On Jun 7, 11:25 am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Face it Rob, the movie, just like "through dead eyes" would have been
much better had the producer hired a decent director.

No, no. Let's just say that you believe Michael Curtiz is a poor
director and leave it at that. Truly!

He could have done a much better job with the Sea Wolf.
But for the average lubber like you, I guess it will be seen as a
realistic portrayal of a ship and crew at sea.. No wonder you're
afraid to sail offshore.

His artistic touch was a bit off on this one...I'm sure you can
relate.

Joe


RB
35s5
NY

He could have done a much better job with the Sea Wolf.
But for the average lubber like you, I guess it will be seen as a
realistic portrayal of a ship and crew at sea..



Yeah, you nailed it, Joe. You clearly understand the book and movie
since you were hoping for a reaslitic portrayal of a ship at sea and
didn't find one. Good work. We're all hoping you review John Huston's
Moby Dick next or as you'd title it, "Monster Whale vs. the Whalers."



RB
35s5
NY

On Jun 7, 7:02 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
He could have done a much better job with the Sea Wolf.
But for the average lubber like you, I guess it will be seen as a
realistic portrayal of a ship and crew at sea..

Yeah, you nailed it, Joe. You clearly understand the book and movie
since you were hoping for a reaslitic portrayal of a ship at sea and
didn't find one. Good work. We're all hoping you review John Huston's
Moby Dick next or as you'd title it, "Monster Whale vs. the Whalers."

RB
35s5
NY

Who's we're all? Are you speaking for your puppets or what?
What I was looking for is a well told story with background and common
sence to match.

What you call artistic view is about the same thing they did with the
Perfect Storm. In trying to create an artistic mood they made the crew
and Skipper of the Andrea Dora look like a boat load of retards....but
the lubbers ate it up.

I guess if you are watching an artist versions of mariners it would
be better if you are an baffon lubber and not have a clue so you can
enjoy it and not be bothered by the glaring stupity...huh?

Joe

Who's we're all? Are you speaking for your puppets or what?

Joe, you believe that I have puppets here??? Okay.


What I was looking for is a well told story with background and
common
sence to match.


Curtiz work often reflected a stylistic approach that required some
imagination and cinematic education from the viewer.


What you call artistic view is about the same thing they did with
the
Perfect Storm. In trying to create an artistic mood they made the
crew
and Skipper of the Andrea Dora look like a boat load of
retards....but
the lubbers ate it up.


Who ate it up? The Perfect Storm was a dissapointment both
economically and critically. The Sea Wolf was popular on both fronts.


I guess if you are watching an artist versions of mariners it
would
be better if you are an baffon lubber and not have a clue so you can
enjoy it and not be bothered by the glaring stupity...huh?


Like I said, you never read the book, You have no idea how stupid you
sound. The Ghost is depicted in the movie much as it was in the book.
Curtiz pushed it further, but even in the book, "Unlike other ships,
the decks of the Ghost lay barren and lonely; her crew hidden away in
fear."
So now we all know that you're not only too stupid to understand a
good movie, but also ignorant of it's famous source.
Well done, Joe!


RB
35s5
NY

On Jun 7, 7:36 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Who's we're all? Are you speaking for your puppets or what?

Joe, you believe that I have puppets here??? Okay.

What I was looking for is a well told story with background and
common
sence to match.

Curtiz work often reflected a stylistic approach that required some
imagination and cinematic education from the viewer.

What you call artistic view is about the same thing they did with
the
Perfect Storm. In trying to create an artistic mood they made the
crew
and Skipper of the Andrea Dora look like a boat load of
retards....but
the lubbers ate it up.

Who ate it up? The Perfect Storm was a dissapointment both
economically and critically. The Sea Wolf was popular on both fronts.

I guess if you are watching an artist versions of mariners it
would
be better if you are an baffon lubber and not have a clue so you can
enjoy it and not be bothered by the glaring stupity...huh?

