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Duty, Honor, Safety
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
... wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 13, 6:55 pm, "Seahag" wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is. And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group, since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard. B John Law I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning. |
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"Scout" wrote in message
. .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message {snipped} I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning. By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my complaint. |
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"Scout" wrote in message
. .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 13, 6:55 pm, "Seahag" wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is. And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group, since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard. B John Law I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning. No... but a rant doesn't make the complainer look better. I think they should be reported. One angry person on the newsgroup (we only have one right?) isn't going to change anyone's opinion IMHO. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Scout" wrote in message
... "Scout" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message {snipped} I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning. By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my complaint. Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you can do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
... "Scout" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message {snipped} I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning. By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my complaint. Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you can do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities... Thanks JG - I've used two long standing nom de plumes here, with only the Coast Guard getting my real info. I'm pretty ****ed about the whole incident, as you can see, and I intend to push it until they agree to make a change. There were boats smaller than mine in their wake; I saw others hanging on for dear life as they sped past. It's not right. I don't get shaken up easily but this was real close and really threw us around for no good reason. |
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"Scout" wrote in message
. .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message {snipped} I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning. By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my complaint. Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you can do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities... Thanks JG - I've used two long standing nom de plumes here, with only the Coast Guard getting my real info. I'm pretty ****ed about the whole incident, as you can see, and I intend to push it until they agree to make a change. There were boats smaller than mine in their wake; I saw others hanging on for dear life as they sped past. It's not right. I don't get shaken up easily but this was real close and really threw us around for no good reason. I hear ya... In our case, it was about 5:30pm and they were late for dinner... bozos... gave us and another boat the finger when we were gesturing wildly at them... didn't slow down, didn't move an inch. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Duty, Honor, Safety
On Aug 13, 8:06 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Scout" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message {snipped} I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning. By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my complaint. Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you can do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities... -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What.... to the Harbor master like you did Jon? Hardly the authorities..call the USCG. If anyone was injured a hearing will have to be conducted and the operator could loose his ticket. As a boat captain, regardless of the size of your vessel, you are responsible for your wake. That includes any damages that occur as a result of your wake, regardless of whether you had the right of way or the location. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com... On Aug 13, 8:06 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Scout" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message {snipped} I think it makes you look less professional, thus suspect. I don't think it really adds any value to the complaint and it sounds like griping, even though you're right about, well, being right, according to what you said happened. Of course, without us all being there, we only have your word for it, but since you're publically slamming the company, it dilutes your credibility. I should keep it a secret? I don't get that reasoning. By the way JG, the company has not even bothered to respond to my complaint. Ah, well, since it's you... :-) I doubt they would. The only thing you can do that will likely be effective is to report them to the authorities... -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What.... to the Harbor master like you did Jon? Hardly the authorities..call the USCG. If anyone was injured a hearing will have to be conducted and the operator could loose his ticket. As a boat captain, regardless of the size of your vessel, you are responsible for your wake. That includes any damages that occur as a result of your wake, regardless of whether you had the right of way or the location. Joe Joe, the harbor master controls the slips in our marina. He fields complaints. Calling the CG after the fact probably won't do much unless there's damage or injury. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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