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On Sep 11, 10:04 am, wrote:
On Sep 10, 7:14 pm, wrote: On 10 Sep, 05:09, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Quick review for Donal.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmIbJA3RW_Y Dang, this is "performance driving"? I watched about half of the video, a 4-door econobox doing fairly impressive power slides and then switching to a view of the driver... to be sure, he was busy talking for the camera but he was also yanking the steering wheel like 7-year- old kid. Is that what this "Active Yaw Control" is for, so that people don't have to learn to actually steer the car? Given his job & position, I bet he knows better but it's still a very poor show. I've been out of the sports car game for a really long time but if this is what it's sunk to, I'm certainly not interested in getting back in. Nobody is looking for you to get back in either especially since you're making judgments based on how a guy is conducting a video review of a car. Why not do some actual research. Maybe you'll even learn why Top Gear says the Evo X is another car that represents a leap forward in sports car design. Given the Evo's raw character, 40K is a bit steep. But if you have FU money to have fun and like great handling cars, the Evo X is a lot of fun. RB |
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On 11 Sep, 22:29, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Nobody is looking for you to get back in either especially since you're making judgments based on how a guy is conducting a video review of a car. Why not do some actual research. Maybe you'll even learn why Top Gear says the Evo X is another car that represents a leap forward in sports car design. Given the Evo's raw character, 40K is a bit steep. Steep? Don't you mean cheap? [Hmmm .....] if you translate "raw" into "unrefined" then maybe you were correct. regards Donal -- |
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On 11 Sep, 15:04, wrote:
On Sep 10, 7:14 pm, wrote: BTW I had a test drive in a DB9 yesterday. It was lovely. I stroked the rear, and it felt beautiful. Is "M" finished installing the ejector seat and anti-air rockets, Mr Bond? ;) The only rocket fitted to the production model seems to be pointing out the rear. Flooring the throttle is an eye opening, buttock clenching, scary experience for someone who thought that he was an above average driver. What number plate do you think that I should have? BO55 DON seems a bit too expensive. What do you think about "V12 DON"? D10NAL is also available, but it doesn't seen quite right. Well how about DB9NAL? That would be absolutely perfect! It isn't too ostentatious. Unfortunately, it isn't possible over here. Bob could go for F4T BOB. Regards Donal -- Regards- Doug King |
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On 11 Sep, 02:20, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
So, driving down my twisty road, into a deep negative bank, the Evo X will drift a bit, then the active yaw control system will seamlessly divert power. Coming out of the turn all four wheels will blast the Evo into an evenly weighted stance. As you learn to trust the AYC and the amazing grip you can make such maneuvers faster still. In the DB9 you'd have less grip. With only RWD, the rear end would start to slide. Stay calm and ease off on the power and you MIGHT stay on the road, but there's only so much give in a simple suspension. Coming out of the turn you weight for the chassis to recompose before laying down heavy power. The DB9's torque advantage is high and she takes off. But the Evo is already five turns ahead. Then you arrive at the marina in your Evo, and people are not surprised when they see you step onto a "vintage" Pearson 30. Good write-up, Bob, but no banana! BTW, did you see Jeremy Clarkson's review of the Kia? Regards Donal -- |
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Then you arrive at the marina in your Evo, and people are not
surprised when they see you step onto a "vintage" Pearson 30. Not likely, Donal. Evo X's are exceedingly rare. To date I've seen only one on the road. Specialty cars draw more attention, though mostly from driving enthusiasts and police. This is NY. No one cares much about expensive cars because they're everywhere. Both here and in LA all you see are Porsches, BMWs and just about every 6 figure car on the market. Big whoop. Exclusivity and real world performance are what it's all about. If you need to have people in awe of your wallet, buy a DB9. That's what the cars says. But people in the know what a drivers car is. You don't. Oh....and I'm the guy with the sweet little 1st series and the Kevlar sails. Where's your boat these days? Hmmmmm? Do you plan to impress us all with sailing lessons aboard a Swan or Baltic? RB |
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Steep? Don't you mean cheap?
