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katy April 24th 07 03:04 AM

How many more?
 
PDW wrote:
Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...

PDW wrote:

Once you get all this done just what the heck are you


going to make with

it all?


Guns, of course.



BT, DT. Cannons if you please. You can make guns on mini-mills & lathes, but
cannons require *real* machinery.

PDW


Where you going to aim them when they're done? New Zealand?

PDW April 24th 07 03:57 AM

How many more?
 
katy wrote:
PDW wrote:
Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...

PDW wrote:

Once you get all this done just what the heck are you

going to make with

it all?

Guns, of course.



BT, DT. Cannons if you please. You can make guns on mini-mills & lathes,

but
cannons require *real* machinery.

PDW


Where you going to aim them when they're done? New Zealand?


PWC.

PDW

Maxprop April 25th 07 02:13 AM

How many more?
 

"PDW" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...
PDW wrote:


Once you get all this done just what the heck are you

going to make with
it all?


Guns, of course.


BT, DT. Cannons if you please. You can make guns on mini-mills & lathes,
but
cannons require *real* machinery.

PDW


Hmmmm. You've piqued my interest, Pete. I have a 10ga. Winchester black
powder cannon. What are you building? What I'm looking for are specifics:
bore, appearance, replication, material, etc. Are you going to be selling
them commercially?

Max



PDW April 26th 07 12:18 AM

How many more?
 
Maxprop wrote:

"PDW" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...
PDW wrote:


Once you get all this done just what the heck are you
going to make with
it all?

Guns, of course.


BT, DT. Cannons if you please. You can make guns on mini-mills & lathes,
but
cannons require *real* machinery.

PDW


Hmmmm. You've piqued my interest, Pete. I have a 10ga. Winchester black
powder cannon. What are you building? What I'm looking for are specifics:
bore, appearance, replication, material, etc. Are you going to be selling
them commercially?


Half scale moddels of a 1806 British 6 pounder naval cannon and a half scale
model of an 1812 Napoleon field gun, widely used by both sides in your Civil
War IIRC. Cast iron construction (I had a friend with a foundry). The castings
are lying about the place seasoning - did them a long time ago. I'm going to
bore them out and sleeve them with Sched 80 s/steel tube, probably at 57mm
bore for golf balls. When I get the time that is.

And yes, I do have a lathe big enough to bore out one of these toys.

No, they're not for sale, never will be. Just big garden ornaments tho I might
fit one of the naval guns to my schooner as a stern chaser. Friend of mine has
a dozen I think on the 'DUYFKEN'. He has rail mounted swivel guns too. I still
have the pattern for the Napoleon gun and my friend still has the pattern for
the naval gun so we could cast more, but I have no plans to do so.

PDW

Martin Baxter April 26th 07 01:00 PM

How many more?
 
PDW wrote:


No, they're not for sale, never will be. Just big garden ornaments tho I might
fit one of the naval guns to my schooner as a stern chaser. Friend of mine has
a dozen I think on the 'DUYFKEN'. He has rail mounted swivel guns too.



Interesting friend Peter: http://www.duyfken.com/


Thanks

Martin

PDW April 27th 07 11:57 AM

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Martin Baxter wrote:
PDW wrote:


No, they're not for sale, never will be. Just big garden ornaments tho I

might
fit one of the naval guns to my schooner as a stern chaser. Friend of mine

has
a dozen I think on the 'DUYFKEN'. He has rail mounted swivel guns too.



Interesting friend Peter: http://www.duyfken.com/


Interesting replica too. My shipmate has skippered her many times, he likes
square riggers and their cousins. Sails on an icebreaker for one reason only -
money.

PDW

JimC April 30th 07 12:46 AM

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Bill,

You need to read Capt JG's comments, above, carefully. Obviously, lots
of things could be used to kill people (a typical NRA argument, of
course) but guns are by far the most effective and most used medium.
Accordingly, they should be regulated more closely. The use of guns
should be regulated at least as sensibly as the use of an automobile.

Jim




Bill wrote:
Or fertilizer and gasoline. 168 Timothy McVeigh.


And how many people were killed in the US by the use of fertilizer or
gasoline last year? And, what percentage of murders in the last ten
years involved the use of fertilizer or gasoline?

Jim



You're missing the point. It's not that fertilizer and gasoline
should be banned it is simply that people that wasnt to kill other
people will always find a way. If they want to kill a lot of people
they don't need a gun. Several people in this thread have tried to
use the VT shootings as the biggest example for why guns should be
either banned or more heavily restriced, because a gun allows you kill
more people than a knife or club, but the McVeigh example shows that
it doesn't take a gun to kill a lot of people, in fact without a gun
and just some basic ingredients you can kill many more than with a
gun. Had McVeigh run out and tried to shoot people he may have gotten
a pretty high number but not 168. I'm not saying that he should have
used a gun because it would have been better for the people but just
illustrating the point that people are dangerous and inventive.


katy April 30th 07 01:14 AM

How many more?
 
JimC wrote:
Bill,

You need to read Capt JG's comments, above, carefully. Obviously, lots
of things could be used to kill people (a typical NRA argument, of
course) but guns are by far the most effective and most used medium.
Accordingly, they should be regulated more closely. The use of guns
should be regulated at least as sensibly as the use of an automobile.

Jim




Bill wrote:

Or fertilizer and gasoline. 168 Timothy McVeigh.


And how many people were killed in the US by the use of fertilizer or
gasoline last year? And, what percentage of murders in the last ten
years involved the use of fertilizer or gasoline?

Jim



snort now that's a laugh....

Scotty April 30th 07 04:33 AM

How many more?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
JimC wrote:
Bill,

You need to read Capt JG's comments, above, carefully.

Obviously, lots
of things could be used to kill people (a typical NRA

argument, of
course) but guns are by far the most effective and most

used medium.
Accordingly, they should be regulated more closely. The

use of guns
should be regulated at least as sensibly as the use of

an automobile.
Jim



snort now that's a laugh....


Now Katy, just think of the millions of lives that have been
saved by mandatory registration of automobiles.

Scotty



jlrogers April 30th 07 01:06 PM

How many more?
 

And how many people were killed in the US by the use of fertilizer or
gasoline last year? And, what percentage of murders in the last ten
years involved the use of fertilizer or gasoline?

Jim


A bunch. Didn't read about the gangs setting "homeless" on fire? Didn't
read about arsons that killed 17? ETC.




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