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On Aug 13, 6:55 pm, "Seahag" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote:
"roger" wrote:
Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought
that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or
something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported
it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the
boat all over the internet.

Seahag

Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not
sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard
publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is.
And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In
the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group,
since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at
least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which
sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave
from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard.
B John Law



I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think
it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even
though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said
happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word
for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your
credibility.

I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning.

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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think
it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping,
even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you
said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your
word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes
your credibility.

I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning.

By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my complaint.

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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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On Aug 13, 6:55 pm, "Seahag" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote:
"roger" wrote:
Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought
that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or
something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported
it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the
boat all over the internet.

Seahag

Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not
sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard
publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is.
And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In
the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group,
since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at
least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which
sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave
from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard.
B John Law



I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think
it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping,
even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you
said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your
word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes
your credibility.

I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning.

No... but a rant doesn't make the complainer look better. I think they
should be reported. One angry person on the newsgroup (we only have one
right?) isn't going to change anyone's opinion IMHO. :-)

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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think
it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping,
even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you
said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your
word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it
dilutes your credibility.

I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning.

By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my
complaint.




Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you can
do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities...

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www.sailnow.com

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't
think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like
griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according
to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we
only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the
company, it dilutes your credibility.

I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning.

By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my
complaint.




Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you can
do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities...

Thanks JG - I've used two long standing nom de plumes here, with only the
Coast Guard getting my real info.
I'm pretty ****ed about the whole incident, as you can see, and I intend to
push it until they agree to make a change. There were boats smaller than
mine in their wake; I saw others hanging on for dear life as they sped past.
It's not right. I don't get shaken up easily but this was real close and
really threw us around for no good reason.

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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
{snipped}

I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't
think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like
griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according
to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we
only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the
company, it dilutes your credibility.

I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning.

By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my
complaint.




Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you
can do that will likely be effective is to report them to the
authorities...

Thanks JG - I've used two long standing nom de plumes here, with only the
Coast Guard getting my real info.
I'm pretty ****ed about the whole incident, as you can see, and I intend
to push it until they agree to make a change. There were boats smaller
than mine in their wake; I saw others hanging on for dear life as they
sped past. It's not right. I don't get shaken up easily but this was real
close and really threw us around for no good reason.


I hear ya... In our case, it was about 5:30pm and they were late for
dinner... bozos... gave us and another boat the finger when we were
gesturing wildly at them... didn't slow down, didn't move an inch.

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On Aug 13, 8:06 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Scout" wrote in message

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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think
it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping,
even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you
said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your
word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it
dilutes your credibility.

I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning.

By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my
complaint.

Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you can
do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities...

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What.... to the Harbor master like you did Jon? Hardly the
authorities..call the USCG. If anyone was injured a hearing will have
to be conducted and the operator could loose his ticket.

As a boat captain, regardless of the size of your vessel, you are
responsible for your wake. That includes any damages that occur as a
result of your wake, regardless of whether you had the right of way or
the location.

Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message
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On Aug 13, 8:06 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Scout" wrote in message

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"Scout" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
{snipped}

I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't
think
it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping,
even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what
you
said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have
your
word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it
dilutes your credibility.

I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning.

By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my
complaint.

Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you
can
do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities...

--
"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What.... to the Harbor master like you did Jon? Hardly the
authorities..call the USCG. If anyone was injured a hearing will have
to be conducted and the operator could loose his ticket.

As a boat captain, regardless of the size of your vessel, you are
responsible for your wake. That includes any damages that occur as a
result of your wake, regardless of whether you had the right of way or
the location.

Joe



Joe, the harbor master controls the slips in our marina. He fields
complaints. Calling the CG after the fact probably won't do much unless
there's damage or injury.

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www.sailnow.com

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"katy" wrote in message
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On Aug 13, 6:55 pm, "Seahag" wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote:

"roger" wrote:

Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought
that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know.
Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or
something.

Yup.. you got it right.

While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported
it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the
boat all over the internet.

Seahag


Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not
sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard
publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is.
And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In
the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group,
since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at
least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which
sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave
from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard.
B John Law

Next time he sees you he'll probably t-bone ya out of spite...

Which makes a good argument for letting as many people know about it as
possible. At least then, if something did happen, folks here could ask some
questions! :o)