[Hmmm .....] if you translate "raw" into "unrefined" then maybe you were correct. 40K for a car with virtually no comforts beyond power windows is not what anyone would call cheap. You can get a really nice 3 series or Lexus for that money and there are plenty of well rounded cars in that price range. The Evo X aims at the driver market, which is not you. You want to buy into the "I'm so cool to be driving this car" market. A DB9 impresses common folk, but not hardcore enthusiasts. The fact that YOU ignore it's weak performance says it all. A Dodge Cobalt SS can handle about as well as the DB9! RB |
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Then you arrive at the marina in your Evo, and people are not surprised when they see you step onto a "vintage" Pearson 30. Not likely, Donal. Evo X's are exceedingly rare. To date I've seen only one on the road. Specialty cars draw more attention, though mostly from driving enthusiasts and police. This is NY. No one cares much about expensive cars because they're everywhere. Both here and in LA all you see are Porsches, BMWs and just about every 6 figure car on the market. Big whoop. Exclusivity and real world performance are what it's all about. If you need to have people in awe of your wallet, buy a DB9. That's what the cars says. But people in the know what a drivers car is. You don't. Hey Bob, do you know what the problem with numbers from the skid pan is? Do you know why comparing drag coefficients is often foolish? Now here's a question that should connect the first two; do you know what the drag coefficient is for an F1 car in Monaco configuration? Do you think that you could drive your EVO and beat Shu in a Renault 5 at Monaco? Cheers Marty |
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Hey Bob, do you know what the problem with numbers from the skid pan is? There's no problem so long as they are consistently high in all tests at all times. Do you know why comparing drag coefficients is often foolish? It's hardly foolish. Slippery cars usually are more quiet on the road and due to less wind noise. Compromises between good drag numbers and downforce are a staple of modern auto design. Now here's a question that should connect the first two; do you know what the drag coefficient is for an F1 car in Monaco configuration? That's not really applicable to the discussion and I think you know why. Do you think that you could drive your EVO and beat Shu in a Renault 5 at Monaco? I'm not likely to do well against a professional driver. There's a huge difference between learning a local circuit and doing well and a person who drives at the limits week after week. RB |
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On 12 Sep, 02:04, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Steep? Don't you mean cheap? [Hmmm .....] if you translate "raw" into "unrefined" then maybe you were correct. 40K for a car with virtually no comforts beyond power windows is not what anyone would call cheap. Hmmm.. Is 40k a lot of money to a sub-prime buyer? Possibly. You can get a really nice 3 series or Lexus for that money and there are plenty of well rounded cars in that price range. Unless Lexus are really cheap in the States, then you can only buy an entry level Lexus for 40K. The Evo X aims at the driver market, which is not you. Quite! You want to buy into the "I'm so cool to be driving this car" market. A DB9 impresses common folk, but not hardcore enthusiasts. Yes. A DB9 wouldn't impress a hardcore enthusiast like you. The fact that YOU ignore it's weak performance says it all. A Dodge Cobalt SS can handle about as well as the DB9! You really do understand what "class" means. You compare a Dodge Cobalt with a DB9? Why am I surprised? You cannot see the difference between a DB9 and a mass produced boy racer. Brokeback Mountain proved that you can make money out of films about the gay community. If you were any good, then you could afford an Aston. Regards Donal -- an Evo. |
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On Sep 12, 8:04 pm, wrote:
On 12 Sep, 02:04, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Steep? Don't you mean cheap? [Hmmm .....] if you translate "raw" into "unrefined" then maybe you were correct. 40K for a car with virtually no comforts beyond power windows is not what anyone would call cheap. Hmmm.. Is 40k a lot of money to a sub-prime buyer? Possibly. I dunno. What exactly is a sub-prime buyer? My home is paid off after 14 months and I still own lakefront. Does paying off 590K worth of property make me subprime? I hope I can keep that status! Unless Lexus are really cheap in the States, then you can only buy an entry level Lexus for 40K. I can buy a loaded IS 350 for about the same price as the Evo or I could get a nice GS 350 for a couple of grand more. An M35 from Infiniti is certainly doable as well. Now think of the EvoX in the same price range, but with very little comfort or luxury. Why is that, Donal? The problem here is you don't know the difference between a luxury car, sports sedan, sports car and specialty tuners car. You just have no clue. Yes. A DB9 wouldn't impress a hardcore enthusiast like you. I'm impressed with the pretty DB9, but not with it's handling or power. It's FAR behind the pack. You really do understand what "class" means. You compare a Dodge Cobalt with a DB9? Sure I know what class means, Donal. But you're a child to think it's wrapped up in objects like cars. RB |
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Sure I know what class means, Donal. But you're a child to think it's wrapped up in objects like cars. This from ASA's Charlie the Tuna, I can barely restrain my mirth. Cheers Marty |
