked off by all this boys-toys supercar stuff which for some time I have been marking 'all as read' because it bores me.. You are right. However, I would point out that when I go to the sailing club, we do not restrict our talk to sailing. We discuss politics, the economy, immigration and all the other things that are in the newspapers at the time. The good thing about this group is that we all enjoy sailing. I have almost nothing to say about sailing at the moment because it has been raining almost every weekend this summer. I've only had 5 outings this year...... The forecast looks good for tomorrow, but the tide isn't quite right. So, we will go to Wooton Creek for Sunday lunch. If the wind is kind, we will have a few hours of nice sailing afterwards. To me, a car is merely a means by which myself, my family and our gear and supplies get to the marina where our fine yacht awaits us. To Bobsprit who has, it would seem, owned several cars without actually doing anything spectacular with any of them, his car is the latest of the many status symbols with which he has regaled this group. This is a sailing group and he still posts under the heading of '35.5 Heart of Gold' with no indication at all that he has even sailed the thing this year although we do know that when he did it was only for an hour or two out in LIS. Well, to be fair, Bob never sailed very far from the marina. If he got more than two hours from the marina then I will salute him. BTW Edgar, where do you sail from? Regards Donal -- |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:39:45 -0500, jlrogers±³©
wrote: EVOx is a cheap piece of junk. For a little over twice the money you could have a 630 horsepower, 600 ft-lb of torque, true sports car that does 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, 0-100 in 7 seconds with a top speed of 200 (11.3 in quarter mile. Do you get a free gym membership so you're capable of wrestling it around corners? OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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OzOne wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:09:35 -0500, jlrogers±³© wrote: From Consumer reports October 2008 About the EVO: Ride: stiff, Poor, noisy, "frenetic highway behavior" Steering: too light, oversteers, frenetic highway behavior Interior plastics are drab and cheap looking Seats do not adjust for height, ditto steering wheel Pedals too close together Driving position sucks 0 to 60: slower than the BMW, Subaru 1/4 mile: slower than the BMW and Subaru Turing circle: greater than BMW, Subaru, VW Avoid maneuver: slower than the BMW MPG: less than BMW, VW Interior fit and finish: poor Luggage: room for 1 suitcase Front shoulder room: 54.5 inches front leg room: 42 inches front head room: 6' 3" (Bob's head will get the pounding it deserves) Consumer Reports Rankings (Oct 2008) BMW 135i 97 Mazdaspeed3 90 Impreza WRX STi 89 Mazda RX-8 86 VW R#@ DSG 89 Lancer EVO GSR 83 A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. |
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
... The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. I think there are probably three people in the whole of Usenet who actually care about this crap. You notice that neither Bob nor Oz has once mentioned sailing. Instead they go on and on about some crappy sports car, as though that defines them as men. What a joke. I drive have a used jeep, a used ranger pickup, and a nice older mercedes. I don't need to impress anyone with my car nor would I want to nor did I ever want to, even when I was 20-something. If this thread isn't bad enough, there are two more of the same bs. At this point, I've killfiled both of them. The discussion was entertaining for a while, but now it's just dumb. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0500, jlrogers±³©
wrote: A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. Actually the all leather interior and superb sound system is very very good...did I mention that this same website rated the Mustang as the best sports car....Many would wonder why it was even in that group..must be the fact that the roof comes off.... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:07:49 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message ... The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. I think there are probably three people in the whole of Usenet who actually care about this crap. You notice that neither Bob nor Oz has once mentioned sailing. Instead they go on and on about some crappy sports car, as though that defines them as men. What a joke. I drive have a used jeep, a used ranger pickup, and a nice older mercedes. I don't need to impress anyone with my car nor would I want to nor did I ever want to, even when I was 20-something. If this thread isn't bad enough, there are two more of the same bs. At this point, I've killfiled both of them. The discussion was entertaining for a while, but now it's just dumb. I rarely sail these days....Flying has taken my interest...I drop in from time to time to watch the goings on. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On Sep 20, 1:05 am, OzOne wrote:
You're a twonk snip Well.... Oz..... I used to believe that you drove a Ferrari. If you really do have a Ferrari, then you are demeaning the Marque. Regards Donal -- |
