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Duty, Honor, Safety
To the 8/12/07 Captain of the Miss Beach Haven:
I've sailed and motored the waters between Sandy Hook and Cape May for 5 decades and I've rarely seen such an inconsiderate act as I saw on the morning of Sunday, August 12, when the Miss Beach Haven, with complete disregard for the safety of others, steamed through the very narrow channel near Goosebar Sedge, throwing so much water so closely to us that you caused an injury to my crew when she fell in the galley. With a decent Westerly breeze, we were making good way South on a beam reach, and were flowing with traffic, not tacking across the channel (i.e., I was not in your way). When I saw you bearing down on us at such a high speed, I was forced to fire up my engine, get out of the channel, and circle around to meet your enormous wake, which had I allowed it to broadside us, could have easily caused a more severe injury to my crew. I will not forget your ignorance or your lack of empathy for the small boater in a narrow channel. The captain of a ship your size is morally obligated to consider the safety of those around you, but you did not in any way show consideration for the safety of my family and crew. I must now take action, and will make it a point to watch and video tape you. I will also report this and any further safety incidents to the U.S. Coastguard. You leave a trail of enemies and damage in the wake of your carelessness, and I will spread the word of your incompetence far and wide around LBI and Southern New Jersey. Whoever captained Miss Beach Haven that day is a disgrace to his title and his license. http://www.missbeachhaven.com/ B.J. Law Captain, Sailor, and not one who soon forgets those who would hurt or jeopardize the safety of others. |
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On Aug 13, 4:03 am, wrote:
To the 8/12/07 Captain of the Miss Beach Haven: I've sailed and motored the waters between Sandy Hook and Cape May for 5 decades and I've rarely seen such an inconsiderate act as I saw on the morning of Sunday, August 12, when the Miss Beach Haven, with complete disregard for the safety of others, steamed through the very narrow channel near Goosebar Sedge, throwing so much water so closely to us that you caused an injury to my crew when she fell in the galley. With a decent Westerly breeze, we were making good way South on a beam reach, and were flowing with traffic, not tacking across the channel (i.e., I was not in your way). When I saw you bearing down on us at such a high speed, I was forced to fire up my engine, get out of the channel, and circle around to meet your enormous wake, which had I allowed it to broadside us, could have easily caused a more severe injury to my crew. I will not forget your ignorance or your lack of empathy for the small boater in a narrow channel. The captain of a ship your size is morally obligated to consider the safety of those around you, but you did not in any way show consideration for the safety of my family and crew. I must now take action, and will make it a point to watch and video tape you. I will also report this and any further safety incidents to the U.S. Coastguard. You leave a trail of enemies and damage in the wake of your carelessness, and I will spread the word of your incompetence far and wide around LBI and Southern New Jersey. Whoever captained Miss Beach Haven that day is a disgrace to his title and his license.http://www.missbeachhaven.com/ B.J. Law Captain, Sailor, and not one who soon forgets those who would hurt or jeopardize the safety of others. B.J. Law; Well done. I'd send a copy to your local newspapers as well. To bad you did not have a camera to take picks. Find where he advertises and run an ad telling what he did. If the boat is owned and operated by the same person someone really mad might go out on his charter and see just how many things he could screw up. He might start by flushing a whole roll of toilet paper in the head clogging that up. Vomit in the passangers lounge, Hook the bait boy. Bust out a window in the wheel house with a heavy lead fishing weight while casting, deploy the liferaft, epirb, and see if you can drop a dock line so it fouls in the props, cut loose his fenders, use a sharp knife on anything like seats cushions ect, find the thermostst and set it on full heat then remove it's dial. No excuse for some stupid throttle jockey to whip a wake on anyone. No matter where you are you are responsiable for your wake. Joe |
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oups.com... To the 8/12/07 Captain of the Miss Beach Haven: I've sailed and motored the waters between Sandy Hook and Cape May for 5 decades and I've rarely seen such an inconsiderate act as I saw on the morning of Sunday, August 12, when the Miss Beach Haven, with complete disregard for the safety of others, steamed through the very narrow channel near Goosebar Sedge, throwing so much water so closely to us that you caused an injury to my crew when she fell in the galley. With a decent Westerly breeze, we were making good way South on a beam reach, and were flowing with traffic, not tacking across the channel (i.e., I was not in your way). When I saw you bearing down on us at such a high speed, I was forced to fire up my engine, get out of the channel, and circle around to meet your enormous wake, which had I allowed it to broadside us, could have easily caused a more severe injury to my crew. I will not forget your ignorance or your lack of empathy for the small boater in a narrow channel. The captain of a ship your size is morally obligated to consider the safety of those around you, but you did not in any way show consideration for the safety of my family and crew. I must now take action, and will make it a point to watch and video tape you. I will also report this and any further safety incidents to the U.S. Coastguard. You leave a trail of enemies and damage in the wake of your carelessness, and I will spread the word of your incompetence far and wide around LBI and Southern New Jersey. Whoever captained Miss Beach Haven that day is a disgrace to his title and his license. http://www.missbeachhaven.com/ B.J. Law Captain, Sailor, and not one who soon forgets those who would hurt or jeopardize the safety of others. We had a somewhat similar incident (no engine available however) a year or so ago in the Richardson Bay channel with one of the local fishing charter boats.. big wake, steaming very close, not following the rules of the road. I reported the incident to the harbor master. He gave them a warning with one-more-report-and-you're-out language. I doubt this is MBH's first time. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you
could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. |
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"roger" wrote in message
oups.com... Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag |
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On Aug 13, 6:55 pm, "Seahag" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is. And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group, since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard. B John Law |
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:23:00 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap: We had a somewhat similar incident (no engine available however) a year or so ago in the Richardson Gay channel with one of the local fishing charter boats.. big wake, steaming very close, not following the rules of the road. I reported the incident to the harbor master. How very gay of you. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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"Seahag" wrote in message
news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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oups.com... On Aug 13, 6:55 pm, "Seahag" wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is. And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group, since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard. B John Law I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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