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Hey Bob, do you know what the problem with numbers from the skid pan is? There's no problem so long as they are consistently high in all tests at all times. As I thought, you don't know. Do you know why comparing drag coefficients is often foolish? It's hardly foolish. Slippery cars usually are more quiet on the road and due to less wind noise. Compromises between good drag numbers and downforce are a staple of modern auto design. Once again, you don't know. Now here's a question that should connect the first two; do you know what the drag coefficient is for an F1 car in Monaco configuration? That's not really applicable to the discussion and I think you know why. Of course it is, you just can't grasp it. Do you think that you could drive your EVO and beat Shu in a Renault 5 at Monaco? I'm not likely to do well against a professional driver. There's a huge difference between learning a local circuit and doing well and a person who drives at the limits week after week. Ah, you think practice does it? You remain a poseur. Oh well yet another subject to add to the long list of those of which you are willing to pontificate about without a modicum of understanding. Cheers Marty RB |
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On Sep 12, 11:30 pm, Marty wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote: Sure I know what class means, Donal. But you're a child to think it's wrapped up in objects like cars. This from ASA's Charlie the Tuna, I can barely restrain my mirth. Cheers Marty Whatever the source, you don't seem to be paying any attention to Donal's requirements in a car....it's class and ability to be chosen over others for prime parking spots in casinos. You may ignore his needs and the mentality behind them, but this is not something that interests me in a car. RB |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... Capt. Rob wrote: Sure I know what class means, Donal. But you're a child to think it's wrapped up in objects like cars. This from ASA's Charlie the Tuna, I can barely restrain my mirth. Cheers Marty Marty, why restrain yourself? LOL, it's good for the heart. |
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On 13 Sep, 14:15, jlrogers±³© wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message ... Capt. Rob wrote: Sure I know what class means, Donal. But you're a child to think it's wrapped up in objects like cars. This from ASA's Charlie the Tuna, I can barely restrain my mirth. Cheers Marty Marty, why restrain yourself? LOL, it's good for the heart. .... and also for the soul. regards Donal -- |
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This from ASA's Charlie the Tuna, I can barely restrain my mirth.
Marty, why restrain yourself? *LOL, it's good for the heart. ... and also for the soul. Marty wrote: Speak for yourself, I have no soul, at least not in the biblical sense. Oh, I dunno, I've heard you sing.... seem to have at least a little bit of soul DSK |
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So...I guess it's safe to assume that Ozzy and I have the best handling sports cars on ASA. Are there better cars in the free world? Perhaps, but our Evo X's are now listed among the very best machines irrespective of price. Of course nobody really minds if Ozzy enjoys such a car, but the usual jealous and frustrated suspects have slimed out of their cuddy cabins to cry and moan over MY new car. Poor Donal doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the price...and it STILL doesn't out-handle the Evo X!!! And even more depressing, he clearly has no sports car of his own at all. But he does take driving lessons. Oh, the humanity! So failing to win a single point the discussion dribbled into absurdity and cars of "class" that get preferred parking. And when that didn't work it just got sad for all of you. I must say I'll enjoy driving my tuned Evo X one or two days a week. And after this thread I may enjoy just a tiny bit more! So thanks! RB |
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On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Poor Donal doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the price... Good Lord! I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that it was that cheap. Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9? We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish, but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM. If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB. We all have our dreams. Why are your's so unambitious? regards Donal -- |
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On 15 Sep, 23:01, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Poor Donal doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the price... Good Lord! I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that it was that cheap. Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9? Where can you do even 165MPH? We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish, but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM. If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB. Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston. Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled. We all have our dreams. Why are your's so unambitious? Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park it? Oh c'mon Oz. People *will* stare at an Evo when you park it. It is so bloody ugly that they won't be able to stop staring. Any admiring glances that it gets will be from the lower socio-econimic groups (to put it politely). Most of the "stares" that it attracts will be from people who understand that the driver couldn't afford the car that he really wanted. It makes the same statement as the Subaru Imprezza(sp?). In Australia, I suspect that the poorer parts of the Aboriginal population would be impressed by the Evo. Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. regards Donal -- |
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On Sep 15, 5:40 pm, wrote:
