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Guns don't kill people, people do? How many people do you think he would
have killed if he tried to use two knives, instead of two guns? Or two
clubs, or two brass knuckles? Or two pairs of scissors? Staple guns?
Machetes?

Jim

Or fertilizer and gasoline. 168 Timothy McVeigh.

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YES!!!!!
And if you were holding the door to stop him entering, he could not
have shot you through that door.

Do you honestly think that murder only started when guns were
invented? there has been violent crime since the begining of time.
It has always been the fault of the person committing the crime. When
the first caveman clubbed another with a rock should they have banned
all rocks because they can be used to kill more people than with just
bare hands? people will always find a way to hurt other people and
those that want to use a gun will whether the gun is legal or not.
Banning handguns will not stop murders from using them it wont stop
any crime at all as seen in evidence by states that have bans on
handguns with higher crime rates.

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or cars 43,443 in 2005 alone

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Do you honestly believe that a man with a gun, intent on killing
multiples is no more dangerous that a man with a knife or club?

I believe that a man intent on killing someone does not give a ****
about the laws in place saying he can't use a gun.

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OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:57:43 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:


Becasue the liberals passed the HIPPA (Hralth Insurance Portability and
Protection Act) laaws which disallow any release of medical information
if not specifically permitted by the patient...to release medical
information without the express permission of the subject is a breach of
privacy under this act and is prosecutable...hey...the libs wrote
it...talk to them...kid should have been in an institution...libs got
rid of those too so the mentally ill could mainstream with the rest of
society...

OK, so you have a set of loose gun control regulations which will
allow mentally unstable people to purchase a pistol because their
illness is only their affair.
Great!

Yep - just like Victoria (Aus) with privacy laws that effectively prevented a
known AIDS patient's records being released to the cops while he went about
screwing his partners. What's the tally of infected men - over 100?

Difference is, he didn't use a gun and they don't die straight away. They're
all going to cost a ****load before they do, tho.

Privacy laws. Unintended consequences. Gun checks. Privacy laws. Unintended
consequences. Your solution is..... ?

PDW

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You didn't answer my question.

Because your question is completely irrelevant to my argument. Of
course it is harder to kill someone with a club or a knife but making
guns illegal is not any solution to this problem. Murder is already
illegal, we all know this. Obtaining firearm illegally is still
possible, we know this as well. If someone wants to murder a bunch of
people there will always be a way for them to do that. writing it
down on paper that they are not supposed to have that gun they are
shooting people with does nothing. In imperial Japan swords were
banned to stop the samurai. So they started illegally carrying cane
swords. Crime rates still went up people still broke the law. The
sword ban was less for the protection of the people and more for the
government to claim more control over the people. more control = more
money. Always has. Now its the same with guns. Look at the people
that historically have banned guns. The big ones to me are Hitler,
Stalin, Polpot, and Mussolini. I don't want to be in the same
category as them. I Want the individual to be held responsible not
everyone that happens to enjoy guns and doesn't harm others with them.

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
katy wrote:

It's a bummer when those pesky facts just pop out of nowhere. g


The reality is that the former Bush adminsitration called for a stufdy
to lessen the costs of health care by systemizing an el;ectronic billing
system for insurance companies so that only one code book and one set of
diagnosis values would be used, thus streamlinging the medical insurance
business. In comes the bureaucrats, saying "Ah! but what about
privacy???" Need we remind you that those people were Democrats? Like I
said, I have a very close friend, a well known health care lobbyist, who
worked in the HEW Dept during the Reagan years who was in on the
initiative...What started out as a cost cutting effort turned into a
fisco...it's all there in the facts...just Google Hisotry of HIPAA....


Yeah, to hell with privacy. We don't need it.


We laready had adequate privacy laws in effect...it was overkill and
unnecessary...not cost effective and has made the health care industry
even more seamped in administration costs than before...

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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 18 Apr 2007 10:33:10 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

Halliburton

Ah, and Ganz chants his magic mantra and all-purpose reply again.

So, you think it's ok to rip off the American taxpayer. Got it.


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In article , Martin Baxter wrote:
You guys, (Max, Katy, Dave) begin to sound somewhat paranoid. You chant
"Liberal" about every perceived problem, using the term in like it was
the most vile depraved thing a human could be. The word you should be
chanting is "Politician", in the grand scheme of things there really
isn't that huge of range from your mainstream political left to
mainstream political right. The common thread to all legislation is
politicians and their machinations, which far too often are driven by
greed, enough money can make most of them sit on whichever side of the
fence pleases the funds provider.

Yup... paranoid. Scary paranoid actually.

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In article ,
JimC wrote:
Guns don't kill people, people do? How many people do you think he would
have killed if he tried to use two knives, instead of two guns? Or two
clubs, or two brass knuckles? Or two pairs of scissors? Staple guns?
Machetes?

Even using a car or a Mac, he would have been pretty limited. g

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