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In article t,
Maxprop wrote:
Not that I'm using my last experience at a gun show to make the claim
that this is common place, but I had three dealers offer to sell me a
Dan Wesson without a waiting period.

Unless you possess a permit to own/carry a handgun, you should have turned
them in. I would have.

You shouldn't jay walk. Someone might turn you in.

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In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
a knee-jerk reaction by liberals to insure protection of medical privacy,

Is it always the liberals' fault or do you just like to rant?

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In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
OK, so you have a set of loose gun control regulations which will
allow mentally unstable people to purchase a pistol because their
illness is only their affair.
Great!

That pretty well sums it up. Of course it's wrong, but it's the way our
government works. But your professed alternative is completely without
merit as well. How would you expect our seriously-flawed government to do a
gun-grab or gun control correctly? Your faith in our government is not
shared by most Americans.

Therefore, according to the right-wing agenda, do nothing. Pretty much
sums up the previous Congress and the Administration.

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In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
For a liberal, passing a new law invokes a warm and fuzzy feeling, whether
the law is effective or not.
For a libertarian, passing a law that 1) won't affect anything or 2) won't
be enforced, is meaningless and not worth the time or trouble.

For a conservative, not doing anything constructive or even trying
invokes a warm and fuzzy feeling that you can help your big money, no
civic interest friends.

It's all about feelings with liberals. It's all about reality with
libertarians.


It's all about graft and backdoor deals with conservatives.

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In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
Ah, the liberals. Ok, so then what you're really saying is that the
Federal law is toothless.

Most laws are, Jon. And the ones with teeth are seldom enforced. Our
"great" government in action.

Most laws? Oh come on.

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In article ,
Jeff wrote:
The Privacy and Security provisions of HIPPA were passed by a
Republican Congress and signed by a Republican President.

And are you seriously saying that the NRA (or anyone else) would
support a law that encouraged a psychiatrist to put a note in your FBI
file that you're being treated for depression and therefore cannot be
trusted?

It's a bummer when those pesky facts just pop out of nowhere. g


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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
Jeff wrote:

The Privacy and Security provisions of HIPPA were passed by a
Republican Congress and signed by a Republican President.

And are you seriously saying that the NRA (or anyone else) would
support a law that encouraged a psychiatrist to put a note in your FBI
file that you're being treated for depression and therefore cannot be
trusted?


It's a bummer when those pesky facts just pop out of nowhere. g


The reality is that the former Bush adminsitration called for a stufdy
to lessen the costs of health care by systemizing an el;ectronic billing
system for insurance companies so that only one code book and one set of
diagnosis values would be used, thus streamlinging the medical insurance
business. In comes the bureaucrats, saying "Ah! but what about
privacy???" Need we remind you that those people were Democrats? Like I
said, I have a very close friend, a well known health care lobbyist, who
worked in the HEW Dept during the Reagan years who was in on the
initiative...What started out as a cost cutting effort turned into a
fisco...it's all there in the facts...just Google Hisotry of HIPAA....

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
katy wrote:

See previous list of big money interests.


And there are just as many big money interests funded by liberals to
lobby for their side of things. It's only bad when it's not your side,
right?


Care to name them? Nope... didn't think so. I don't think there are
many that can compete with the industries I mentioned.


Anti-Gun Corporations/Corporate Heads

The following listing includes the most prominent national corporations
that have lent their corporate support to gun control initiatives or
taken position supporting gun control.

A & M Records
Al Cafaro, Chrm. & CEO
595 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10022
(212) 826-0477
www.amrecords.com
Record Production, Entertainment

American Century Companies
James E. Stowers, CEO
4500 Main St., 4th Floor
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 531-5575
www.americancentury.com
Mutual Fund & Stock Investment Company on NYSE

American Multi Cinemas Entertainment, Inc.
Stanley H. Durwood, Co-Chairman, CEOPeter C. Brown, President, CFO
106 West 14th Street, #1700
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 221-4000
www.amctheaters.com
Movie Theater Company

