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Which is now much more tightly regulated, apparently. No so with guns.

Do you honestly believe that guns are not tightly regulated? Do you
really think that they are just handing them out for a few bucks at
the local store with no checks or anything? They are very regulated
but the system isn't perfect. We don't need to add more regulations
to try and enforce. We need to enforce the ones we already have. We
need to make the system we have work the way it is intended not add
more crap to the pile and hope that works better. Our gov't is not
really capable of doing the things it says it is doing, stop thinking
that adding more stuff will make it better.



Clearly not tightly enough. When was the last time you went to a gun show?
Or, better yet, go to one in Nevada.

Hate to tell you, but the current gov't until just recently has been run by
rightwing nuts, who are more interested in saving the "life" of a fetus that
may or may not be viable than they are in protecting it's living citizens.

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Bill wrote:

Do you honestly think that there is no relationship between the
invention of a gun and mass killings?


No. A gun is a tool. I think there is a relationship between the
way our society treats people and mass killings. I think that
treating people like they are supposed to be taken care of by the
gov't instead of holding them responsible for anything really warps
peoples minds into thinking they are trapped and then they loose it.
Some people go on stress leave and a few go out and kill people. More
laws is not going to change that.


Sure thing Bill. - And if laws don't do any good (since criminals are
going to ignore them anyway), maybe we ought to eliminate all those laws
against rape, murder, assault, deceptive trade practices, etc., etc. -
That's were your argument logically takes us.

Bill, you need to put away all that NRA propaganda for a few days and
listen to what OzOne, Capt., and Jonathan are trying to tell you. (Am I
right? - You ARE posting opinions based on what you have been reading in
NRA publications. - Right?)

Jim

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Maxprop wrote:
OzOne wrote in message
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On 17 Apr 2007 12:24:24 -0700, Bill
scribbled thusly:


Before proper gun control is instituted.....or are you really that
afraid of everything?

Yes lets blame the gun. it's the guns fault those people are dead,
not the person who knowingly killed them.


Guns don't kill people, people do? How many people do you think he would
have killed if he tried to use two knives, instead of two guns? Or two
clubs, or two brass knuckles? Or two pairs of scissors? Staple guns?
Machetes?

Jim

Learn to appropriate correctly, you twit. That's not my statement.

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 18 Apr 2007 10:33:10 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

Halliburton

Ah, and Ganz chants his magic mantra and all-purpose reply again.

So, you think it's ok to rip off the American taxpayer. Got it.

Hey Dave, I believe he's got something there. I'm going to use it, too.

Halliburton!

Max

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And society and the laws we have are inadequate. But, that doesn't matter
right? The more guns the better, according to you.

I never said that. Ir eally don't think you are paying attention at
all. The laws are not inadequate the enforcement and of the laws has
some holes in it but regardless of what we do people will always find
a way to do horrible things if they want to. All the laws in the
world would not have stopped this from happening.

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And society and the laws we have are inadequate. But, that doesn't matter
right? The more guns the better, according to you.

I never said that. Ir eally don't think you are paying attention at
all. The laws are not inadequate the enforcement and of the laws has
some holes in it but regardless of what we do people will always find
a way to do horrible things if they want to. All the laws in the
world would not have stopped this from happening.



And, we might as well make it as easy as possible for them, so no need for
gun laws. Got it.

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Sure thing Bill. - And if laws don't do any good (since criminals are
going to ignore them anyway), maybe we ought to eliminate all those laws
against rape, murder, assault, deceptive trade practices, etc., etc. -
That's were your argument logically takes us.

I never said that laws do no good and we shoudl get rid of them.
Where are getting this from? I said more laws are not going to help
this situation. Properly enforcing the ones we have will help and
trying to help people before hey go nuts instead of turning the other
way will help. Many people knew this kid was crazy but did nothing to
help.

Bill, you need to put away all that NRA propaganda for a few days and
listen to what OzOne, Capt., and Jonathan are trying to tell you. (Am I
right? - You ARE posting opinions based on what you have been reading in
NRA publications. - Right?)

No I don't read NRA publications. They are too extreme for me. I
watch the news, talk to people, look at statistics and talk to a lot
of criminal experts like my Dad who is a retired police officer,
criminal justice instructor, police academy D.I. and Police
consultant. There is also a really good freind of mine who is a
lawyer and gun owner that studied gun laws at Harvard law school,
among many other things and shares my opinion on the matter. I don't
get my opinions from liberal media but from experts.

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On Apr 19, 10:24 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message

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And society and the laws we have are inadequate. But, that doesn't matter
right? The more guns the better, according to you.

I never said that. Ir eally don't think you are paying attention at
all. The laws are not inadequate the enforcement and of the laws has
some holes in it but regardless of what we do people will always find
a way to do horrible things if they want to. All the laws in the
world would not have stopped this from happening.

And, we might as well make it as easy as possible for them, so no need for
gun laws. Got it.

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Are you out of your mind or do you just argue based antirely off what
you think you want the other person to say? I never said that you
did. I never said no laws at all. You keep livin your own personal
fantasy about what you think I said to you I don't need to have this
discussion with someone that can't read or think.

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"Bill" wrote in message
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On Apr 19, 10:24 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message

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And society and the laws we have are inadequate. But, that doesn't
matter
right? The more guns the better, according to you.

I never said that. Ir eally don't think you are paying attention at
all. The laws are not inadequate the enforcement and of the laws has
some holes in it but regardless of what we do people will always find
a way to do horrible things if they want to. All the laws in the
world would not have stopped this from happening.

And, we might as well make it as easy as possible for them, so no need
for
gun laws. Got it.

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Are you out of your mind or do you just argue based antirely off what
you think you want the other person to say? I never said that you
did. I never said no laws at all. You keep livin your own personal
fantasy about what you think I said to you I don't need to have this
discussion with someone that can't read or think.



Bill, you're continually claiming that I said I'm in favor of banning guns.
Please feel free to post that comment.


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"Bill" wrote in message
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Sure thing Bill. - And if laws don't do any good (since criminals are
going to ignore them anyway), maybe we ought to eliminate all those laws
against rape, murder, assault, deceptive trade practices, etc., etc. -
That's were your argument logically takes us.

I never said that laws do no good and we shoudl get rid of them.
Where are getting this from? I said more laws are not going to help
this situation. Properly enforcing the ones we have will help and
trying to help people before hey go nuts instead of turning the other
way will help. Many people knew this kid was crazy but did nothing to
help.

Bill, you need to put away all that NRA propaganda for a few days and
listen to what OzOne, Capt., and Jonathan are trying to tell you. (Am I
right? - You ARE posting opinions based on what you have been reading in
NRA publications. - Right?)

No I don't read NRA publications. They are too extreme for me. I
watch the news, talk to people, look at statistics and talk to a lot
of criminal experts like my Dad who is a retired police officer,
criminal justice instructor, police academy D.I. and Police
consultant. There is also a really good freind of mine who is a
lawyer and gun owner that studied gun laws at Harvard law school,
among many other things and shares my opinion on the matter. I don't
get my opinions from liberal media but from experts.



There are no experts interviewed by the liberal media... ok, now we're
clear.

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