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On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
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"roger" wrote:
Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the
proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet.

Seahag

I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident.

Bull****.

Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass
off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master
would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a
mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat.

Joe


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"Seahag" wrote:
While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have
reported
it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the
boat all over the internet.


Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing?
I'm not
sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his
disregard
publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is.
And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast
Gaurd. In
the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in
this group,
since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be
disdained, at
least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical
wakes which
sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5
foot wave
from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard.

I didn't realize you reported the incident...by all means
vent away! The only thought I have is generally lawyers
prefer their clients not to discuss a pending case. Since
you had an injury have you talked to your insurance company?
Perhaps a letter to Boat US would be in order as well.

Seahag

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"Capt. JG" wrote:

I hear ya... In our case, it was about 5:30pm and they
were late for dinner... bozos... gave us and another boat
the finger when we were gesturing wildly at them... didn't
slow down, didn't move an inch.

We were on the river headed to St.Michaels when we got
seriously waked. They had the whole damn river to play in
but just had to dead cross my bow. The old Tahiti took her
time turning so I couldn't take it on the quarter. I just
had time to yell,"WAKE" when it hit. The bow buried right
to the mainmast when we came down and 2 6" firehose jets of
water blasted thru the cabin from the forward portholes. I
thought we were goners, but the bow came back up and things
eventually quit flogging around. Bill and the cat were
fine. Of course by that time the powerboat was gone so we
never got a name nor the pleasure of exchanging hand
signals.

Seahag

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"Capt. JG" wrote:

I hear ya... In our case, it was about 5:30pm and they were late for
dinner... bozos... gave us and another boat the finger when we were
gesturing wildly at them... didn't slow down, didn't move an inch.

We were on the river headed to St.Michaels when we got seriously waked.
They had the whole damn river to play in but just had to dead cross my
bow. The old Tahiti took her time turning so I couldn't take it on the
quarter. I just had time to yell,"WAKE" when it hit. The bow buried
right to the mainmast when we came down and 2 6" firehose jets of water
blasted thru the cabin from the forward portholes. I thought we were
goners, but the bow came back up and things eventually quit flogging
around. Bill and the cat were fine. Of course by that time the powerboat
was gone so we never got a name nor the pleasure of exchanging hand
signals.

Seahag



Yeah, I don't get that... it's typical that we're sailing along and some
huge cabin cruiser decides to accelerate in front of us, threading the
needle between us and a boat at anchor instead of going behind. It's not
unusual for him to actually go a greater distance that way than if he just
went behind us.


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On Aug 13, 6:55 pm, "Seahag" wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote:

"roger" wrote:

Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought
that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or
something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported
it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the
boat all over the internet.

Seahag


Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not
sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard
publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is.
And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In
the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group,
since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at
least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which
sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave
from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard.
B John Law

Next time he sees you he'll probably t-bone ya out of spite...

Which makes a good argument for letting as many people know about it as
possible. At least then, if something did happen, folks here could ask
some questions! :o)



Well, ok.. you convinced me. :-)


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On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
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"Capt. JG" wrote:
"roger" wrote:
Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the
proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the
internet.

Seahag

I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident.

Bull****.

Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass
off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master
would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a
mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat.

Joe


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Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of
their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the
people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to
have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could
be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however.

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wrote:
"Seahag" wrote:
While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported
it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the
boat all over the internet.


Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not
sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard
publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is.
And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In
the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group,
since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at
least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which
sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave
from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard.

I didn't realize you reported the incident...by all means vent away! The
only thought I have is generally lawyers prefer their clients not to
discuss a pending case. Since you had an injury have you talked to your
insurance company? Perhaps a letter to Boat US would be in order as well.

Seahag

Thanks Haggie,
A bruise is all but it could have been a lot worse.
I will see them on the water again and would be happy just to see a change
in their MO.

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On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Seahag" wrote in message

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"Capt. JG" wrote:
"roger" wrote:
Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the
proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the
internet.

Seahag

I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident.

Bull****.

Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass
off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master
would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a
mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat.

Joe

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Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of
their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the
people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to
have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could
be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however.

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We have no such thing as a Harbor Master.

I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to.
I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a
crewmember.
And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled.

These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya
river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on
someone.

Joe

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On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Seahag" wrote in message

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"Capt. JG" wrote:
"roger" wrote:
Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to
the
proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the
internet.

Seahag

I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident.

Bull****.

Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass
off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master
would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a
mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat.

Joe

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Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective
of
their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the
people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer
to
have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they
could
be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however.

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"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

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We have no such thing as a Harbor Master.

I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to.
I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a
crewmember.
And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled.

These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya
river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on
someone.

Joe




What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle
the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would
certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due
to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to
threaten, but that's not a shocker.


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On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Seahag" wrote in message

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"Capt. JG" wrote:
"roger" wrote:
Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to
the
proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the
internet.

Seahag

I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident.

Bull****.

Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass
off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master
would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a
mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat.

Joe

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Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective
of
their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the
people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer
to
have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they
could
be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however.

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"j" ganz -Hide quoted text -

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We have no such thing as a Harbor Master.

I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to.
I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a
crewmember.
And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled.

These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya
river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on
someone.

Joe

What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle
the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would
certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due
to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to
threaten, but that's not a shocker.

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I got no problem.

Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about?

Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything?
Cuz the land lord says so?

Joe