Argosy Casino
H. Steven Norton, President, CEO
777 N.W. Argosy Parkway
Riverside, MO 64150
(816) 746-7711
www.argosycasinos.com/
Gambling Casino Company

Ben & Jerry`s Homemade, Inc.
Bennett R. Cohen Chrm. & CEO
Rte. 100, Box 240
Waterbury, VT 05676
(802) 244-5641
www.benjerry.com
Ice cream and frozen yogurt

BJC Health Systems
Fred L. Brown, President & CEO
4444 Forest Park Ave.
St. Louis, MO 63108
(314) 747-9322
www.bjc.org/
Healthcare Company

Blue Cross Blue Shield - Kansas City
John P. Mascotte, President
P.O. Box 419169
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 395-2222
Healthcare Company

Brooks Investments-Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks
45 Chesterfield Lakes Road
Chesterfield, MO 63005
Investment Company

Carter Hawley Hale Stores, Inc.
Philip M. Hawley, Chrm. & CEO
444 South Flower Street
Los Angeles, CA 90071
(213) 620-0150
Retail clothing and accessories stores

Crown Central Petroleum Corp.
Henry A. Rosenberg, Jr.
One North Central Street Box 1168
Baltimore, MD 21203
(301) 539-7400
Refiners and marketers of petroleum products, convenience stores

Development Specialists - Chicago
70 W. Madison Street, #2300
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 263-4141

Earthgrains - St. Louis
8400 Maryland Ave.
St. Louis, MO 63105
(314) 259-7000
www.ironkids.com/Pages/Earthgrains.html
National Bread Company

General American - St. Louis
Richard A. Liddy, CEO
P.O. Box 396
St. Louis, MO 63166
(314) 843-8700
www.genam.com
Life Insurance

Hallmark Cards
Irvine O. Hockaday, President & CEO
P.O. Box 418307
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 274-5111
www.hallmark.com
Greeting Card Company


Health Midwest
2316 East Meyer Boulevard
Kansas City, MO 64132
(816) 751-3000
www.healthmidwest.org
National Healthcare Company



ICN Biomedicals
Adam Jerney, Chrm. & CEO
3300 Hyland Avenue
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
(714) 545-0113
www.icnbiomed.com
Pharmaceutical products

James B.Nutter Co. - Kansas City
James B.Nutter
4153 Broadway
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 531-2345
Investment Banker

Kansas City Chiefs
Lamar Hunt, Owner
One Arrowhead Drive
Kansas City, MO 64129
(816) 924-9300
www.kcchiefs.com
Pro Football Team

Kansas City Royals
David Glass, CEO
P.O. Box 419969
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 921-8000
www.kcroyals.com
Pro Baseball Team

Kenneth Cole
152 W. 57th Street
New York, NY 10019
(800) 536-2653
www.kennethcole.com
Clothing retailer

Lamar Advertising Company
Lamar Outdoor Advertising
5551 Corporate Boulevard, Suite 2-A
Baton Rouge, LA 70808
P. O. Box 66338
Baton Rouge, LA 70896
(225) 926-1000
Fax (225) 926-1005
www.lamar.com


Levi Strauss & Co.
Robert D. Haas, Chairman
Philip Marineau, CEO
Peter A. Jacobi, President and COO
1155 Battery St.
San Francisco, CA 94111
(415) 501-6000
FAX (415) 501-3939
www.levistrauss.com
Clothing

Mallinckrodt, Inc. - St. Louis
C. Ray Holman, President & CEO
675 McDonnell Blvd, Box 5840
St. Louis, MO 63134
(314) 654-2000
www.mallinckrodt.com
Clothing Starch Company

Maritz, Inc. - St. Louis
William E. Maritz, Chairman & CEO
1375 N. Highway Drive
Fenton, MO 63099
(314) 827-4000
www.maritz.com
Corporate Travel & Research Company

Michael Douglas Foundation
3550 Wilshire
Los Angele, CA 90010

MNC Financial, Inc.
Alfred Lerner, Chrm.
Ten Light Street Box 987
Baltimore, MD 21203
(301) 244-5000
Banking, financial services