On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Poor Donal doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the price... Good Lord! I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that it was that cheap. Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9? We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish, but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM. If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB. How can you even compare the DB9 to the Evo X? The Evo X has S-AWD and can be driven fast in snow, rain or off-road. The RWD DB9 can't. The Evo X has active yaw control making it one of the best balanced sports sedans ever. The DB9 can't match the Evo's handling numbers for grip or slaloms. The Evo X has an active center differential which enables it to further enhance it's stability. The Evo X stops faster with superior braking design and a more advanced ABS system. The Evo X has a superior sound and navigation system with it's own music server. The Evo X is a popular track and rally car with many wins already. The DB9 is not. The Evo X in MR trim has the most sophisticated transmission available on any car at any price. The DB9 tranny is dated. With the DB9 you get superior speed in a straight line, but far far far below most good sports cars. And a top speed few would ever be able to use. I'm not likely to drive any car faster than 140 MPH in NY. Great cars must have great handling. No amount of fit & finish is going to win the hearts of real drivers. RB |
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On Sep 15, 6:01 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Poor Donal doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the price... Good Lord! I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that it was that cheap. Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9? Where can you do even 165MPH? Maybe during his driving lessons? Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston. Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled. Donal's not going to get it. Ever. Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park it? Donal obviously believes a car's price is more important that it's abilities. My buddy has a modded AWD 911 that cost more than a DB9. He just bought an Evo X and will track the car and also use it for runs to the yard. He agrees that the Evo is in the same class of handling as the 911 turbo. The DB9 is a dinosaur by comparison. Come to think of it he also owns a original Elise...another car that's more rewarding to drive than a Db9. But how do you explain to a person like Donal about handling and balance? RB |
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On Sep 15, 7:00 pm, wrote:
On 15 Sep, 23:01, OzOne wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Poor Donal doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the price... Good Lord! I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that it was that cheap. Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9? Where can you do even 165MPH? We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish, but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM. If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB. Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston. Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled. We all have our dreams. Why are your's so unambitious? Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park it? Oh c'mon Oz. People *will* stare at an Evo when you park it. It is so bloody ugly that they won't be able to stop staring. Any admiring glances that it gets will be from the lower socio-econimic groups (to put it politely). Most of the "stares" that it attracts will be from people who understand that the driver couldn't afford the car that he really wanted. It makes the same statement as the Subaru Imprezza(sp?). Wow, what a horrible place you must live in! I live in NY. Nobody is impressed with cars here. You can drive just about anything most people know that folks with real class don't buy Aston Martins. They drive what suits a need, rather than any call for attention. Since Donal also equates expensive cars with ambition, he's not likely to understand that either. The fact that an Elise or Evo X are far more rewarding to drive means nothing to him. To Donal the reward is his belief that a car like the Aston will somehow make his star shine brighter in the eyes of others. In fact only fellow low-lifes like himself will be "impressed" with an expensive car. The Evo X is a specialty car. Donal should read up on what that means. While the DB9 creates exclusivity with price, the Evo X does it with real world performance and a purpose built design goal. In this regard it exceeds the poor DB9 in every way and people who know driving and cars will always give a nod of approval to the Evo X. The cost or possible income of the owner is just not relevant, unless you have no class at all. So far the two Evo X owners I know are pretty well off. Both own cars in the DB9's price range, but they still wanted the technological marvel known as the Evo X. I seriously doubt they're as deeply insecure as Donal and feel like lesser men when driving the Evo around turns at speeds only a few cars in the world could match. And the poor DB9 is among those that fall short. RB |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:35:08 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote: On Sep 15, 7:00 pm, wrote: On 15 Sep, 23:01, OzOne wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Poor Donal doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the price... Good Lord! I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that it was that cheap. Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9? Where can you do even 165MPH? We all know that it cannot compete in style, looks, fit or finish, but you were claiming that the Evo could outperform the AM. If its top speed is so low, then it couldn't possibly beat the DB. Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston. Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled. We all have our dreams. Why are your's so unambitious? Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park it? Oh c'mon Oz. People *will* stare at an Evo when you park it. It is so bloody ugly that they won't be able to stop staring. Any admiring glances that it gets will be from the lower socio-econimic groups (to put it politely). Most of the "stares" that it attracts will be from people who understand that the driver couldn't afford the car that he really wanted. It makes the same statement as the Subaru Imprezza(sp?). Wow, what a horrible place you must live in! I live in NY. Nobody is impressed with cars here. You can drive just about anything most people know that folks with real class don't buy Aston Martins. They drive what suits a need, rather than any call for attention. Since Donal also equates expensive cars with ambition, he's not likely to understand that either. The fact that an Elise or Evo X are far more rewarding to drive means nothing to him. To Donal the reward is his belief that a car like the Aston will somehow make his star shine brighter in the eyes of others. In fact only fellow low-lifes like himself will be "impressed" with an expensive car. The Evo X is a specialty car. Donal should read up on what that means. While the DB9 creates exclusivity with price, the Evo X does it with real world performance and a purpose built design goal. In this regard it exceeds the poor DB9 in every way and people who know driving and cars will always give a nod of approval to the Evo X. The cost or possible income of the owner is just not relevant, unless you have no class at all. So far the two Evo X owners I know are pretty well off. Both own cars in the DB9's price range, but they still wanted the technological marvel known as the Evo X. I seriously doubt they're as deeply insecure as Donal and feel like lesser men when driving the Evo around turns at speeds only a few cars in the world could match. And the poor DB9 is among those that fall short. RB What ever became of your boat? You used to talk about it a lot more. |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote:
wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Cheers Marty Of course he understands the "mystique"..as Donal says it's about going fast in a straight line, having people think you are 'someone' because you drive an 'Aston' and getting good parking spots at the casino. Like Bob, I like to actually enjoy driving not steering. I put the extra money into other toys and don't need the respect of those who admire my cars ability to turn a head....If I wanted that I'd paint it pink! OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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On Sep 15, 10:26 pm, Marty wrote:
wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Cheers Marty I can understand wanting to drive those cars, but you and Donal clearly have no idea why Ozzy and I want to OWN the Evo X. I owned a restored MG-TD and TF, so I appreciate cars of varied character. But the comparisons and comments from Donal and yourself are childish in the extreme. RB |
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Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Hogwash.....It stands out n an automotive crowd because of its beauty! The Evo is rare. I've seen two and most of my friends haven't even seen one. But the roads are overrun with BMWs, Porsche, Lexus, Jags, Bentleys and so on. Most have power, but not much performance in handling. Most are less rewarding to drive than a Miata. Cars like MazdaSpeed3, WRX, STI, Mitsubishi Ralliart and Evo X are designed for small segment of the market place. When you get to the high level of an Evo X you're getting handling that few cars at ANY price can match. The inexpensive Speed3 is also an amazing drive. That's what these cars are designed to do. If you're not into a rewarding drive on a twisty back road, then by all means get a luxury carr, even a hopped up one like a Aston Martin or 600 series. If Donal or Marty had a clue they would have been bringing up cars like the 911 AWD Turbo or Nissan GT-R. And before the google those cars up....I tried to buy a GT-R, but they only made 1500 for the USA for 2008 and I don't fit well in the 911 because of the legroom. Enter the Evo X RB |
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It makes the same statement as the Subaru Imprezza(sp?).
Indeed it does ...."This guy likes to drive!" Exactly right. When I see a WRX STI or Evo or even a Mazda speed 3 I know the driver is unpretentious and serious about driving. Like I said, there are plenty of status cars available for the price of a loaded Evo. RB |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:25:04 -0700, Capt. Rob wrote:
On Sep 15, 6:01 pm, OzOne wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On 14 Sep, 23:57, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Poor Donal doesn't own a better handling car, so he found one at 5 times the price... Good Lord! I knew that the Evo was cheap, but I didn't realise that it was that cheap. Is it true that the top speed is only 165 mph? If so, why do you think that it could compete, in terms of speed, with a DB9? Where can you do even 165MPH? Here - and an extra 48mph on top:- http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-h4pPYMSvkw Yes indeed it can outperform the Aston. Sort of like the all round race boat compared to the downhill sled. Donal's not going to get it. Ever. Get what? You seem to be concentrating on performance alone, because the Evo fails in every other department. Unfortunately, all the hard evidence shows that the DB9 craps all over the Evo in the performance department as well. Unambitious is not wanting people to stare at your car when you park it? Donal obviously believes a car's price is more important that it's abilities. No, Bob. I believe that sometimes you get what you pay for. If you want to buy a cheap car that rattles a lot, then by all means get yourself an Evo. But, don't go boasting about it, because nobody is going to be impressed. Regards Donal -- |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote:
wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Oh I don't know. He has stopped using the phrase "Well regarded", which normally appears in every post. Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Pure Beauty and Soul. What a georgeous car. Regards Donal -- |
