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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

JimC wrote:

Bill,

You need to read Capt JG's comments, above, carefully.

Obviously, lots

of things could be used to kill people (a typical NRA

argument, of

course) but guns are by far the most effective and most

used medium.

Accordingly, they should be regulated more closely. The

use of guns

should be regulated at least as sensibly as the use of

an automobile.

Jim


snort now that's a laugh....


Now Katy, just think of the millions of lives that have been
saved by mandatory registration of automobiles.

Scotty


that's what I was thinking when I posted that...

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* Scotty wrote, On 4/29/2007 11:33 PM:
"katy" wrote in message
...
snort now that's a laugh....

Now Katy, just think of the millions of lives that have been
saved by mandatory registration of automobiles.

We don't need more automobile-control laws. We have plenty of
automobile-control laws. We need to enforce the automobile-control
laws we have.

(20% of all fatal accidents involve one driver without a valid license.)

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Jeff wrote:
* Scotty wrote, On 4/29/2007 11:33 PM:

"katy" wrote in message
...

snort now that's a laugh....


Now Katy, just think of the millions of lives that have been
saved by mandatory registration of automobiles.


We don't need more automobile-control laws. We have plenty of
automobile-control laws. We need to enforce the automobile-control laws
we have.

(20% of all fatal accidents involve one driver without a valid license.)


I'm still laughing....

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The use of guns
should be regulated at least as sensibly as the use of an automobile.

Jim

Clearly you don't live in California where everyday a whole bunch of
people get into car accidents and very few get shot. Maybe you live
in one of those states where everyone runs around shooting each other
but is very considerate when it comes to driving. Yes clearly we need
to make gun regulations more like car registration because everyone
with a car is really concerned with safety and commom sense. Where as
everyone I know actually self regulates their guns more than what is
required by law because they actually do use common sense. Please
show any evidence at all that shows that more gun regulations equals
less violent crime. All of the places that have done it have shown an
increase in violent crime not to mention that historically speaking,
getting rid of guns is one of the first things that massively
oppresive governments do to control the people. I don't want to be
one of those countries but clearly you do. Giving up a lot of
freedoms for a little sense of security is not worth it to me.

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In article .com,
Bill wrote:
The use of guns
should be regulated at least as sensibly as the use of an automobile.

Jim

Clearly you don't live in California where everyday a whole bunch of
people get into car accidents and very few get shot. Maybe you live
in one of those states where everyone runs around shooting each other
but is very considerate when it comes to driving. Yes clearly we need
to make gun regulations more like car registration because everyone
with a car is really concerned with safety and commom sense. Where as
everyone I know actually self regulates their guns more than what is
required by law because they actually do use common sense. Please
show any evidence at all that shows that more gun regulations equals
less violent crime. All of the places that have done it have shown an
increase in violent crime not to mention that historically speaking,
getting rid of guns is one of the first things that massively
oppresive governments do to control the people. I don't want to be
one of those countries but clearly you do. Giving up a lot of
freedoms for a little sense of security is not worth it to me.

Fear works wonders... even better than getting guns out the hands of
regular citizens. Unfortunately, the right-wing is very good at the
fear-based thing.




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Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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I suggest you get you information from actual research rather than the
NRA and its affiliates.


Oz I have already stated that I don't get my information from the NRA
but from legal proffesionals like Lawyers, Criminal Justice teachers
and police officers. This stuff is all fact. Every place that has
banned guns has seen an increase in violent crimes as well as other
crimes. It is a fact that one of the things that Hitler, Stalin and
Mousilini did, that the people thought was great at first, was to ban
all private ownership of guns. They said everyone will be safer and
the people cheered them on. Look what happened next. I am not saying
that this will happen to the U.S. or Australia but the people are not
doing themselves any favors by trying to be socialists.

I heard on the radio this morning that 20/20 is doing a story this
week about gun control and its effectiveness. You should watch it.
Apparently they had a team of different scientists do research on
historical efficacy of gun control and the social impact. The
reporter on the radio this mornig said that the conclusion was that
gun control does not help to stop crimes at all and has shown evidence
that it helps to increase crime.

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Fear works wonders... even better than getting guns out the hands of
regular citizens. Unfortunately, the right-wing is very good at the
fear-based thing.

My argument is not about fear. I am not saying that I need a gun but
rather I need my rights to not be infringed, gun ownership being one
of them. If you want to talk about fear how about the fear of guns
that is so deeply ingrained into the leftist philosophy that people
feel they need to regulate a gun instead of being concerned for the
people killed. Gun control is in response to people being afraid of
other citizens owning guns. Thats a huge irrational fear if you ask
me. People do break into homes, murder and rape others. Some of
these may be prevented by private gun ownership but none of them will
be stopped by gun control laws. You are so afraid of people owning
guns that you want to take away their ability to protect themselves
and thier right to own something that isn't hurting anyone.

You are blinded by your fear and willing to give up everything in that
condition because of it.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In
Fear works wonders... even better than getting guns out
the hands of
regular citizens.

An irrational fear of an inanimate object ( gun) is
unhealthy.

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In article . com,
Bill wrote:
Fear works wonders... even better than getting guns out the hands of
regular citizens. Unfortunately, the right-wing is very good at the
fear-based thing.

My argument is not about fear. I am not saying that I need a gun but
rather I need my rights to not be infringed, gun ownership being one
of them. If you want to talk about fear how about the fear of guns

There is nothing in the Constitution that gives you that "right."

feel they need to regulate a gun instead of being concerned for the
people killed. Gun control is in response to people being afraid of
other citizens owning guns. Thats a huge irrational fear if you ask
me. People do break into homes, murder and rape others. Some of
these may be prevented by private gun ownership but none of them will
be stopped by gun control laws. You are so afraid of people owning
guns that you want to take away their ability to protect themselves
and thier right to own something that isn't hurting anyone.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth. Please show me where I
support banning guns.

You are blinded by your fear and willing to give up everything in that
condition because of it.

You're the fearful one... unwilling to look at the facts.




--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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My argument is not about fear. I am not saying that I need a gun but
rather I need my rights to not be infringed, gun ownership being one
of them. If you want to talk about fear how about the fear of guns

There is nothing in the Constitution that gives you that "right."

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitut...ml#amendmentii
Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed.

one more time to be dramatic: the right of the people to keep and
bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Seems pretty clear to me.

feel they need to regulate a gun instead of being concerned for the
people killed. Gun control is in response to people being afraid of
other citizens owning guns. Thats a huge irrational fear if you ask
me. People do break into homes, murder and rape others. Some of
these may be prevented by private gun ownership but none of them will
be stopped by gun control laws. You are so afraid of people owning
guns that you want to take away their ability to protect themselves
and thier right to own something that isn't hurting anyone.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth. Please show me where I
support banning guns.


I didn't say that at all. I didn't mention you or banning guns at
all. Can you read?


You are blinded by your fear and willing to give up everything in that
condition because of it.

You're the fearful one... unwilling to look at the facts.

What facts? You have stated none but only your opinions. You have
shown no imperical evidence that stricter gun control laws will
prevent any crime only what you, a non-expert, think.