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Duty, Honor, Safety
On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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wrote: "Seahag" wrote: While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is. And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group, since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard. I didn't realize you reported the incident...by all means vent away! The only thought I have is generally lawyers prefer their clients not to discuss a pending case. Since you had an injury have you talked to your insurance company? Perhaps a letter to Boat US would be in order as well. Seahag |
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"Capt. JG" wrote: I hear ya... In our case, it was about 5:30pm and they were late for dinner... bozos... gave us and another boat the finger when we were gesturing wildly at them... didn't slow down, didn't move an inch. We were on the river headed to St.Michaels when we got seriously waked. They had the whole damn river to play in but just had to dead cross my bow. The old Tahiti took her time turning so I couldn't take it on the quarter. I just had time to yell,"WAKE" when it hit. The bow buried right to the mainmast when we came down and 2 6" firehose jets of water blasted thru the cabin from the forward portholes. I thought we were goners, but the bow came back up and things eventually quit flogging around. Bill and the cat were fine. Of course by that time the powerboat was gone so we never got a name nor the pleasure of exchanging hand signals. Seahag |
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"Seahag" wrote in message
news:aIiwi.1$7f.0@trndny09... "Capt. JG" wrote: I hear ya... In our case, it was about 5:30pm and they were late for dinner... bozos... gave us and another boat the finger when we were gesturing wildly at them... didn't slow down, didn't move an inch. We were on the river headed to St.Michaels when we got seriously waked. They had the whole damn river to play in but just had to dead cross my bow. The old Tahiti took her time turning so I couldn't take it on the quarter. I just had time to yell,"WAKE" when it hit. The bow buried right to the mainmast when we came down and 2 6" firehose jets of water blasted thru the cabin from the forward portholes. I thought we were goners, but the bow came back up and things eventually quit flogging around. Bill and the cat were fine. Of course by that time the powerboat was gone so we never got a name nor the pleasure of exchanging hand signals. Seahag Yeah, I don't get that... it's typical that we're sailing along and some huge cabin cruiser decides to accelerate in front of us, threading the needle between us and a boat at anchor instead of going behind. It's not unusual for him to actually go a greater distance that way than if he just went behind us. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Seahag" wrote in message
news:Xniwi.4445$2C4.472@trndny07... wrote: "Seahag" wrote: While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Thanks Seahag, but why not do both, as I am in fact doing? I'm not sure if you are saying it's wrong of me to mention his disregard publicly, but that is exactly what my intent was, and is. And as I said in the OP, I am reporting this to the Coast Gaurd. In the meantime, it seems like fair game for discussion in this group, since it sure seamed like a sailboat was something to be disdained, at least to this captain. I have to put up with the typical wakes which sometimes play havoc with the balance of my rig, but a 5 foot wave from 30 feet away needs somebody to stand up and be heard. I didn't realize you reported the incident...by all means vent away! The only thought I have is generally lawyers prefer their clients not to discuss a pending case. Since you had an injury have you talked to your insurance company? Perhaps a letter to Boat US would be in order as well. Seahag Thanks Haggie, A bruise is all but it could have been a lot worse. I will see them on the water again and would be happy just to see a change in their MO. |
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On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe |
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