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:15:34 +1000, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: Donal, you're wasting your breath, Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Cheers Marty Of course he understands the "mystique"..as Donal says it's about going fast in a straight line, having people think you are 'someone' because you drive an 'Aston' and getting good parking spots at the casino. Tsk, tsk, tsk Ozzy! Now you are trying to misquote me. It is about an awful lot more than that short list. Those were just some of the things that I thought might impress Bob. For you, I would emphasise the pleasure that you can get from simply looking at a DB9. Don't let me down by saying that you cannot appreciate that. Regards Donal -- |
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Get what? *You seem to be concentrating on performance alone, Not at all. The Evo has better seats, a better stereo, a better Nav system with a server. It has better handling and a real race history that equals pedigree missing from the DB9 above and beyond it's elitist credentials set on price alone. Unfortunately, all the hard evidence shows that the DB9 craps all over the Evo in the performance department as well. Please show me any test showing the DB9 pulling 1.04 G on a skidpad. While you're at it show us it's versatility and ability to handle anything besides dry weather! It's fast in a straight line...just like a any worked big block Chevy. No, Bob. * I believe that sometimes you get what you pay for. And sometimes you don't. Seeing how I drive fast cars and own one and you're taking lessons, it's clear you believe what you want and ignore the experts. *If you want to buy a cheap car that rattles a lot, then by all means get yourself an Evo. Hmmm. I own a less expensive Legacy GT Turbo. It has no rattles. But, don't go boasting about it, *because nobody is going to be impressed. Right, only EVERY everyone else is raving about the car, calling it a revolution. It's one of two cars in the world to have both active yaw control and active center differential and the ONLY car to employ it with S-AWD. I do admit that it's Casino parking rating is lower than a DB9, but it's a enthusiast driver's joy. The fact that it's able to outgun the DB9 in so many ways is testiment to out motivated the engineers are these days. Clearly you need a car to build on something you percieve as missing from your personality. That's rough since you don't own a DB9 or any fast car. How do you survive with such egotistical fragility? You must never go to Casinos! Hey, I kid about the stuff I buy and it's "value" which is pretty silly. But YOU actually believe it. That's a tough life to live and I do feel sorry for you. RB |
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On Sep 16, 9:26*am, Donal wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Oh I don't know. *He has stopped using the phrase "Well regarded", *which normally appears in every post. The Evo X is NOT well regarded. It's one of the most highly rated cars EVER. Reviews for it's performance are raves. So well regarded is for Toyotas. Carnet just reviewed the Evo X and concluded that "it is quite simply without equal." During their hard driving test of the Evo X, Top Gear said. "There is no car that handles like the Evo; it's quite astounding." I guess they "regarded it well! Pure Beauty and Soul. *What a georgeous car. Pretty car. Let us know when you get one! Will it be soon? What are driving now? RB |
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Donal wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Oh I don't know. He has stopped using the phrase "Well regarded", which normally appears in every post. Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Pure Beauty and Soul. What a georgeous car. I was a passenger in one a few times some years ago. Some people brag about "new car smell", being in this was more like being in a clean tack room. Hand finished burled walnut....leather.... just beautiful inside and out. I think top speed was about 95, but that was a bonus, you just wanted the ride to last forever... Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor --------------------- For a secure high performance FTP using SSL/TLS encryption upgrade to SurgeFTP ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgeftp.htm ---- |
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Those were just some of the things that I thought might impress Bob. Holy backpedal, Batman! Now poor Donal is changing his definition of class. Now he's realized how sleazy he looked with his lame casino parking requirement. Sorry, Donal. You're not escaping from that EVER. You showed your ass, so OWN it! For you, I would emphasise the pleasure that you can get from simply looking at a DB9. * Don't let me down by saying that you cannot appreciate that. So get a nice glossy poster of the DB9 and actually OWN a car that's more pleasureable to drive. And you save money and burn less gas. The Db9 is beautiful, but that's only one of many reasons to buy a car. RB |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:26:33 -0400, Marty wrote: wrote: Most people won't stare at an Aston because they won't recognise it. Donal, you're wasting your breath, Oh I don't know. He has stopped using the phrase "Well regarded", which normally appears in every post. Bob can't understand the mystique of a DB9 anymore that he could understand why you'd want to drive a '52 Bentley Mk VI. Pure Beauty and Soul. What a georgeous car. I was a passenger in one a few times some years ago. Some people brag about "new car smell", being in this was more like being in a clean tack room. Hand finished burled walnut....leather.... just beautiful inside and out. I think top speed was about 95, but that was a bonus, you just wanted the ride to last forever... Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor --------------------- For a secure high performance FTP using SSL/TLS encryption upgrade to SurgeFTP ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgeftp.htm ---- Sounds like the 1950 Hudson Hornet. Loved the Walnut. |
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