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In article . com,
Bill wrote:
Do you honestly think that murder only started when guns were
invented? there has been violent crime since the begining of time.
It has always been the fault of the person committing the crime. When
the first caveman clubbed another with a rock should they have banned
all rocks because they can be used to kill more people than with just
bare hands? people will always find a way to hurt other people and
those that want to use a gun will whether the gun is legal or not.
Banning handguns will not stop murders from using them it wont stop
any crime at all as seen in evidence by states that have bans on
handguns with higher crime rates.

Do you honestly think that there is no relationship between the
invention of a gun and mass killings?



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In article .com,
Bill wrote:
Do you honestly believe that a man with a gun, intent on killing
multiples is no more dangerous that a man with a knife or club?

I believe that a man intent on killing someone does not give a ****
about the laws in place saying he can't use a gun.

EXACTLY. Therefore, if one limits his access to guns, making them
difficult to get, having to jump through hoops to get them, then he
will be less likely to use one to kill 33 people.




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In article .com,
Bill wrote:
Guns don't kill people, people do? How many people do you think he would
have killed if he tried to use two knives, instead of two guns? Or two
clubs, or two brass knuckles? Or two pairs of scissors? Staple guns?
Machetes?

Jim

Or fertilizer and gasoline. 168 Timothy McVeigh.

Which is now much more tightly regulated, apparently. No so with guns.



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In article om,
Bill wrote:
or cars 43,443 in 2005 alone

Correct, however, gun violence is intentional. Crashing a car isn't.



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In article ,
katy wrote:

Yeah, to hell with privacy. We don't need it.


We laready had adequate privacy laws in effect...it was overkill and
unnecessary...not cost effective and has made the health care industry
even more seamped in administration costs than before...

BS totally. Personal information is all over the place, exposing
millions to abuse.


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EXACTLY. Therefore, if one limits his access to guns, making them
difficult to get, having to jump through hoops to get them, then he
will be less likely to use one to kill 33 people.

He did jump through hoops. He didn't go to the store that day and buy
the guns, he had them for several weeks.

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Do you honestly think that there is no relationship between the
invention of a gun and mass killings?

No. A gun is a tool. I think there is a relationship between the
way our society treats people and mass killings. I think that
treating people like they are supposed to be taken care of by the
gov't instead of holding them responsible for anything really warps
peoples minds into thinking they are trapped and then they loose it.
Some people go on stress leave and a few go out and kill people. More
laws is not going to change that.

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Which is now much more tightly regulated, apparently. No so with guns.

Do you honestly believe that guns are not tightly regulated? Do you
really think that they are just handing them out for a few bucks at
the local store with no checks or anything? They are very regulated
but the system isn't perfect. We don't need to add more regulations
to try and enforce. We need to enforce the ones we already have. We
need to make the system we have work the way it is intended not add
more crap to the pile and hope that works better. Our gov't is not
really capable of doing the things it says it is doing, stop thinking
that adding more stuff will make it better.

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"Bill" wrote in message
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EXACTLY. Therefore, if one limits his access to guns, making them
difficult to get, having to jump through hoops to get them, then he
will be less likely to use one to kill 33 people.

He did jump through hoops. He didn't go to the store that day and buy
the guns, he had them for several weeks.



And society and the laws we have are inadequate. But, that doesn't matter
right? The more guns the better, according to you.

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"Bill" wrote in message
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Do you honestly think that there is no relationship between the
invention of a gun and mass killings?

No. A gun is a tool. I think there is a relationship between the
way our society treats people and mass killings. I think that
treating people like they are supposed to be taken care of by the
gov't instead of holding them responsible for anything really warps
peoples minds into thinking they are trapped and then they loose it.
Some people go on stress leave and a few go out and kill people. More
laws is not going to change that.



A gun is not a tool in a normal modern society. It's an aberation and should
be at best exceptional, reserved for only those worthy of owning them. Laws
have made awesome changes and will continue to do so.

Duhh... there's a relationship between the way our society treats people and
mass killings. Can you possibly say something more obvious.

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