Like I said, you never read the book, You have no idea how stupid you
sound. The Ghost is depicted in the movie much as it was in the book.
Curtiz pushed it further, but even in the book, "Unlike other ships,
the decks of the Ghost lay barren and lonely; her crew hidden away in
fear."
So now we all know that you're not only too stupid to understand a
good movie, but also ignorant of it's famous source.
Well done, Joe!

RB
35s5
NY

Good bubbles...name one 100+ft 3 masted clipper ship that can sail
with just one man at the wheel.. If I need my imigination to streach
that far then I might as well be watching a movie about a Captain
sailing a ship through the desert with sawsquach at the wheel.

The point you seem to miss is that Curtiz screwed the pooch with the
prop and all aspects of seamanship. Again I understand just how easy
it is for you to overlook such glaring errors.

Joe

Good bubbles...name one 100+ft 3 masted clipper ship that can sail
with just one man at the wheel..



Ghost.
BTW, the shark shown attacking Cooky was too small to take his leg
off. And quite soon afterwards he's shown just fine with the leg tied
off at the stump. Such a traumatic amputation would not be so simple
to treat. He'd likely have died or at least required a long time to
recover.
But you're worried about who's at the wheel!!!
Any scenes in Captain's Coragious with one guy at the wheel/tiller?
How about Jason and and the Argonauts?



RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Joe...you never answered about all the sailing you did this week.
I'm running a sea trial on a O'Day 35 tomorrow, so that'll be the 4th
boat I sailed this week and of course I'm sailing Heart of Gold all
weekend.
When was the last time you hoisted the sails on your houseboat?


RB
35s5
NY

On Jun 7, 8:54 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Good bubbles...name one 100+ft 3 masted clipper ship that can sail
with just one man at the wheel..

Ghost.
BTW, the shark shown attacking Cooky was too small to take his leg
off.

That depends, if you judge the size by the fake dorsal fin breaking
the surface then it looks big enough, if you take the two second shot
of a real shark then you are correct

And quite soon afterwards he's shown just fine with the leg tied
off at the stump. Such a traumatic amputation would not be so simple
to treat. He'd likely have died or at least required a long time to
recover.

Yeah, and the Doc's blood tranfusion started by cookie's knife wound
was kinda funny, unless she was going to drink the blood.

But you're worried about who's at the wheel!!!

No... I'm wondering who's tending the sails...no-one.....ever.

Any scenes in Captain's Coragious with one guy at the wheel/tiller?
Yes and two at times, and a working crew, since they used real ships
Curtiz's Artsey fartsey version would not work.

How about Jason and and the Argonauts?


Now that's a show you can expect to have to use your imagination.
The Sea Wolf was not, and suffered from it.

Joe

RB
35s5
NY

since they used real ships
Curtiz's Artsey fartsey version would not work.


So far it only suffered for you. The Sea Wolf is well regarded, well
reviewed at the time and remains the best adaptation of the book to
this day. The reason for this is the fine cast and moody direction. No
one as ever commented in any review on the lack of reality for sailing
scenes. That's because it's not important to the plot. Curtiz'
portrait of the Ghost however unrealistic was quite successful for
movie fans.


RB
35s5
NY

On Jun 7, 9:08 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Hey, Joe...you never answered about all the sailing you did this week.
I'm running a sea trial on a O'Day 35 tomorrow, so that'll be the 4th
boat I sailed this week and of course I'm sailing Heart of Gold all
weekend.
When was the last time you hoisted the sails on your houseboat?

RB
35s5
NY

I do not have a houseboat. April was the last time I took RedCloud
sailing, but sail Tomahawk..ie T/T RedCloud almost every day. I don't
blame you for looking for other boats to sail. If I had a boat with
big lambrogini type gull wing windows I'd be embarrased too. Hope you
got a ride on a descent boat

You never answered my questions.

1. Did you name Ghost after this flicks boat?
2. Do you see yourself as the Wolf Larson type when you call yourself
Captain.?
3. When are you going to scrub off the soot on the pressed wood
covered fireplace chimmney you have on your camp house?
4. When are you going to buy a descent car?
5. When is that book ever going to get published?

Joe