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On Sep 22, 10:29 am, OzOne wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0500, jlrogers±³© wrote: A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. Actually the all leather interior and superb sound system is very very good What on Earth is the point of a good sound system in a car that doesn't have any sound insulation? You cannot hear the music anyway!!! Regards Donal -- |
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On Sep 22, 5:31 pm, wrote:
On Sep 22, 10:29 am, OzOne wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0500, jlrogers±³© wrote: A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. Actually the all leather interior and superb sound system is very very good What on Earth is the point of a good sound system in a car that doesn't have any sound insulation? You cannot hear the music anyway!!! Donal, Ozzy's quite right. The sound system is pretty amazing and the navigation interface is beyond what comes with the DB9. There is less sound insulation in a Evo X, but not for a reason you'd understand or appreciate. But there's still plenty of insulation to enjoy the 650 watt system with powered sub and 9 speakers. Rockford Fosgate designed it to quell aftermarket desire. It does. RB |
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote: On Sep 22, 5:31 pm, wrote: On Sep 22, 10:29 am, OzOne wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0500, jlrogers±³© wrote: A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. Actually the all leather interior and superb sound system is very very good What on Earth is the point of a good sound system in a car that doesn't have any sound insulation? You cannot hear the music anyway!!! Donal, Ozzy's quite right. The sound system is pretty amazing and the navigation interface is beyond what comes with the DB9. There is less sound insulation in a Evo X, but not for a reason you'd understand or appreciate. But there's still plenty of insulation to enjoy the 650 watt system with powered sub and 9 speakers. Rockford Fosgate designed it to quell aftermarket desire. It does. RB Does your MG have a radio? |
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On Sep 23, 6:24 am, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:31:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 22, 10:29 am, OzOne wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0500, jlrogers±³© wrote: A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. Actually the all leather interior and superb sound system is very very good What on Earth is the point of a good sound system in a car that doesn't have any sound insulation? You cannot hear the music anyway!!! Regards Donal You've never seen an EvoX have you? OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. Ozzy, these clowns are busy comparing luxo-boats with AWD rally cars. Donal has no idea why sound insulation would be reduced in a sports car and Jlrogers is about to tell us and websters what a contemporary sports car is. Of course if we allow that, then he's elevating the Evo X even more. Among 4 door sedans that can seat 5 the EvoX has no equal, besting all in it's class as a "sports sedan." Call it a sports car and it has some serious rivals and even a few that topple it. Most in the industry are calling it sports car or sports sedan interchangeably. Of course they haven't seen one. They probably never even heard of it. RB |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... Ozzy, these clowns are busy comparing luxo-boats with AWD rally cars. Donal has no idea why sound insulation would be reduced in a sports car and Jlrogers is about to tell us and websters what a contemporary sports car is. Of course if we allow that, then he's elevating the Evo X even more. Among 4 door sedans that can seat 5 the EvoX has no equal, besting all in it's class as a "sports sedan." Call it a sports car and it has some serious rivals and even a few that topple it. Most in the industry are calling it sports car or sports sedan interchangeably. Of course they haven't seen one. They probably never even heard of it. RB Sure we have. In Odessa they're called Mexican Hondas. |
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On 23 Sep, 00:22, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Sep 22, 5:31 pm, wrote: On Sep 22, 10:29 am, OzOne wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0500, jlrogers±³© wrote: A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. Actually the all leather interior and superb sound system is very very good What on Earth is the point of a good sound system in a car that doesn't have any sound insulation? You cannot hear the music anyway!!! Donal, Ozzy's quite right. The sound system is pretty amazing and the navigation interface is beyond what comes with the DB9. There is less sound insulation in a Evo X, but not for a reason you'd understand or appreciate. But there's still plenty of insulation to enjoy the 650 watt system with powered sub and 9 speakers. Rockford Fosgate designed it to quell aftermarket desire. It does. Bob, You don't seem to understand the difference between 650W "peak music power" and "5W RMS". HINT-- There isn't much difference! If you used 650W of real power inside an Evo, then you would be rendered profoundly deaf. Regards Donal -- |