Sara Lee Corporation
Sara Lee Foundation
Three First National Plaza
Chicago, IL 60602-4260
Phone: 312-726-2600
www.saralee.com
Fax: 312-726-3712

Schnucks Markets
Craig D. Schnuck
11420 Lackland Road
St. Louis, MO 63146
(314) 994-9900
www.schnucks.com
Grocery Stores

Silver Dollar City
Peter Herschend
One Corporate Drive
Branson, MO 65616
800 475-9370
www.silverdollarcity.com
Amusement Parks

Site Oil Company - St. Louis
Alvin J. Siteman, President
50 S. Bemiston
St. Louis, MO 63105
(314) 725-4321
Oil Company

Southland Corporation
Masatoshi Ito, Chrm.
2711 North Haskell Avenue
Dallas, TX 75221
www.7-eleven.com
Convenience stores

Southwestern Bell Telephone- St. Louis
One Bell Center
St. Louis, MO 63101
(314) 235-9800
www.swbell.com
Telecommunications Firm

Sport & Health, Inc.
Don Konz, CEO
1800 Old Meadow Rd.
McLean, Virginia 22102
(703) 556-6556
www.sportandhealth.com
Health clubs and fitness centers

Sprint Corp PAC
William T. Esrey, Chrm., Pres. & CEO 2330 Shawnee Mission Parkway
Westwood, KS 66205
913 624-3000
www.sprint.com
Telecommunicaitons Firm

SSM Health System - St. Louis
477 N. Lindbergh
St. Louis, MO 63141
(314) 994-7800
Healthcare Company

St. Louis Cardinals
William DeWitt Jr., Controlling Owner
250 Stadium Plaza
St. Louis, MO 63102
(314) 421-3263
Pro Baseball Team

St. Louis Rams
Georgia Frontiere , Owner
One Rams Way
Earth City, MO 63045
(314) 982-7267
www.stlouisrams.com
Pro Football Team

St. Louis University
Rev. Lawrence Biondi, President
221 N. Grand Blvd.
St. Louis, MO 63103
(314) 977-2222
www.slu.edu
Private Catholic University

Stoneyfield Farms Yogurt
Mr. Gary Hirshberg, CEO
10 Burton Drive
Londonderry, NH 03053
(603) 437-7594
Yogurt

Sverdrup Corp.
Richard E. Beumer,
Chairman & CEO
13723 Riverport Drive
Maryland Heights, MO 63043
(314) 436-7600
www.sverdrup.com
Engineering Firm

Time Warner Inc.
Gerald M. Levin, Chrm. & CEO
75 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10019
(212) 484-8000
www.pathfinder.com/corp/
Publishing, film and music recordings

TMP Worldwide/Monster.Com
Andrew McKelvey, CEO
1633 Broadway, 33rd Fl.
New York, NY 10019
Phone: 212-977-4200
Fax: 212-956-2142
www.tmpw.com
www.monster.com
online employment service

Unity Health - St. Louis
1650 Des Peres Road #301
St. Louis, MO 63131
(314) 909-3300
www.smhs.com/unityheath.html
Healthcare Company

Working Assets
Peter Barnes, Founder
701 Montgomery Street
San Francisco, California 94111
(415) 788-0777
www.workingassets.com
Long distance telephone service

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Martin Baxter wrote:
Maxprop wrote:. Many small


Just another isolated example of a government that is broken and no fix in
sight. And you want this government to control the proliferation of guns.
LOL.


HIPPA was enacted Aug. 1996, you've had a Replican House, Senate and
President for something over half the time the Act has been in effect.
If it's so bad why hasn't it been repealled or amended?

Cheers
Marty

Becasue the hue and cry of the liverals over the right of privacy (which
existed prior to HIPPA) makes it a deadlocked issue...passing it was a
concession to get through the federal ID program for diagnosis and
billing, which went from being a money saving proposal to becoming a
bugaboo under the volumes of procedure needed to run the HIPPA program...

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Hate to tell you, but he probably had mental problems. Are you
advocating locking those people up before they do anything?

That is exactly what the British Government is planning to do.
I sincerely hope thay can not get this scheme through Parliament.