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On Sep 23, 5:56 pm, wrote:
On 23 Sep, 00:22, "Capt. Rob" wrote: On Sep 22, 5:31 pm, wrote: On Sep 22, 10:29 am, OzOne wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0500, jlrogers±³© wrote: A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. Actually the all leather interior and superb sound system is very very good What on Earth is the point of a good sound system in a car that doesn't have any sound insulation? You cannot hear the music anyway!!! Donal, Ozzy's quite right. The sound system is pretty amazing and the navigation interface is beyond what comes with the DB9. There is less sound insulation in a Evo X, but not for a reason you'd understand or appreciate. But there's still plenty of insulation to enjoy the 650 watt system with powered sub and 9 speakers. Rockford Fosgate designed it to quell aftermarket desire. It does. Bob, You don't seem to understand the difference between 650W "peak music power" and "5W RMS". HINT-- There isn't much difference! If you used 650W of real power inside an Evo, then you would be rendered profoundly deaf. Regards Donal -- Donal, do some math. There are a total of 10 speakers. The sub will be the most demanding. Typically car based amps have little to no headroom, so a rating of 650, while better than most, is still very high. RB |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... On Sep 23, 5:56 pm, wrote: On 23 Sep, 00:22, "Capt. Rob" wrote: On Sep 22, 5:31 pm, wrote: On Sep 22, 10:29 am, OzOne wrote: On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0500, jlrogers±³© wrote: A sure indication the Evo owners are far more discerning than others... OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. The old Evo’s interior was cheaper than a one-star Romanian hotel. The new Lancer’s interior is a bit more upmarket, but it’s still a third-rate romance, low rent [Buick] rendezvous. Actually the all leather interior and superb sound system is very very good What on Earth is the point of a good sound system in a car that doesn't have any sound insulation? You cannot hear the music anyway!!! Donal, Ozzy's quite right. The sound system is pretty amazing and the navigation interface is beyond what comes with the DB9. There is less sound insulation in a Evo X, but not for a reason you'd understand or appreciate. But there's still plenty of insulation to enjoy the 650 watt system with powered sub and 9 speakers. Rockford Fosgate designed it to quell aftermarket desire. It does. Bob, You don't seem to understand the difference between 650W "peak music power" and "5W RMS". HINT-- There isn't much difference! If you used 650W of real power inside an Evo, then you would be rendered profoundly deaf. Regards Donal -- Donal, do some math. There are a total of 10 speakers. The sub will be the most demanding. Typically car based amps have little to no headroom, so a rating of 650, while better than most, is still very high. RB Ut'oh, now we are going to be subjected to an argument on the theory of audio power measurement, something even most engineers can't get right. Suffice it to say, please, that most car sound systems are loud enough to rock and roll the dead in any cemetery within 3 miles of the road, and are annoying as hell to all but the crack smoking cretins roaring by in their tricked out and tuned, over-priced sheet metal, motorized pieces of ****. |
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Ut'oh, now we are going to be subjected to an argument on the theory of audio power measurement, something even most engineers can't get right. Suffice it to say, please, that most car sound systems are loud enough to rock and roll the dead in any cemetery within 3 miles of the road, and are annoying as hell to all but the crack smoking cretins roaring by in their tricked out and tuned, over-priced sheet metal, motorized pieces of ****. Fine. But also remember that frequency response and proper balance are another matter. In fact, while I've heard some car based systems with good frequency response, all were incapable of creating any kind of audio image effect. The Kia Sedona, with it's 7.1 surround system complete with center channel was probably the best, but lacked low end power. The Evo X Rockford Fosgate is NOT the best car system I've heard, but it is the best STOCK stereo I've heard. It uses the RF Premium Punch speakers and matched amp. The Navigation system is made by Mitsubishi and serves as the head unit as well. It's far more customizable than anything else on the market. It even plays DVDs on it's screen. It's also well ahead of virtually all others since it's hard drive based and will also rip CDs to it's own music server. RB |
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On 23 Sep, 23:52, Marty wrote:
wrote: If you used 650W of real power inside an Evo, then you would be rendered profoundly deaf. Donal, you seem to have forgotten that Bob was employed as thug to beat up drunks in loud bars when he was younger; his hearing is already shot. Marty, you are right. I keep thinking that Bob is a gentleman. I guess that I must have a generous spirit. Regards Donal -- |
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